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i ve heard of this, but ive always wondered how was a town of mixed ijaw, ikwerre n ogoni tribe given an ikwerre nam

forget media politics, Ph is not as bad as they portray, infact in comparism to many other south south cities Ph is one of the most peaceful ones, i luv pitakwa

Alexis11:
KNOW YOUR HISTORY AND FAMILY TREE LINE AND WHERE YOU ORIGINATED FROM.
They documented some of our history in your bible but you don't know. IGBOS
BIBLICAL GENEALOGY.
Let's begin according to Genesis 29 verse
30: JACOB had
twelve (12) sons namely:
#1. Ruben
#2. Simeon
#3. Levi
#4. Judah
#5. Dan
#6. Naphtali
#7. Gad
#8. Asher
#9. Issachar
#10. Zebulun
#11. Joseph
#12. Benjamin.
The 7th son was GAD.
and according to Genesis 46 vs16. GAD
had seven (7) sons
namely:
Ziphon
Haggi
Shunni
Ezbon
Eri
Arodi
Areli.
Sometime in Middle East, famine struck
and Jacob moved
with his family and about 70 other
relations to Egypt.
But before then Joseph (which was 11th
son of Jacob) had
already been sold to Egypt by his brothers,
where he was
made Governor General under a King
Pharaoh.
As time goes on when the Pharaoh that
knows Joseph died,
they started suffering persecutions from
the hand of
Egyptians but ERI the 5th son of GAD
foresaw the danger,
persecution, and wickedness coming and
he decided to
leave in time with his two younger
brothers, ARODI & ARELI
with one of his half brothers.
They travelled through Ethiopia, Sudan
and down towards
West Africa through river nile and landed
at a place known
as AGULERI today through Omambala river
in Anambra
state, around 1305 BC.
(I) ERI established and lived close to the
Omambala river.
He was wealthy and wise like his great
grand father
(Abiama) Abraham.
That is why Anambra state has the
highest number of rich
people in Africa.
ERI; had five (5) sons:
(1) Agulu
(2) Atta
(3) Oba
(4) Hebrew/Ibo
(5) Menri
(1) AGULU; as the first son stayed back
and established in
the place known as Agulu-ERI (Agulu son
of ERI) in
Anambra state.
(2) ATTA; moved to upward North and
established a place
known as "IGALA Kingdom " and that is
why their overall
KING is known as "Atta of IGALA" in Kogi
state
(3) OBA; left and founded a place known
as Oba Kingdom in
Anambra state.
(4) HEBREW; which have been changed to
mean Hibo or Ibo.
He was very powerful spiritual man and
that is why people
from this area are always very spiritual.
He left and founded Igbo-Etiti, Igbo-
Adagbe, Igbo- Eze
(within Nsukka and parts of Anambra).
(5) MENRI left and founded a place known
as ""AgukwuNRI".
NRI Kingdom.
(II). ARODI moved to a place known as
"ARO- CHUKWU".
Very industrious and good at arts and
crafts.
(e.g: Aba Ngwa people of Aba).
ARODI gave birth to:
(1) Nembe
(2) Ngwa
(3) Abakaliki
(4) Ogoni
(5) Afikpo
(6) Aro-Ikot Ekpene (Akwa Ibom )
(7) Aro- Echie (Rivers state)
( Arondizuogu.
During slave trade Aro spread all over the
world. America,
Cuba, Brazil and "ARO-festival" is always
been celebrated
in CUBA.
(III). ARELI was a man with a lot of
Wisdom. The native
tongue of his descendants is today
known as "Central
Igbo". And people from this Area have the
highest number of
graduates and professors in Igbo land.
ARELI gave birth to:
(1) Owerri
(2) Umuahia
(3) Diobu (River state)
(4) Okigwe
(5) Orlu
(6) Nkwerre
(7) Elele (Mba Ise)
(9) Mba Ano, etc...
ERI half brothers moved and founded
IJAW nationality and
some parts of Edo State and many other
parts of Niger
Delta.
EVIDENCES and SIMILARITIES:
Now to verify some of the things I have
said above.
(1) If you get to Aguleri there is a
particular house known as
OBI GAD (house of GAD).
Remember GAD was the 7th son of Jacob
(Gen 29:30) and
