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justwise:
100% yes, somebody i know did that in 2018 and used it for spouse visa application, i forgot the name of the registry in Owerri.

Ok. Thanks

RalphJean:
Good morning brother,
It’s nice you said your wife is reading all the responses here.
1. Why EXACTLY does she not even want to VISIT Nigeria?
2. In all her own applications for ILR, what has she been writing? Single? Married?

You & your wife needs to talk. If she loves you, as much as you Love her. Sit down together and reason like adults.
You return to Nigeria.
She returns a little thereafter.
You go to a registry and get married legally (“again”).
Organise a little ceremony.
She returns to the UK alone.
You guys begin to file for spousal visa.
#Dazzol

In one of your posts, you said travelling to Naija will be too expensive for her. That’s not entirely correct. £1400 is enough for a return ticket for her. The remaining ‘change’ is more than enough for registry marriage, and a little party thereafter.

Don’t make things difficult for yourselves.

Many thanks dear. All you said have bin noted. I will do that.

Pls lest I forget do you know if we can do court marriage in our home state? In Imo state. Will home office accept the certificate or we do at Ikeja Lagos? We can't go to Ikoyi BC that is where we did the first one. If home office accept local one I don't mind.

RalphJean:
She is assuming that a Fiancé visa application is automatically a given right?
If I recall correctly, a fiancé visa is essentially a standard visitor visa.
What if the fiancé visa is not granted? What next?

Just do everything to convince your wife to travel to Nigeria for a ‘re-marriage’

Do you know what a little part of my heart is telling me?
The woman no wan go Naija sake of say she no wan go meet her in-laws who are more interested in Grand kids than they are in her, or her happiness.

Many thanks @Jean I really appreciate all your advice and my wife is reading all. I am begging her to come back to Nigeria. I agree with you that she doesn't want to see my pple. Even if she doesn't want to see them, I can organise her to come without seeing my parents. After the court marriage she go bk immediately.
Thank you.

justwise:
Bros you have a lot to deal with here, lying in your application form carries 10yrs ban, you need a miracle to get the next visa without refusal.

That so called lawyer will make things even more difficult for you with that lies she promised to cook up for you.

You have two options here..

1.Return back to Nigeria and apply for spouse visa ( yes you are likely to be refused) and come out clean with all the lies and apologies, if you are given bingo! but if you are refused you reapply on a clean note knowing fully well that you have nothing more to hide.

This is going to cost you at least 5M naira so you need have that at the back of your mind.

Going through self employment route is not difficult since your wife does her tax return through an accountant, those category A,B,C.. you saw are all different ways of meeting spouse visa financial requirements.

Fiancé visa will cost you almost the same as spouse visa and documents needed are similar, so if you are going through that route then get ready for heavy financial investment.

2. Stay back in the UK and go through the child-family life route, pray and fast for miracle to happen in years time(I will never suggest this route). This could drag on for years and could put a strain on your marriage.

Finally Stay away from dodge immigration lawyers like the one your wife has, she is not a responsible lawyer.

Jesus! 5M where will I get such money. I rather persuade my wife to come bk so we can remarry than all this money u are taking about. I think remarry is the best from all the advices I have gotten from this wonderful forum.

Many thanks @Justwise I really appreciate all your responses and advice. I have taken noted of them. I will never overstay. I am coming bk soonest. And I will persuade my wife to come bk so that we remarry and get a certificate to apply fresh rather than applying and getting refused. I don't want to be banned. Thank you.


Pls lest I forget do you know if we can do court marriage in our home state? In Imo state. Will home office accept the certificate or we do at Ikeja Lagos? We can't go to Ikoyi BC that is where we did the first one. If home office accept local one I don't mind.

For the self employed are there other documents she needs apart from p60, tax and statement of account.

Thank you

Lexusgs430:
Just apply for NARIC.......

Noted . Many thanks. Ps bros remember to dig out the self employed documents so that I we arrange it bf I leave UK.

Lexusgs430:
She resides in an HMO and would require property inspection report + authorization from the landlord..........

Duly noted. Thanks

LagosismyHome:
I am a female

O! Sorry dear. Thanks for the correction.

