Komekn....for the first time in a long time i agree wit u....icon79 got dis one totally wrong....

komekn:


This is the prejudice that baffles me.

You, sir make the negative demarcation which is exactly the same sentiments which TRIBALISM is anchored upon. In my opinion you have lost your way.

Your place of birth is not what defines you.

What you are saying effectively is that Nigerians born outside of Nigeria are simply LESS NIGERIAN. That's TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

This is the same bigoted and prejudiced sentiment that made people in Lagos to come against other Nigerian who some are third generation born in Lagos to being excluded from political office in Lagos state claiming that they are not indigenous to Lagos state.

This is so RETROGRESSIVE and the very kind iof negative counter productive mentality that has stifled development and enthroned mediocrity and birthed our FANTASTIC CORRUPTION in our beloved country Nigeria.

Your sentiment would have excluded Obama an African by parentage from becoming President of the USA.

Because l was born.in the UK I am according to you less Nigerian.

I disagree with you completely without restraint and apology.

Icon4s:


Tell me why I would not Love this man called Rohr.

They called him "manager".. nd d guy worth d title die

I for one dnt know d real issues manu has with omidiji so i wont b defending him like my life depends on it.... Dats why we keep having insults nd mean words flying up nd down in this forum... Just say wat u want nd believe, nd back down... Ur point is not worth d insult, no mata how true u believe it to be

The point of an intellectual argumentative discussion is to convince the oda person .. but if d oda person is not even listening to d facts on ground because he has made up his mind den d whole thing becomes more confrontational.... Pls guys lets drop this lateef argument ... E dn do... Rohr is corrupt , we gree, dats y he did take kayode nd d ajagun,instead he carry impotent strikers.... manu is corrupt, dats y omidiji was dropped, we agree, case closed... No need for plenty banter...

Ndidi to real madrid

even igboun has 6 caps...make sodje go siddon one place....
local coach this local coach that...let us be sincere to ourselves, how many local coaches have been 100% professional in their dealings ....whoever delivers should be given d job..weda foreign local or alien...i dnt care, until local coaches can prove demselves in the capacity they claim to be qualified for, they should just negudem....as amuneke dn achieve small thing for tanzania and also in d u-17 level , i wont be surprised if he succeeds rohr, dats how it should be...not someone claiming ryt becos they are nigerian ex internationals....wat has sodje done to improve nigerian football??...weda na grassroot or treetop??to criticize just de hungry am abeg

april fool with quote/source .....m impressed

Curtisaxel7:
Italian giants AC Milan have agreed terms on a shock swoop on Leicester's Kelechi Iheanacho. The Rossoneri are currently short of options to lead their attack following the departure of Argentine hitman Gonzalo Higuain to Chelsea of England. Financial details of the deal are yet to be fully disclosed to the public at press time, but according to Italian journal Gazetta dello sport reports, both club sides have agreed on a deal and personal terms are currently being ironed out with the player's representatives. The big lipped forward has scored only once this season across all competitions.

- Biannosti Sporti journale de Italia.

april fool at dis age

Let us allow rohr continue his job... He myt not be a guardiola but he is doing very well considering d talents at his disposal.. (some of us keep reiterating the fact dat we have mostly average players at best)... Nd given d way nff nd nigerian corruption tends to affect team sheet nd player callups... This guy has done fairly well... We cannot complain abt more dan 2 players included per list... As compared to before now wen d list will contain players who's clip u cant even find on youtube ..or even wikipedia... So lets chill.

Rohr's managerial period with super eagles in numbers.
17games played.
3 games lost. ...17.5%
3 games drawn...17.5%
11 games won. .. 65%
.. pls tell me how these stats are bad... Cos some of us here are constantly saying he isnt fit to coach d team...
During his tenure we have qualified for d 2 major tournaments with atleast a game to spare... We missed out on d last 2 afcons... Qualified for d 2014 world cup at d last min... Nd yet some ppl make it sound like we had d best team wen rohr took over...

Lets realise dat even d best players have quiet games sometimes.. wer was ronaldo in d ucl first leg against atm.. wer was griezmann in d second leg against juve...so it can happen to anyone... So having a quiet game doesnt take anytim from d fact dat he is an immense talent..

Peace.

