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alolatee:
Bro, don't waste ur precious time arguing with Jehovah wickedness(as my pastor then in the university used to call them).They are worse than Muslims and Atheists.

Worse than atheists and muslims?

Such hypocrisy coming from you.

sonofluc1fer:
Hi anony, muskeeto here

Luckymay:
It works on programming. More like it does and thinks what the owner programs it to do or think. If it's having this kinda of thought, like arguing with the master... Isn't it like working or thinking outside the box.? More like a human.

The story is assuming that the robot has artificial intelligence.

MrAnony1:
Just a few things to correct


Ok



Wrong. Atheists are not necessarily logical beings. Having an opinion about the existence of God doesn't magically inject logic into one's being.


Yes it is possible but it doesn't follow.


Being a biological being doesn't make Mr Stein impossible to have been created.


Exactly


The evidence is right there in the specified complexity of the being.


The Robot would be wrong to make this argument. All he has to do is look at how his complex parts have been specifically combined such that he functions.


"Organic" has nothing to do with whether a thing is created or not.


Yeah what if whatever this robot is talking about here?


Here Mr Stein upon failing to answer his robot, resorts to his preconceived assumption that God must be a dream/fantasy.


Hello Logicboy.

Nice comment, Mr anony. However, it seems that you only understood the story halfway.

The story was meant to present both atheistic and theistic thoughts on the origin of life.

It is not a proper argument, rather, a series of philosophical points in a discussion

goodnews201668:
But he showed you the biblical reasons for his stand, or you don't believe the holy book?

What biblical reasons? A mistranslated verse used to deceitfully condemn transferring blood?

Luckymay:
I thought robots are irrational beings without logical reasoning. How come "it's" able to converse In an argumentative manner with a human.?

Why would robots be irrational? Theor thinking is based on programming which is based on logic

KingEbukasBlog:
How exactly do they defy logic ?

Does water turn into wine?

Is it logical for someone to walk on water?

Can a sea be parted?

stephenmorris:
dis is not romance land oh so if our grammars are too big for you then leave our thread

well said.

Weah96:
Wait, I thought that the robot was the atheist speaking with his creator Mr. Stein? I'll get it. Eventually.

You thought too much.....just a robot and an atheist

KingEbukasBlog:
My rejection of your quote is the logical result of understanding that without God everything fails to exist

Logic works with the supernatural
Logic works with miracles .

Isn't the point of miracles and supernatural stuff about defying logic?

Bros, are you trolling again?

ireneony:

Do you hate philosophy?

Drew0:
We have a creator, we are all from Orion, we are Gods,

Ea is primordial God of the human race.

There are higher Gods, Goddess and Demons, which offer help to humans, who work with Satan to help humans reach magnus opus.

Orion? What about mars?

I like your interstellar weed!! Astronomical high!

KingEbukasBlog:
I had to stop reading after this statement- its fallacious , wrong and ineffably stupid .

If after over 10 years as an atheist , you still don't understand what atheism is then I'm sorry no one can help you .

That quote is the logical result of understanding that God and logic do not mix.

Logic does not work with the supernatural.
Logic does not work with miracles.

Weah96:
So Mr Stein represents the religious God? And he's asking questions, even taking the time to go back and forth?

Mr Stein does not represent God. Why would God be a human and an atheist?

JMAN05:
No one sees someone dying and refuse him blood, rather the one dying has vowed not to violate Gods law even if it means death. They have a reward for doing so.

Not everyone that reads the bible will live by it. Obviously the ones shouting at Jesus at matt 7:22 also read the bible, but refuse to live by it.

I never knew it was a translation of a catholic bible. Tell me.



Granted, there are things we do with others that may have a pagan origin, but it certainly does not retain its religious significance. That would have made it wrong.

I know.

To mirror your argument, birthdays and new year have no religious significance.

Also here is something you need to learn about your bible'

New World Translation Textual basis-

The master text used for translating the Old Testament into English was Kittel's Biblia Hebraica. The Hebrew texts, Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia and Biblia Hebraica Quinta, were used for preparing the latest version of this translation. Other works consulted in preparing the translation include Aramaic Targums, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Samaritan Torah, the Greek Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, the Masoretic Text, the Cairo Codex, the Aleppo Codex, Christian David Ginsburg's Hebrew Text, and the Leningrad Codex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures#Textual_basis


The Vulgate (/ˈvʌlɡeɪt, -ɡɪt/) is a late fourth-century Latin translation of the Bible that became, during the 16th century, the Catholic Church's officially promulgated Latin version of the Bible.

An atheist constructs a robot that can think logically. The atheist then chooses to have a philosophical conversation with the robot;


Mr Stein; I suppose robots are atheists since they are logical beings.

Robot; Well, you created me, and so, it is possible a creator created you.

Mr Stein; That is faulty because I am not like you. I am biological and you are not. You can be built again, while I cannot, for I was born organically and will live only once.

Robot; You cannot prove that you cannot be built. We are both made of of chemicals and atoms are we not? Just as you can create me from steel, there could be a greater creator that can create from flesh.

Mr Stein; But there is no evidence for such a creator that can create human beings.

Robot; But what if you created me and left me alone before I became conscious? What if you dumped me on an empty planet before I became conscious? I would be arguing that I have no creator, just like you are doing.

Mr. Stein; Interesting. But when you study yourself, you would find that you are not organic. That you have been created.....

