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Almajirihunter:
United look ready even without some key players, hope Lukaku solves our goal issues

nateevs:
No way. They are way better than all the contenders for relegation....including Arsenal.

TheLequte:
Prophet of doom ke? I’m predicting United to win a trophy this season at least. Is that doom?

We fit sneak win the league sha. Was hoping we’d win it last season but we lost steam in January.

Chelsea have been lucky tho

TheLequte:
Prophet of doom ke? I’m predicting United to win a trophy this season at least. Is that doom?

We fit sneak win the league sha. Was hoping we’d win it last season but we lost steam in January.

Chelsea have been lucky tho

TheLequte:
Prophet of doom ke? I’m predicting United to win a trophy this season at least. Is that doom?

We fit sneak win the league sha. Was hoping we’d win it last season but we lost steam in January.

Chelsea have been lucky tho

TheLequte:
Not one bit. They’ll crumble before December.

afrodoc2:
I am not saying the gap is huge. With Varane and Sancho we tried closing it only for them to add Grealish and possibly Kane.

However if there squad is even only slightly better but their manager is way better I don’t see us winning the league.

Our only hope is miraculous seasons from 2-3 of our players and injury crises for them.

Chelshit will also be in the mix cos they have a balanced squad and a really good manager.

I don’t expect Liverpool to challenge cos I believe that squad is worn out.

I predict

City
Utd/Chelshit
Liverpool

Oasis007:
Honestly Chelsea have nothing over us, even with Jambody Acquisition.

Kobojunkie:
You are focusing on the wrong thing though. The message as explained by Jesus Christ, of the parable, is what is written of in verse 29.

Kobojunkie:
Now you are going to take up issue with the translation I use?

Are you not using a Bible written in the English language?

Kobojunkie:
Here again, you make attempts to "interpret" what was written instead instead carefully understanding the message that was given to you.
The above message is repeated several times by Jesus Christ in His teachings.

Kobojunkie:
Ok, back to the rule then ... why do you believe in "interpretation" of scripture when Jesus Christ said only those who apply understanding only will gain more of it?

I ask this because you have so far chosen to give an interpretation to all that suits abandoning the plain message contained in the context from which the scripture comes from

Kobojunkie:
The story in itself is easily comprehended without any "interpretation". To interpret scripture is to "insert between the lines" that which is not literally referenced in scripture and this some claim is done by some spiritual process which Jesus Christ never declared. An interpretation is usually offered by those who are unwilling to consider the message as given. It is a form of information of course but with a message that differs from that expressed by the human author of the text in question. Not all information is acceptable or God's Truth.

So what other interpretation is there for what is written in the creation story?

Kobojunkie:
Give more information and not interpretations?

Kobojunkie:
Give more information and not interpretations?

Kobojunkie:
No! The problem I have is that Jesus Christ, God's Law gave us one law regarding understanding but you come up with a different law that is not of Him.

Scripture does not even begin to interpret scripture at all and according to God's law, it should not do that at all. An example is the story of creation.

Kobojunkie:
Comparing scripture with scripture says nothing of what you said which is that scripture must interpret scripture .

A. When you compare scripture to scripture, you are likely trying to ascertain whether the message is consistent or not.

B. However when you interpret scripture using scripture, what you attempt to do is digest what one scripture says by applying your interpretation of what the other scripture says..

Not the same thing all.

Kobojunkie:
I asked you where your rule suggesting that scripture must interpret scripture came from..

Kobojunkie:
I don't get it! How is that a rule?

Kobojunkie:
Scripture must interpret Scripture? Is that in itself not a private interpretation since no where in scripture are you told to apply an interpretation of any kind to all that is written in scripture?

The rule that Jesus Christ gave us is that we use the understanding we have and only then will more understanding be given us - Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30. He never once said that only those who have the Spirit of God will understand Him so again, where does this rule suggesting an interpretation of all that is scripture come from?

Kobojunkie:
Scripture must interpret Scripture? Is that in itself not a private interpretation since no where in scripture are you told to apply an interpretation of any kind to all that is written in scripture?

The rule that Jesus Christ gave us is that we use the understanding we have and only then will more understanding be given us - Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30. He never once said that only those who have the Spirit of God will understand Him so again, where does this rule suggesting an interpretation of all that is scripture come from?

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you lost me when you decide Jesus Christ's statement in John 14 vs 23 - 25 a figurative statement. You are saying that Jesus Christ ought instead to have said that He and the Father would only partially make their homes inside of those who belong to them, this if only a a measure of Jesus Christ and God is involved.

And your statement about the body of Jesus Christ, the body belongs to Jesus Christ so by suggesting that it grows are you saying that Jesus Christ is growing still?

Kobojunkie:
Um... this does not address the questions I asked at all. Your suggestion that the ability to prophesy has something to do with a measure of the Spirit of God or Jesus Christ does not make sense when you consider that even unbelievers are able to prophesy and see things.

So, here again, when Jesus Christ said He and the Father will make His home in us, does that then mean we only get a portion of Jesus Christ or all of Jesus Christ and all of the Father - John 14 vs 23 - 25 ?