LagosismyHome:
You never learn lesson ni..... you want to jump from one problem to another. What if you are caught on the job working when your visa doesnt permit . You want to be back here asking for advice

Plan as a family towards always doing the right thing. In this country to break the law seems easy but the consequences that can follow no be here

Duly noted friends. That is why I need you guys advice. I am new here. I no want any problems any more. I rather stay at home not to enter another problem. Thanks

LagosismyHome:
You never learn lesson ni..... you want to jump from one problem to another. What if you are caught on the job working when your visa doesnt permit . You want to be back here asking for advice

Plan as a family towards always doing the right thing. In this country to break the law seems easy but the consequences that can follow no be here

Duly noted Bros. I will stike to your advice. I no want more troubles again. I have indeed learn my lesson. U know I am new here, so pple would still advice me wrongly. I will not work. I rather be going to church when I am bored at home. Thanks for your advice.

Lexusgs430:
Oga, this your head you claim is empty......... You would have to clear extra space to think properly............

Does she live in a single room or one room apartment? How else can you pass the English test without doing it....... No wuruwuru to the answer.......

So long as she is sticking to her tax payment plans, you would require loads of documents from her and your accountant..... Would dig up list for self assessed sponsors (spousal visa), might be the same documents or less.....

Read through the spousal visa section, someone recently asked about fiancé visa, might be best to network with that person, to confirm requirements.........

Many thanks. Please I will appreciate if you can assist me get the list of documents she needs so that we start of the fiancé visa process. I need to join my wife. We are not getting younger.

Yes, my wife lives in single room. It is a single room in a three bedroom apartment. So she occupied one room. We have separate toliet but shared kitchen. Will home office accept the accommodation or we look for other opinion of accommodation?

Lexusgs430:
Assuming i was the ECO officer assessing your file...... I would laugh at this your tales by moonlight........

Does the story sound genuine to you?......

Lol! Not at all. That was why I seek you guys assistance. Thanks so much. I appreciate your time

Lexusgs430:
You mean working on the black market..........

Lol! My wife said she can assist me with little job I can be helping someone to do. She said a friend of her who is a nurse do care for elders in their home, I can be assisting her to get little money rather than sitting at home.

Lexusgs430:
A bit of tautology....... Was your German taught in English......

Lol! Yes lecturer taught with English and German to make us understand and I also did general courses in English. I think they call it Gen's courses then or general courses, I can't remember.

Can I go to my school and ask for my certificate than doing the English test? Which one is better? Are they other process?

LagosismyHome:
Ok. Might be sleep eye doing me. Thought there was a baby involved , that would have made it easier....

That the option I know based on a friend experience, this other path and how you go about resolving I am not sure so i won't want to advice you wrongly but best of luck

Many thanks. I appreciate your time. God bless

Lexusgs430:
Bottomline....... If your wife (can we call her that).... Remember, you're single........

Is not prepared to travel to Nigeria to use eraser to wipe the past....... Your only option is fiancé visa........ (but note on fiancé visa, you cannot work legally)....

So be prepared to be a house - husband.............

Lol! Na wa ooo! No road is easy at all. But I was told that fiancé visa as soon as I come i get married and apply for spouse visa. Atleast I will have to wait for five months bf I get spouse visa. I can look for menial jobs to be doing bf that time comes to an end.

Lexusgs430:
Oga, this your head you claim is empty......... You would have to clear extra space to think properly............

Does she live in a single room or one room apartment? How else can you pass the English test without doing it....... No wuruwuru to the answer.......

So long as she is sticking to her tax payment plans, you would require loads of documents from her and your accountant..... Would dig up list for self assessed sponsors (spousal visa), might be the same documents or less.....

Read through the spousal visa section, someone recently asked about fiancé visa, might be best to network with that person, to confirm requirements.........

My brother u will not understand. Lol! Nothing on my head. I have alot i thinking. I am just reading s thread some one mentioned going to university to get degree certificate and transcript and sending to narik . I don't get it. I have degree certificate I studied German language in unilag.

LagosismyHome:
Its might be better if the Nigeria application is explained as a mistake. People make mistake in application all the time instead of complicating with fiance visa or divorce and remarry

Someone i know personally , although he got visiting from naija and said he was married. . He came here on visiting to join his wife who had ilr, then they put in a case based on family life that since she is pregnant and had an older daughter , she needed him here to support. She also wasn't earning up to 18k hence why the family life was better than spouse visa. However this visa is discretionary so it's not black or white .

