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mostob:
BREAKING: The Premier League has released a statement, after it was announced that Premier League clubs will be asked to vote on a possible abolition of VAR

Make Dem no abolish am abeg

Fkhalifa:
Aston Villa didn't buy 50M defender, Villa didn't have a Partey and Rice in midfield, Villa can't buy 2 city stars... No pundits will tip Villa to finish ahead of Chelsea and Utd not to talk of 4th, now talkless of the league...

But Emery's Vilareal won Europa and Reached UCL semis....Arterta hasn't reached that

Fkhalifa:
Bro, I have never asked him to be sacked, it is risky to sack him just as Arsenal realized sacking Emery (who was doing better elsewhere), didn't instantly yeuld results, it took spending and several times before everything normalized.

But Arsenal should not be relaxed with Arterta nor be celebrating near success or best after Pep.... I was only against those saying he is a legend who should be here for next 5yrs because of these incredible results... If after next season no reasonable success, the club should try and look elsewhere for a decent manager and try new things...

Just as a decent Raya who wasn't setting the world apart came and unseat Ramsdele, there are many managers who could come and be an upgrade... The Leipzig, Leverkusen, Milan etc managers are decent.

Roland17:
You are not obliged to read, there is an option to skip.

Until your school of thought start to take responsibility and hold Arteta accountable when he falters, I will. If you are indifferent about winning a title or trophies because we should be thankful to Arteta, or because he is competing against Pep, that is you and what you believe, don't force it down the rest of us. If you are content with going trophyless despite outspending Pep and Klopp over the last 2 seasons and 700M, I am not and will raise the issues I have.

Some of us see it differently because while we or should I say 'I" acknowledge the progress, I also pick out the issues, especially when it is now historical with a predictable pattern. Arteta is going into his 5th season but somehow, he continues to be shielded because we should be grateful with the way we lost in the UCL, Europa, FA, EFL and the EPL. I could care less if I am termed a hater, it is nothing new, the club comes before anyone and that includes Arteta. It is also important to note that Arteta has not improved this team in a vacuum, we saw how he struggled with the same team Ebening took to the UEL finals where the gulf in quality was finally exposed. This isn't the case where he is begging for funds or structure.

For the sake of some of you that are recent here, I wish Seun will resurrect some of our old threads from 2010/ 2011 that have been binned when Wenger was celebrating top 4, Spy360 and Oyin are probably (I stand corrected) the other surviving handles that are still here and see where handles are going at Wenger and the club for going trophyless, so no, it is not novel that supporters of Arsenal question our trophyless situation, do your research! I don't need a United or Chelsea fan before I can question the direction of the club. United and Chelsea are in their worst run, they are financially more capable than we are and if they get it right, we are now looking at better competition versus what we have in Newcastle, Villa, City and Spuds for the top 4, not even title, since we should we are forbidden from winning a title because Arteta is competing against Pep.

After last season's bottling, yes, it was an absolute bottle, this same school of thought told us to be grateful, you told us he is a rookie learning on the job, you argued it wasn't a bottle, you told us we are in process and should trust it....But when the players left and joined their National teams, they started admitting they were in control and should have closed it out but here, it is all great and dandy because Arteta is in charge. I am sorry, I don't do toxic positivity and I am not apologetic about it. I will continue to reign on Arteta if it makes anyone uncomfortable or sleepless, so be it, I don't conform to the herd.

The fact of the matter is that once again, we were in control of our destiny but came out flat and lost 2-0 at home to Villa. I can muster a strong performance on the day but if that performance against Villa isn't indicative of our now historical inability to rise to the occasion then I am not sure what is. How about the Porto game that we won on penalties? We were lost in the euphoria of winning that many forgot that was a bad performance on the night which reared it's ugly head against Bayern in the next round.

COYG!

Roland17:
If anything, this should bother you. He has won the EFL, has his team in the FA cup finals and even finished 3rd in hos 2nd season.

Arteta has had more time, more money, a very stable football structure in comparison with more control and what do we have to show for it?

Roland17:
While you have written and made some good points, this, respectfully isn’t the case. On this thread, over and over again, the reason we have failed to win irrespective is because Pep is chasing us which makes absolutely no sense to someone like me.

The toxic positivity is what many of you want some of us to swallow and we have refused it. We have not said Arteta has not improved the team but please don’t tell me he ha also not faltered or fumbled competitions when we were in strong positions to win them and those are the issues.

If after 700M, all we can brag about is finishing 2nd and being competitive then that is an indictment on Arteta considering 2 other big clubs (Chelsea/ United) are in transition and in terrible situations. Arteta is approaching the total net spend of Kloop going into his 5th year.

Wosrsestill, is the barren idea that we can’t criticize or question his position because there is no replacement, I mean! The mentality of this club is soft, too soft especially when it matters and it is not getting better. Pep has been the convenient excuse and it is littered on this thread.

If the goal is to continue spending for top 4 then let’s be on same page about it.

mostob:
At the end of the day, all these shalayes won't matter if nobody can suggest a better coach to take over. Like, mention just two coaches you would want Arsenal to consider as Arteta's replacement. No De Zerbi or Girona's coach abeg. We ain't doing that kindergarten joke here.

Nobody is even denying that Arsenal fumbled.

The guy wey leave his own club to come and be bashing us here will be over the moon if his club announces 'The Bottler' as his club's new coach.

mostob:
This season don go already bro. Na how we go gather chase the guy away from England we should be deliberating

Enyimbafc:
Mount is injured,will not play against Arsenal Mctominay,Fernandez and Rashford are back .Martinez will also miss Arsenal match.

iamoyindamola:
Which kind apology be this
Why var no interfere

mostob:
Good. But was the ball in play before Gabriel touched it?