Rohr is a bad coach . Rohr is a terrible coach .. our style of play dis... Our style of play that .. abeg make una bring d statistics of d previous coaches nd deir selection history make we compare... Cos most ppl here are just jumping on d mata like stew on white rice.
We talk like we have awesome players somewer dat will come into d team nd turn our gameplay to barca's...

Barca in d same group with 3 english teams... This is just delicious... M sure it will become clear wat league is superior

Teeklef:

Your opinion!!! Not proven sis...... Before his arrival they have won 9 champions league, so what do you mean by saying they are not a great team before his arrival? Are you telling me that he's the greatest player in the history of Madrid cause ayam not understanding ooo.

Bros u still try understand her point... Great team by history, but at d time cr7 joined us at madrid we neva win ucl in 7years... We neva win copa del rey in over 16 years
We were in a rot. Nd he was d player dat lifted us to a status befitting our history... So instead of going bck nd forth just check online... D facts are there.. i get am b4 no b property

Lucque:
Just stumbled on this on ig... I

If these stats are true, nd m sure they are... Den ders rili a problem with our administration .. if u have a technical player nd u push dem away by saying they cant play ur physical football... Physical footbal dat has not been gud enof to help us pass group stage of d womens world cup den der is problem o... Big problem.. Nigerians need to speak up nd let their voices be heard

Just stumbled on this on ig... I

andrew444:


Bros calm down and enjoy the talent stop the dissing for crying out loud

It's people like you that are insulting and dissing iheanacho now,so please calm down ,don't come out of your ghost mode and look for trouble

Peace

Pls only quote me if u understand what i said... Or if u can quote one instance where i insulted iheanacho... Until den.. an apology would be proper

Just watched that chukwueze vs madrid video.... If anyone comes to say anytin abt it being too early to call him a world class talent.... Den dat person needs schooling... With beta cane... Abeg make sombody gimme the appropriate meme

Danielnino00:
For the record,I never compared Chukwueze to Mpabbe...Those accusing me of doing so can show me proof where I said so... And I repeat that Chukwueze with his current form can make PSG team... Of course we aren't certain of what the future holds for him.. but there's no denying that he is in form.. certainly among the hottest talents in Spain right now... With constant outstanding performance he will be up there among the best in a few years...

All this talk of Chukwueze not making the first eleven of this club or that club us is rubbish... If you are good,the world will notice you.. Three years ago,when Ekong was playing in lowly Norwegian league who would have thought that he would one day be a starter in the serieA? When Iheanacho was playing for Nigeria's youth team,how many people expected him to command a starting shirt in a star studded man city team? Uzoho was playing in the Spanish third division last season and he is in the second division this season..whom knows where he will be in a few years?

My point is,we shouldn't underrate our talents that easily. they have the potential to be world class players...
The west constantly hype their own,so why shouldn't we do the same?

If Chukwueze was European, he'd be getting wave reviews week in week out...

spoken like a true elder

some certain people are just naturally annoying...when he was getting rave reviews many of u kept ur mouths shut...now some ppl just decided to compare him to mbappe in order to make light his achievement so far and all d naysayers immediately jump on d train....una well done o...hope you guys feel beta abt urselves after dis.

i just watched eberechi eze..that boy and iwobi in midfield will solve alot of our creativity problems...but enough moping....there must be something we can do to get rohrs attention...if we lose that boy it will be both the fault of rohr...d nff ...nd us who claim to know his worth...
so any ideas?

zuchyblink:
Tammy Abraham is on fire. I hope he is still eligible to play for Nigeria

We no want...

So becos Liverpool lost to red star Belgrade...it means red star Belgrade can beat arsenal, Chelsea, and every team lower on d premier league table,

Or dos DAT mean the premier league's quality has dropped?...bros don't analyse stuff like DAT..

komekn:


I will reiterate my opinion to be clear as a clear No.9 leading the front point man STRIKER, I rate Solanke higher than KC.

That's not hype, that's just matter of fact, the same way l rate Rangers journey man striker Kyle Lafferty higher. In effect what I am saying is that KC is not striker. If that's your definition of Hype then you have created your own version of the English language.

Rangers is in the Scottish premier league 20 places below La Liga. Rangers will struggle in English league one. When a team like Rangers is down to 10 men against a La Liga team it should be game over.

If Watford want to keep a striker they paid £12.5 million for three season ago who has scored 2 goals after 30 games in the EPL. That's entirely thier business that's thier standard.