GAD had five (5) sons of which the last
three (3) who were
ERI, ARODI and ARELI and some of their
half brothers left
Egypt to West Africa).
The OBI GAD was the resting or relaxing
place for ERI and
his brothers and they named it OBI GAD in
order to honour
their father (GAD, the 7th son of Israel).
This OBI GAD was
the first house built in Igboland. This is
the reason why
every Igbo man always build a place called
OBI/OBU in his
house in honour of his father and mainly
for relaxation and
in the olden days, there is always a family
shrine or little
oracle, and why they worship Oracle then
was because they
left EGYPT before GOD gave 10
commandments to Moses
for the Israelites, of which one of the 10
commandments is
against idol worship. (even though
modern day Igbos now
build OBI as outside BAR without any
Shrine, while some
Christians don't build OBI anymore
because of their beliefs).
It can also be Called ERI TEMPLE.
The Obi GAD also serve as a Consulting
place for some
royal fathers from other community that
have Direct root to
ERI.
ANOTHER EVIDENCE.
(2) At the Burial place of ERI, there is a
TRINITY TREE
standing on the grave site.
These are three Trees but are strongly
United and
connected by Single Tap Root.
(3) "ADA" means first Daughter in Israel
(Gen 4 vs 19- 20)
and it means the same thing in Igbo
language.
(4) Before an Igbo man makes a
contribution in a public
gathering, he will shout "Igbo kwenu "
and the people will
respond "Yah" and "Yah" is short form of
" Yahweh.
Yahweh is the name of Jewish GOD.
(5) STAR OF DAVID AND some bronze
medals Encrypted
with Hebrew Codes were found in many
part of the Igbo
land.
(6) Israelis (Jews) manufactures 80% the
world weapons
and 70% of USA weapons.
Just like Igbos manufactured 80% of all
the weapons used
during Biafran. Which no other African
nation has done.
Igbos were only defeated during the war
due to Hunger
policy.
By now, we would have manufacturing
war weapons for
Africans, and no country will have to go
outside Africa to
purchase weapons to fight Insurgency, if
not for the bad
policy of Nigeria.
Igbos are the most highly technologically
inclined people in
the whole of Africa.
You will also notice that Igbos always
handle the post of
science and technology and industry in
most Nigeria
ministerial post.
The first West African billionaire is from
Nnewi: Chief Sir
Louis Ojukwu.
The black Indigenous Vehicle
Manufacturers eg:
INNOSON MOTORS AND
COSHARIS MOTORS,
Indigenous MOBILE PHONE AND COMPUTER
MANUFACTURERS eg:
(A) SLOK MOBILE (Orji Uzo kalu)..
(B) ZINOX COMPUTERS (Leo Stan Ekeh).
(C) SLOT MOBILE (NNAMDI EZEIGBO)
(D) Father of internet and founder of the
fastest computer in
the world (PHILIP EMEAGWALI) etc.
(7) We carry home our dead ones just like
the Israelites
(Gen 49 vs 29-50). (Just like the Israelites,
we were led or
ruled by Elders and Priest.
There was no King in Israel until Samuel
appointed Saul as
the King of Israel and that was why
Israelites were led by
Prophet Moses and so many other
Prophets.
CONCLUSION: Isreali Ambassador (Noah
Katz) Confirmed
that Igbos are Jews. (Check Daily Sun
Newspapers 28th
March 2004).
Therefore, Igbo are the Engine Block and
Japan of Africa ,
no wonder an Author with international
reputation,
"Emefiena Ezennia" said that "In Biafra
Africa Died". We are
good people, we love our neighbours, we
accommodate
anybody. We can live everywhere and
develop anywhere. It
is in our blood to develop.
We need Igbos to develop Nigeria, Africa
and even the world
as a whole, we are God's people, a chosen
generation!
Nigeria should stop the marginalization of
the Igbos and the
Biafrans or let them have their freedom.


