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raumdeuter:
ou forgot to tell us that while Hazard started his pro football career before Gotze, He also scored 16 awoof penalties in that time.

Remove the 16 penalties and see how much of a failure Hazard is.

In the Champions League which is where the big players meet,

Hazard has scored 4 goals (2penalties) and 7 assists

Gotze has 7 goals and 13 assist in the same competition

Which means Gotze has almost doubled Hazard in every meaningful stat You see with evidence why I said Gotze is twice the player Hazard is

Goals almost twice, assist almost twice. You would need 2 Hazard to have close to the output of Gotze

I wont even tell you about the National team cos with that Hazard would been completely destroyed

hazard has more goal and assist overall. don't bring d goal/assist per game talk cos messi is d best player ever in la liga and ronaldo has more goal per minute ratio than him in la liga

raumdeuter:
Thats the excuse people give for failures like Hazard.

Shaqiri plays for Switzerland and he has 14 goals including 3 in the World cup

schurrle has 17 goals for germany so he is better than gotze cos of dat?

raumdeuter:
Gotze was the main player that was making Dortmund great. Why can't Hazzard do the same for his team. I'm sure you have another excuse lined up

I'm still waiting for you to tell us the years Hazzard had a good yr for his national team

dortmund winning d league was cos of team play dortmund main player was kagawa be4 he left for man u in 2012/2013 season
gotze had 6 goals be4 2014 while hazard had 5 that how things can change in a year. The fact that gotze has seven more goals than hazard for his national team doesn't mean he is anyway better

raumdeuter:
Compared to Bill Gates, Jim Ovia is a poor man,

Compared to Gotze, Hazard is a failed player. If Gotze thats younger than him, started football later tan him still has better stats

Gotze has spent less than 2 seasons at Bayern

Hazard is playing for the table topper in the EPL currently so whats the excuse there?

Gotze has played 62 matches for Bayern so far while Hazard has played 130 matches for Chelsea a top side

Hazard is playing currently with Fabregas, Diego Costa, Matic and Mourinho. what more excuse can you come up with

gotze 2010/2011 till last season
best german team i.e dortmund(2010/2011)-8goals
best german team i.e dortmund(2011/2012)-7goals
2ndbest german team i.e dortmund(12/13)-16goals
best german team i.e bayern(2013/2014)-15goals


Eden hazard 2010/2011 till last season
best lowly french league team i.e lille(2010/2011)-12goals
3rdbest lowly french league team i.e lille(2011/2012)-22goals
3rdbest epl team i.e chelsea(2012/2013)-13goals
3rdbest epl team i.e chelsea(2013/2014)-17goals

raumdeuter:
Now if we go to National Team

Hazard made his National team debut since November 2008 making it 6 years now. He has a whooping 6 goals

Gotze made his National Team debut in November 2010 making it 4yrs now. He has 13 goals

Once again with stats Gotze has proven he is twice the layer Hazard is.

the fact hazard had a bad year for his national team(based on stats) which would improve doesn't mean gotze is better.
2013 gotze had 3 goals in 9 games hazard had 3 in just 6

raumdeuter:
Now if we go to National Team

Hazard made his National team debut since November 2008 making it 6 years now. He has a whooping 6 goals

Gotze made his National Team debut in November 2010 making it 4yrs now. He has 13 goals

Once again with stats Gotze has proven he is twice the layer Hazard is.

gotze plays for germany hazard plays for belgium

raumdeuter:
You havent told us the games where Hazard scored his 9goals in European competitions or does that include play station?

In Champions league Gotze has double the number of goals and assist of Hazard

Despite Hazard starting his pro career 2 yrs earlier. When compared to Gotze, Hazard is a failure

failure? seriously?
Hazard has two goals in EL qualifier for lille, two in EL for lille, one in EL for chelsea,four in CL for chelsea
Meanwhile gotze has been playing for d best team in german league except 2012/2013 which his team where second and you can't compare d quality of players hazard played with to gotze

coogar:
even if we agree with this that penalties are also goals - götze still shytes on hazard.

from 2010/11,

gotze has scored 39 league goals in 7,166 mins. hazard has scored 54 league goals in 12,821 minutes.

gotze finds the net every 183 mins, hazard(including his awoof penalties) finds the net in every 237 mins. that's a difference of 50 mins.

even if we look at their assist stats.....

gotze has assisted a league goal 44 times since 2010/11 & hazard has assisted a league goal 60 times in the same period.

gotze assists a goal in every 163 mins while uncle hazard can only manage the feat in every 214 mins. that's another 50 mins difference between the two.

hazard must wait 50 mins after gotze had already either scored or assisted a goal before he can contribute in a match. what a damning statistic & a huge blow to all y'all hazard fawners.


i'll let the neutrals draw their conclusion from this. gotze was only 18 years of age at the start of 10/11 season.

So hazard is one year older with more goals, more assist
probably more dribbles,more chance created,tackled more within same period of time(2010/2011 till date)
and still you say gotze is better?
They don't give highest scorer or assist based on goal/assist per minute

raumdeuter:
ou forgot to tell us that while Hazard started his pro football career before Gotze, He also scored 16 awoof penalties in that time.

Remove the 16 penalties and see how much of a failure Hazard is.

In the Champions League which is where the big players meet,

Hazard has scored 4 goals (2penalties) and 7 assists

Gotze has 7 goals and 13 assist in the same competition

I wont even tell you about the National team cos with that Hazard would been completely destroyed

That is why I said from 2010/2011 and a penalty is a goal in football until d bring a rule in football dat states otherwise and players miss penalties too. Why does gotze not take penalties?
Also hazard and gotze have 9 goals each in europe(CL & EL)

coogar:
how many minutes have both played since that time. don't just tell us the number of sheer goals when the number of minutes differs.

You can help me find out d numba of minutes and those that are of the opinion that gotze is better can convince me by stating why

coogar:
di maria is 100 times better than hazard in finishing/assisting/creating chances.

don't compare sleep to death.

assisting and creating chances di maria is better but finishing hazard is better

raumdeuter:
If we ask you to back up this statement now I'm sure you would run away.

Take the challenge and show us hazard goal or assist stats that makes him half as good as Gotze

They are actually on d same level and could get better, I said hazard was better cos someone said gotze was better
BTW from 2010/2011season till date hazard has 69 club goals while gotze has 56

yes hazard has to work on his finishing. But he is better than di maria in that

hazard Individual honours:
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–11 ,
2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2): 2008–
09 , 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–10 , 2010–
11 , 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,
March 2011, March 2012
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2013–14
PFA Team of the Year (2): 2012–13 , 2013–14
Chelsea Player of the Year (1): 2013–2014

hazard is still better than gotze

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