Taliban:


It should really but for this thread this won't settle it, nothing would ehn, e get as e be jare.

I like d way everyone is going back to dig out these posts even ppl wen d mata no concern directly...
I remember DAT day d guy no wan gree free d diabate iheanacho debate....karma is rili an unfair sister

Mickael2:



The problem here is because Komekn called his name then he has to be a poor player, many of the people commenting that he should not be invited have never even watched him before. I mean someone that has watched Iorfa before will wake up and say that Ajayi is better than a prime Iorfa? Seriously it is a joke.

Prime...DAT statement is key...d SE is not a gestational pod...when he hits gud form again m sure he will b considered..

jihday:
Oga forget all this your long story, bottom line is tell your boy to sort out his club form/future first Semilogo Ajayi has been very active and key for his club this season so his call to the super eagles is justified without any doubt. and please quit this mendes this Mendes that, if your boy is good enough he'll force the coach hands, do you want to tell me all the players on the books of wolves are contracted under agent Mendes? besides why did Ipswich not make his loan deal permanent or extend the loan for another season? abeg go help am sort his club status first before thinking of the super eagles

mendes go spoil Ipswich management mind against Dominic maybe

komekn:


I am automatically indignant when , FAIR-PLAY, TRANSPARENCY, OBJECTIVITY and a MERIT are put aside against FAVOURITISM and SUBJECTIVE PRESUMPTION.

What makes a player quality is consistency of top quality and or continuous above average performances and that component consistency, is intrinsically linked to time, you can not have one without the other.

Ajayi is 25, from the 2012 /2013 season until 2015 he never kicked a ball in senior first team league football that is near three years. He never played one game for Arsenal, Charlton or Cardiff, his first professional league game came at AFC Wimbledon in the 2015/16 in league two. However, despite not playing any first team football he was in the U20 Nigerian team in 2013. In 2016/17 he made it to the Championship with Rotherham playing about 17 games. 2017/18 they were relegated and Ajayi played that season in League one. Bring things up to date they got promoted and he is in the Championship 2018/19, he got MOTM award against Stoke, he is improving at 25 he is like many other players a late developer. How far can he go , time will tell.

Dominic Iorfa is 23, started playing as a teenager in 2013/14 season on loan to Shrewsbury in League one. From 2014/15, 2015/16, 2016/17 he played near 100 games for wolves , winning best young player, MOTM. Playing for England youth teams and invited to train with the first team of England. He was an established player in Wolves numerous offers from EPL sides rejected in now we know misplaced loyalty.

Before the summer of 2017 he made clear commitment to the SE he even had a positive meeting with Rohr to this effect, he was at his peak, everything was going well. He was waiting for the official call up that never materialised to date.

2017 Super Agent Mendes had taken control by proxy resulting in a FA probe that couldnt meet the burden of legal proof to make a substansive case against Wolves and Mendes, but its an open secret - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11699/11561273/wolves-boss-nuno-espirito-santo-brushes-off-football-leaks-claims-about-jorge-mendes-relationship

He brought in a new manager Nuno Santos, and he systematically began to dispose of players not within the business model. Wolves currently has more Portuguese players than Benfica and Porto. That should tell you something. Dominic arrived 2017//18 before he had kicked a ball he was frozen out no explanation. Very hurriedly had to find another club hence Ipswich Town, early 2018 he got injured so for the 2017/18 season he played about 24 games.

2018/19, things have gone so bad in a totally unprecedented move never seen before unflavoured first team players were not allowed to train with the first or the U23. However, Dominic has now been allowed back in but only with the U23.

Strikers can have dry patches and are deemed to loose form. However, defenders are not prone to loosing form so dramatically. You cant have played football as defender played consistently at a top performing and with continuous improvement then all of a sudden you are bad or not good enough. This is not a football decision but one based on the politics of football business.

Sakho was left out of the Liverpool Squad after disputes with Klopp and didn't play for quite a few months before he went to Palace and immediately changed their season. His pedigree didn't change or quality drop just the opportunity to play at Liverpool. I see similarities with Iorfa that is not a double standard.

Now the question is double standard and hypocrisy.

Ajayi has played 35 games in the championship over two seasons not consecutive and is two years older largely been anonymous compared to Dominic who has played 110 games in the Championship over four consecutive seasons that is long term top level consistency. Consistency that has seen him playing for England at all youth levels.

