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A40:
And like I said in my previous posts. Their performance in the biggest matches and their titles won is an alibi for that. What is Hazard's alibi? Don't tell me age because all the people you guys love to compare him with were either Champions or had at least made impact waaaaay before his age


I blame the low standard of the EPL.

I would name 20 players better than Hazard easily. Go and watch Barcelona and see how Rakitic makes them tick.

Bale with 17 goals and 11 assists from open play is regarded as a flop this year while Hazard with 19 goals (5-6 penalties) and 13 assists is being hailed, that simply tells you the difference and who is held at a higher standard

The other players are self-explanatory I wouldn't even bother with that. Lewandowski, Mueller and Benz are not Eden Ikedia's mates


Mueller is playing in an era with Ronaldo and Messi in their peak. Even the Balon D'Or is now so infatuated with the latter two that they win the awards in years they don't deserve it.

Guys like Figo, Romario, Rivaldo, Cannavaro even Zidane might not have 3 WPOTY if they played now

We saw FIFA give Messi Golden Shoe award when even his countrymen unanimously agreed he didn't deserve it.

Sneijder was the MVP in world football for 2010 he didn't win it.

Ronaldo finished trophyless in 2013 but still ended up with the award. I don't care about personal laurels so long as Mueller wins Euro's next year to complete the sweep of winning every major title that's good enough for me

You should watch Hazard play without sentiment.
He doesn't have the goal stats or Team trophies to show for now.
At the end of his career if he doesn't have atleast a UCL and top three balondor then he did not live up to expectation

A40:
Ribery - 1 CL 2 Finals
Iniesta - 4 CLs

No room for comparison

I only named two very good players with poor ucl goal stat.

A40:
Barcelona - Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Rakitic

Madrid - Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema, Hames

Bayern - Robben, Lewandowski, Mueller (I no even include Ribery because he didn't play enough games)

Juve - Tevez,

Abeg the list is very long. I blame it on EPL's low standard this year.

Rakitic,Benzema,Bale, Muller,,Lewandowski? I give up

A40:
World Champion, UCL Champion, World Cup Silver Ball. He is living up to the billing over to Hazard

I'm not making any comparison just saying muller also HAD the potential to be world best player but no longer has it.The 5th in balond'or is the best he would ever be.

A40:
If we take out goals Drogba has scored from freekicks and corner kicks I wonder what we would have left. A penalty is an uncontested shot on goal, freekicks and corners are not. If you are following the trend of the argument we have been focusing strictly on penalties

Noted.
Without penalties his goal stats in UCL is poor so is Ribery's and Iniesta's.

A40:
Well according to your league yes but there are at least 3 teams in Europe with at least 3 players better than Hazard

From this season overall performance I disagree

A40:
And I agree he has the potential to become the best in the world same way Stanley Okoro had the potential to be the best in the world

Thomas Muller also HAD d potential.

Hazard now worth more than Ronaldo according to a study by CIES football observatory.

A40:
Goals from corner? I didn't know Mueller has started scoring Olympic goals

Dude! We were arguing about penalties. Where did corner and freekick come from?

I was just explainin d meanin of goals from open play. I said corner situation (directly or indirectly)

A40:
How can goals and assists not matter when you don't have a track record of performance or trophies to back it up? You don't expect us to judge a player as the best merely cos he dribbles

He is d best in epl dis season and has d potential to become best in d world not just cos of his dribbles but his general game play

A40:
Then you are buttressing my argument

when u subtract his goals from corner and free kick situation then u have open goals which is 8,6,9,9,9

A40:
The only game Ribery didn't play that year in the knockout phase we almost got knocked out. He delivered the pre-assist and the assist in the 2013 Final vs Dortmund. Not forgetting how he played vs Juve n Barca

It is how he played that mattered most not his goals or assists that was why you where almost knocked out.

A40:
Chale he has done so on 4 different occasions I swear I don't know what you are talking about

The open goal was referring to goals outsyd corner,freekick and pk.His league goals outsyd pk from 2010/2011-2014/2015 are 12,7,11,10,10

A40:
Only that Ribery won the treble and played a role in both goals for the CL Final

I like this ur comment at least you know being a good footballer is not just about scoring goals. He wasn't d only player dat won d treble and didn't score or assist in the final.He won european best cos of his game play

A40:
Something he was doing before he turned 21?

Why hasn't he done it in d last 5 years?

A40:
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why Hazard only has 2 goals from open play for 3 seasons in Chelsea

Probably same reason ribery had one Cl goal the season he won european best player.

raumdeuter:
Yes he has.

Muller scored over 10 league goals from open play in 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014.

Thank me later

He didn't. Do ur research and thank me later

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A40:
This is not Lahm calling Hazard the best player in the world or even one of the best. This is talking about possessing a desirable attribute for a certain position.

Whether my opinion is relevant or not it will not put more goals in the back of the net for Hazard in elite Europe.

Pele once said Nii Lamptey is the next Pele. So sorry its not by opinion of a player

That's why competitions and tournaments are organized. So even if Lahm calls Hazard the best dribbler since Garrincha, his 2 goals from open play in the Champions League tell me something is wrong somewhere.

Has muller scored up to 10 league goal from open play in the last five year?

homesteady:
Haaa! 18 assists? oga na wa for you oh
Can you explain the bolded more?

20 assist actually epl-11 ucl-2 fac-2 carling-2 europa-2 cwc-1

homesteady:
Haaa!
18 assists? oga na wa for you oh

Can you explain the bolded more?

Why do you have a problem with hazard goal and assist stat when iniesta's own was not that impressive even with players like messi,ibrahimovic,villa and neymar as his team mate.

Ribery had I think 1 champions league goal when he won best player in europe and third world best player