He was given the visa and put on 10 years path. After the first 2.5 years he switched to spouse visa for 5 years . So his path to ILR is 7.5 years and no longer 10 years . This story was in 2014 so don't know current rules but that was how that couple legalise their stay. The first visa for 10 years wasn't even too difficult, once there is a baby involved who is British the case is softer than no child or partner is on a non permanent visa

Many thanks but how can we explain such mistake? The mistake is a terrible one with so much complications bc the visa application asked if you have any family in the UK. I said no in my visiting visa application, whereas my wife is my family. Honestly I am really regretting this mistake. My wife lawyer said she will write in a cover letter that we were married bf and sperated bc my wife abadoned me and I decided to call off the marriage but now we met and reconciled. How do u see the story? Does it look genuine to u? Is there any instance like that? Does it carry weight at all?

We don't have kids yet for me to do the family life. Me and wife are still trying for babes.

Lexusgs430:
If heading down the spousal route, the prerequisite documentations threshold, is much higher (self employed) ...... You need to decide what path you are willing to go..........

We are going through the fiancé route. My wife said that she can't come bk to Nigeria soonest. So we decided I come bk to Nigeria and apply fiancé visa.

We are going through self employed job.
My God! What are the necessary documents required for the self employed? Do they require tax clearance certificate? My wife tax was due this year and she just started paying small small. Must she pay all at once bf we apply? Life in this country no easy o and rosy. I prefer my country Nigeria, u can do away many things.

Lexusgs430:
Like £19K is not certainty........ What figure is on her recently issued P60?......

We are all here to assist......... Plenty heads are always better than one stubborn head.........

Lol. U this guy. U are funny. I saw in her p60 £19,200. She is going through self employed route.

I just read on self employed route. I am confused . They are saying category F and category G. I am confused. I no understand ooo the category. My wife is agency using her private company registered with company house to do her job. Please we need assistance from u and others. The requirements are not easy o!. Both accommodation. My wife lives in a one room apartment in a house, which she pays £500. Per month. Will home office accept one room? When we settle down fully we will get better accommodation. I also have to write English test! My God nothing in my head now. Is there other way one can pass the exam. I really appreciate all your time and responses. God bless.

Lexusgs430:
Does she earn £18,600 per annum?......

She earns like £19,000 . She is paid weekly. She gets shifts more when there are much job at the hospital. She is working as agency as a contractor. Just like self employed. She does her tax yearly using an accountant. Please I need your assistance @Lexusgs430. I guess I are a lawyer. Pls assist a brother. I am novice in all these spouse and fiancé visa

Lexusgs430:
Is half Agege bread, much better than full puff puff?.....

Lol! Guy I understand you. U are very funny. But I need to seriously join my wife. She is refusing on coming bk to Nigeria to remarry. She said instead let me come over with fiancé visa. Lol. Women whara

Lexusgs430:
Out of desperation, you have complicated a very simple issue.........

That lie, cannot be unlied (if such word exist).....

Even after paying that £1400..... No guarantee......

If i was in your shoes, going to Nigeria and doing it all over again, would be my ideal start point and a lesson for future dealings........

NB: Are you saying lawyers want to magic your visiting visa, into spousal visa? Remember, lawyers too got bills to pay..... That £1400 would balloon into £6000 with no outcome........

While at it, head to spousal thread for guidance........

But both of us need to go to Nigeria which is expensive and beside my wife work as agency health care assistant. If no work no pay. So I was contemplating why not I go and apply for fiancé visa and join her in the UK , then apply for spouse visa after a short court marriage. Do you feel that fiancé is not really the best? We are considering many things and beside my wife doesn't want to come to Nigeria soon. I am still confused

Lexusgs430:
I have already told you what i would do, in my first reply.......

Why apply for a restrictive fiancé visa? It's not really far off your visiting visa............

Why would they apply for restriction, when they can apply for holistic?.....

Hmmm guy this your English pass my understanding o! Are you a lawyer with all these terms. Please lay man English

Many many thanks to the wonderful people on this forum. I am indeed very greatful for all your responses to my post. U guys are indeed great. U really made my day. I appreciate you all for taking out your time to respond to my post. Many thanks. My wife also give her thanks. God bless you all for your efforts in helping others. Great Nairaland! I thank God for discovering this forum. I wll still need you guys assistance to enable me join my wife legally and start a family soonest.