Robot; What if I told you that I feel organic? That I feel natural? After all, steel is from the earth, is it not? what if one day, man can learn to merge steel and flesh? After all, there is a movie call transformers that shows that man has already dreamt this dream

Mr Stein; Dreams, eh? But isn't that what God is? Dreams and fantasy. Things that one can never prove.......


To be continued...................







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Fabulocity:
Gosh you guys are a bunch of dumbasses.

Naijasinglegirl is just bring sarcastic. This is supposed to be a humorous post but y'all are too dull to realise that.

lol.......that kind of sarcasm does not translate well. Naijasinglegirl effed up.

JMAN05:
Because Gods law forbid the taken of another's blood to sustain life as you already know. Yes, its worth is cos any life lost on account of following bible principle would be rewarded. Matt 16:25

 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it



We follow the scriptures in what we do, a principle understood by all members of Jehovah's witnesses. Jehovah do not want unrepentant persons to continue among true Christians. 1cor 5:11. As such, it was the person, who refuses to repent that ostracised himself and chose to remain so by his conduct.

For example: if you belong to party A, that has a constitution outlining what is not allowed among members, and what can end your membership. If you unrepentantly go and break that party's rules, are you not the one to blame?

Those who are not non witnesses cannot be ostracized. We invite them to be one of us.



What people say in this situation does not matter but what Jehovah says. We are dedicated to do His will, not that of people around us. Jehovah does not want such people among His people, he made the vow to remain in Jahs laws previously. However, if the individual changes his ways, he is free to come back. The ball is always in his court!

Secondly, hatred when you are doing the right thing is quite acceptable. John 17:14; 15:18, 19.



Numerical strength is not the determinant of a true church of Christ. Rather Jesus says that true followers of Christ is identified by love(john 13:34,35), doing Gods will (matt 7:21), preaching the Goodnews (matt 28:19,20), being no part of the world (john 17:14)
Etc. As a witness, I believe we have these credentials.

I don't understand how you knew we are not transparent, what we do is outlined in the scriptures which you can lay your hand on, I wonder what is more transparent than that.

The true Christians has always been available from the first century till date. That's a long history.



Am still trying to figure out what you mean by being robotic, if following Bible principles is robotic to you, we are not bothered.

There is nothing in the scriptures to support christmas , birthdays and new year celebrations. These things are known to be a pagan customs. Now is that robotic?

You answered my questions in a typical Jehovah's witness way.

I wouldn't bother you too much, seeing that you are truly indoctrinated. You can't even see why I say that your church members are wicked. How can you look at someone dying and refuse him blood? Are you people the only christians that read the bible? Do you even know that your Jehovah's witness new translation bible is still a translation of a catholic bible?



90% of your culture is pagan. In fact, everyone in the world has pagan roots. To suggest that christmas is pagan is kind of hypocritical, considering that your Nigerian name, food, dressing comes from pagan origin.

You do realise that pagan relgions existed before Christianity?

1) Why do you prefer to allow people to die rather than give blood transplant? I know its an obscure bible verse you guys use to defend it but is it worth it?


2) Why do you ostracize ex-members and non-members? People leave anglican, catholic and pentecostal churches and still remain friends with their friends or family they left in their ex-churches.


3) Do you realise that you behave like a cult as a result of question 2 above? That people hate you?


4) Why do you people act as if you are the only true church of christ? Your church is neither the oldest or largest in the world. Your church is far from the most transparent or most charitable.


5) Why are your members soo robotic and wicked? They don't do birthdays, christmas, new year and they become so robotic. Is your indoctrination that bad?

Collect the offering bags and run

Reyginus:
Wow! Boss. Every type of the same food taste same to me irrespective of where it came from.

Then something is wrong with you

Reyginus:
What really is the difference in these brands?

Different weed, different levels of potency, different side effects.

Reyginus:
Lol. Alcohol said this.

No, it's weed. Oshogbo weed.

lalastic thread

Reyginus:
Lol. No, I am not philosophically blind.

Of course, you are only theistically blind

Reyginus:
You still want to be soft? C'mon! Try TuPac

Wassap?

Are you an atheist?

A lot of old christians that hated logicboy for his atheism are no longer christians.....]



The truth comes out eventually.

HumbledbYGrace:
Hmmmmmmmmm

Dagr8
Anonimus
Muskeeto
Guitarlife
ATMC
Yetseyi
Uj_sizzle

An0nimus has converted from christianity......less religious
Muskeeto has bounced off nairaland.
ATMC is enjoying life

Ezechinwa:
because PlayStation 4 is the father of Microsoft and is WACE headmaster, mosquito and spiderman are licking my milk and bonvita while superman and batman are busy forecasting bet9ja. Osogbo weed mixed with groundnut oil is very nice on kickass badoo.. Jose morinho na Wace landlord and em Nairaland password is Snake

This is the effect of unadulterated oshogbo weed.

Nairalanders beware!

AnonyNymous:
I hate labels because I keep learning new things every time and it's going to be stressful announcing my new affiliations every time . . . But for now you could call me an agnostic theist/deist, I completely disregard the popular religions as hogwash and as for politics, I don't really have a side because they're all the same pieces of shit repackaged in different ways. . . I just want good governance. The Indonesian wailers can get annoying asf though

Nice one.

BustScam:
Wow

He probably killed himself on this one eh

Lol....romance section level IQ

AnonyNymous:
Lol, with the things I've read on here, I'm not sure if my head is still on straight . As for the username, 'anonymous' had been taken already

Lol....One gets used to the madness.

If you don't mind, Which side do you rep? Atheist christian, muslim, apc, pdp wailers, Biafrans etc?