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wow, this could be true o, but eri half brothers founded ijaw n niger delta?, IDK, anyway since we all come from adam n eve we are all israelites nah

warri city as we know is the home of 3 diff tribes, the ijaws, the urhobos n itsekiris, but the times of travelled to warri city ive seen areas like okere, ogonu, edjeba, igbudu, (urhobo) and ekurede, ajamimogha, ugbuwangue(itsekiri), then you see ijaws in areas like ogbe ijoh, benikrukru these are not part of main warri city, my question is, in the main warri city do ijaws own?

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Chinachriss:
Mention five prominent people from Oron. Leave Cities. Can you post your village photos. The last time I came to Udung Uko in Oron, Chineke mee! I wept. I saw first class poverty. Mud mud houses everywhere. If I post my Mbano village here ee, you will understand how Igbos have taken it to another heights.

Even in all of una cities, Most landlords are Igbos. Biko, leave us alone ooo.

so there r no mud houses anywhere in d east, i dont know who u think is being deceived by this nonsense, i doubt ure even Igbo, if u r den ur a shame to ur tribe, and who told it is Igbo landlords that are much in SS cities, you think its like Lagos? the SS is diff ball game, Benin, Warri, Port harcourt, Calabar non are dominated by Igbos

morpheus24:
Still dancing around with semantics here. ''if the genealogical, cultural, linguistic and etymological tests fail to show that two people are of the same stock, there is one undeniable test that will resolve the issue.


Your people know what to do to shut these "lieing" Igbos up once and for all.

Ancestry.com and 23andMe is your friend, una get community for abroad that can afford the test. Please advocate for that

And this goes for the rest of the so called Anioma peoples, una people full for abroad, make una do the needful, otherwise all your lamenting na political manueavers.

we don do test already, if you nor believe go rock transformer

marvinsync:
lol so can u please tell me why u speak Igbo
and please give me a direct answer not all those
because I speak English does that make me an English man answer

I want to know directly why u don't just speak ,Igbo but bear Igbo names and cultures

abi u want to say u were colonized and we forced it down ur throat and up ur asses


and also if ur not Igbo then what are u ?
Benin? , if so do u have concrete proof or link to Benin , no need answering this question cause I know the answer is no , there is no evidence supporting a Benin origin ,

so why aren't u Igbo then? and why did u suddenly realise it after the civil war?

well, as for why ikwerre speaks igbo, im think its due to closeness, maybe due to trading sometime ago, im not so sure, but whatever the reason, the MERE FACT THAT WE SPEAK SAME LANGUAGE DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE US SAME TRIBE, why cant u guyz understand dat?

marvinsync:
lol so can u please tell me why u speak Igbo
and please give me a direct answer not all those
because I speak English does that make me an English man answer

I want to know directly why u don't just speak ,Igbo but bear Igbo names and cultures

abi u want to say u were colonized and we forced it down ur throat and up ur asses


and also if ur not Igbo then what are u ?
Benin? , if so do u have concrete proof or link to Benin , no need answering this question cause I know the answer is no , there is no evidence supporting a Benin origin ,

so why aren't u Igbo then? and why did u suddenly realise it after the civil war?

must everytribe in nigeria have bini or igbo origin? Its clear youve not been carefully reading the other post b4 dis point, ok look at ikas, their language, culture is half igbo half edo, they bear igbo as well as edo names like (abba, ozegbe, ikhans) but its only igbos that always lay claim, wat makes u think they r not bini pepo who were influenced by igbo cuz of closeness, why must it be the other way round cuz igbos say itz so

what weve been trying 2 say is if Igbos only proof that ikwerre is igbo is cuz they speak igbo n bear igbo names, then they have no proof at all, cuz in terms of culture(ancient beliefs, way of life n doing things, dressing, dance, food) ikwerre is closer to the riverine tribes(ijaw, ogoni) than igbos

viscerion:
yes now! all this tinz pepo praise igbo for, its cause theyve not seen Southsouth style.

Igbos are even aware of the ignorance of yorubas n hausas n they use it to their advantage, for example, they claim they own the resources n r the life of nigerian economy yet they are marginalized. When really, we know the truth that 96% of nigeria's oil is from SS, n oil is over 90% of nigeria's economy, as for the marginalization aspect, if igbos are marginalized what will you say of the SS tribes

Up South South

The one zone Igbos cannot use their "our resources feed this country" wahala for(resources ke), the one zone most respected in Nigeria, the one zone that Igbos are not better than at everything, the only real competition for igbo culture supremacy, they best the hausa n yoruba pepo in everything but the only challenge Igbo pepo cannot surpass are the SS people, AREA!

(na joke o)

morpheus24:
You had no idea by what I meant by the statement, did you?

You are talking about self determination which is subjective, White Americans are a tribe, clan or ethnic group of the larger european gene pool, They do not deny their origins nor fabricate history. They can confirm it any day just by a simple DNA test.