Lexusgs430:
Haba, why give me only half nah? Is it because i refused to attend law school.................

@Lexusgs430 please any options from you side what best to do? I have gotten many assistant from this wonderful forum. Please do you know much about the fiancé visa? Is the success rate in the visa. I am going through the spouse thread just few pple applied for fiancé visa.

Lexusgs430:
Haba, why give me only half nah? Is it because i refused to attend law school.................

@Lexusgs430 please any options from you side what best to do? I have gotten many assistant from this wonderful forum. Please do you know much about the fiancé visa? Is the success rate in the visa. I am going through the spouse thread just few pple applied for fiancé visa.

DMainMan:
We av told you what to do.

Go back to Nigeria. then:
a. You and your wife come to Nigeria and marry then apply for spousal visa
b. Apply for fiance visa, marry in the UK and then apply for spousal visa
c. Apply for student visa, marry in the UK and then apply for a spousal visa

Note that with marriage visitor visa, you can only use it to marry in the UK, You cant extend your visa or switch. You will still need to
go back to Nigeria and apply for spousal visa for settlement.

Choose any option that is most convenient for you depending on your circumstance.

Don't waste money on any lawyer who just wants to use your money. Dont lie in your application and don't overstay.


Dont look for short cut.

Many thanks @Dmain man. I will go for option B. I will go bk to Nigeria and apply for fiancé visa. I hope there is success rate in the fiancé visa? God help me!

DMainMan:
Yes. There is fiance visa. See my previous post for what I meant.

Noted. Thanks. But is this visa very easy to get with my situation?

Lexusgs430:
Did she tell you £1400 was just starters, dessert and main course, would still follow....... Tips are also payable.........

She only told us that the charge to fill for our case is £1400. Apart from the spouse visa fees and NHS

Univas01:
What route did she use to obtain her Indefinite leave to remain? EU (Permanent Residence) or British (ILR). Through British



Make sure you do not run out of your visiting visa before you apply for an appropriate visa category based on the information you gather. By the way, are you aware it impossible to apply for spouse visa whilst in the UK as a visitor?
I am very much aware[/b] .You need to apply from outside the UK as far as I can tell, make sure you're not given false information once again just as you were told to apply for visiting visa as a single person. [b]Ok. Noted



I can definitely tell you this will amount to deception and could be up to a 10 year ban, think carefully about it if you're going that route.



Yes, you can but it will be extremely difficult without engaging the services of a lawyer but it's doable. You will need to do a lot of research and read through the immigration guidance provided by UKBA thoroughly. I am a fan of DIY (Do It Yourself) but seems your case is slightly complicated.

The below link is a good place to start your research. It deals with how applications from families applying after 9 July 2012 under Immigration Rules, chapter 8, appendix FM, are handled by UK Visas and Immigration

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/chapter-8-appendix-fm-family-members

Many thanks for your respond. I appreciate. I will go through the link

RalphJean:
I am assuming that in your previous applications which were refused, you wrote “Married”.

Then in the application that was finally granted, you wrote “Single”

Now let me play the devil’s advocate here.

Maybe your ‘Singleness’ was not the reason your visiting visa was granted. Maybe there were other criteria which you didn’t meet in your previous refusals, but met those in the current application.

What if you simply apply for spousal, and pretend that the ‘single ‘ was an honest error?

No I wrote single in my previous visa that was refused.


[b]What if you simply apply for spousal, and pretend that the ‘single ‘ was an honest error?
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How can I do it please. This will lead to another whara for me. To be honest with you I wanted to put single until the agent that helped me said I should put single, that if home office know that my wife is in UK they might feel I will not come bk so they might use BC of it and deny me and say the tie I have is in UK and I will not come bk, I also reason with her. I am regretting seriously BC we are going to spend more. God help me.

justwise:
Village people are talking through your wife, she doesn't know what that process involves.Once you overstayed that visa + lying in your application form..when it comes to applying for a stay your crime book will be opened.

Avoid making things even more difficult as its.

Lawyers will pay mortgage on your head and while all these are going on you are not allowed to work

Many thanks for your advice. Please what do you suggest I do if you find yourself in this mess. Please I need soln to my problem. I need to leave with my wife legally as we av really stayed apart from each other.