So who is better , on paper and statistically there is no debateBut that's not the most pertinent question in reality, but rather why is one been DENIED OPPORTUNITY and who is more DESERVING of OPPORTUNITY We will not know how good he is until he is given OPPORTUNITY, competition creates quality it doesn't diminish it. I remember Danny Shittu blatantly denied opportunity at Bolton for two seasons , leaves and was voted best Defender in the Championship he was also exceptional for Nigeria.

Now you should look in the mirror, the finger you pointed has many more fingers pointing back at you, one of them is called bigotry.


Dont presume to know what any man is thinking it is birthed out of conceit. This talk about Iorfa started well before anybody knew the name Ajayi. It started in comparison to the German trio of defenders not interested in playing for Nigeria but Rohr still keeps requesting for. At the same time as ignoring Dominic.

is it not d same iorfa ...that wanted some more time before deciding his Intl future.?...its not like he was available and wasn't picked na...
Dude was balling but saying he wanted to be 21 or so before deciding...now he is no longer as gud as he was so even if he decides for naija today...we most likely will pick d player DAT is in red hot form..
I get am b4 no b property bros

BascoVanVeli:


So because a player is in the national team he should lack ambition? Why didn't Ekong stay in Gent or Norway. The national team makes it easier to sell every player. That is why scout show up at matches so is this really news? The coach should stop being lazy and search for players. Just like he said Nosa was the best Nigerian player in Israel so he didn't need John Ogu now all of a sudden he can't drop him. I rather he say the competition isn't good enough than to come up with this mess because it just doesn't add up. Who in the Super Eagles won't want to go to a better club?

lemme breakdown d comment make by rohr so all of us are on same page.
Today he invites what he believes to be d best 23 players to rep naija.
5 from npfl(local league)
18.from europe.
Everyone is happy...

Before d next FIFA intl window.2 of d 5from npfl have joined European teams and now he invites DAT same group...but now you have
3 from npfl
Nd 20from Europe...

Ppl begin to cry foul DAT he is reducing d slots for npfl...DAT he isn't giving d npfl professionals an avenue to showcase themselves...dats his point nd I agree with him 100%....he was not employed to develop grassroot football..he was employed to manage d national team...so as long as we are getting results nd d players with the best legs nd attitude.DAT fits his own philosophy are being called...all is right with d world Bro.

We talk abt bias selection...but tell me when we have ever had an unbiased selection...all coaches aren't same so when we get a better alternative we can end our contract with Rorh and get a replacement but not until den...no one is firing rohr until he fails to deliver or until a better alternative appears

We are not playing our best football..agreed, but rohr is delivering results however slow...or unentertaining.
So in my opinion roll with d punches...cos I can say categorically that there's no indigenous coach DAT can give us d super team we are dreaming of.

fabyom:
Keshi drew Iran, he was lucky against Bosnia. He went to a world cup tournament with players like Gabriel, Uchebo etc. If you want to mention a good coach please do not call keshi. He was just a lucky coach. As much as I do not really like Rohr he has done a very good job.
No Mikel, no Moses, no Ndidi, no Ighalo, no Shehu, no Aina, no Ebuhei No Problem!

During Keshi time the bench were made up of suspect players.

God bless u

Coolgent:
PDP---------------------------POWER
before you criticise an eight month APC
Government in Nigeria pls read this;
How PDP ruined Nigeria.
1. PDP met a bag of rice at less than N2500 in
1999 but left it at N10,000 in 2015 when they left
power.
2. PDP met the Dollar at N20 when they came in
1999 but left it at N220 in 2015 when they were
leaving.
3. PDP met petrol pump price at N11 when they
came in 1999 but left it at N87 when they were
leaving in 2015.
4. PDP met a bag of cement at less than N400
but left it at N2000 while they were leaving in
2015.
5. PDP met a tin of milk at N15 in 1999 but left
it at N100 when they left in 2015.
6. PDP met only OPC in 1999 but left us with
Niger Delta militancy, MASSOB, IPOB, BAKASSI,
and Boko Haram as at when they left in 2015.
7. PDP was ushered in with a free and fair
election in 1999 by the military but they left us
with ballot box snatching, rice sharing for
campaigns, do-or-die politics, political
assassinations,etc.

What was d salary rate of a school teacher between 1999 and 2015