Ikwerre can self determine and become anything they wish to, I am not against that but in order to settle the matter of possible farbrications or distortions of origins or connnections to a group they seem to share numerous similarities, please tell your people to take a simple DNA TEST, if they cluster with Edo people then problem solved.

DNA DOES NOT LIE!!!!

so from your logic, nigeria is a tribe of a larger african pool

bigfrancis21:
Please provide the result for us to see.

rat done chop am o

morpheus24:
Answer to your question Yes and no

Yes, depending on your definition of what constitutes ethnicity.

NO, depending on your definition or what constitutes ethnicity.

If you want I can elaborate but you said i should just answer the question.

dah means ikwerre can be igbo or non igbo dependa on ones definition, since most tribes define ikwerre as non igbo, majority carry d vote

mabea:
There is something wrong with it except amadi holds a different meaning for both bearers.

so we in SS dat diff tribes answer name with some meaning are we wrong human beings

RedboneSmith:
DNA test this morning, and the result is already out. Well done.

dats how good ikwerre doctors are

R2bees:
The hat is so enticing.. if you know you know. #RoseCartel.

now back to the topic, Ermm, I only know it is. a south-South Dressing. Edo, Bayelsa.

Edo? far from an edo dressing

although this is a general dressing in the Niger delta, all the tribes from delta, bayelsa and rivers can dress like this, in fact remove the hat n the handky and it will look like igbo too

well the pic is looking like Ijaw, but tying handky to walking stick is a calabar thing, so not sure, but ill guess ijaw

morpheus24:
lol

Viscerion knows how to find the answer to what he is looking for, being angry about Igbo saying this or that is besides the point. The truth of your origins is in your DNA. If a Yoruba man takes DNA test he will confirm who he is, IF Hausa man take test, he will confirm, if Zulu man take test he will confirm, If half caste take test him self go confirm.

We are waiting on Ikwerre people, if you take the test and you are not of the IGbo stock then problem solved, Shikena!

come and post the results on Nairaland for us to see.

Otherwise every other arguement postulated regarding this matter is noise making

my family n i went for DNA test this morning, and there is 0% igbo in our blood. Problem Solved!

frankfrancis871:
Truth is I don't comment on these kinds of post but I will try so read slowly

[b]As far as we know, there was no collective Igbo empire, Leader etc rather Igbo tribes or nations. There was no Igbos 200 years although they existed and worked together, to me Igbo is a race and I will prove it, you can research it

1. The Ngwa are the most populous single 'sub-tribe' in Igboland with over 2.5 million population, yet they are classified as Igbos. These great people have their own alphabets different from the normal Igbo alphabets, they refer to their Igbo neighbours as Ihuhu and have many DIALECTS yet Ngwa language is a dialect under Igbo!

2. My people refer to other Igbos from Anambra I think, as Ndi Abelu yet does that make them less Igbos! TRIBE OR NATION IS ALL ABOUT COMMITMENT, LOYALTY ETC, anyone can be anything as long they don't distort history! If I chose to be Igbo, fine! If I chose to be hausa, fine!

3. Here in Nasarawa, many people attending Nsukka meeting are from different villages in Nsukka and different dialects!


I can go on and on, just as the English, Americans etc are not from one origin so are the Igbos! Let's live in peace and stop all these, anyone who refuse to be Igbo fine and good! Igbos from Ebonyi speak Igbo that is hard to comprehend yet they chose to be with Igbo race fine, anyone who doesn't want to have anything to do with Igbos is free to do so. Enough of all these, thank you![/b]

well said

morpheus24:
You are playing semantics here with the definitions of tribe, ethnic group, dialect and language.

If two groups in close proximity to each other speak a similar language this correlates with a similar genetic origin. Period

Clan names, tribes etc are fluid and can change depending on situations. Therefore Ikwerre may has started off within the igbo clan or group and diverged at a certain period creating a distinct dialect that later fits into what can be construed as a language of its own.

The Bantu tribes of South Africa are a clear example of this. Almost every ethnic group in that country are originated from the same stock of people however through time,new clans, tribes and ethnic groups have surfaced. The Zulu, Ndebele, Swati, Xhosa, are all distinct groups of people but who's languages are somwhat mutually understandable amongst them. They originate from a common ancestor and are referred as Nguni because of this.

THEREFORE SIMILAR LANGUAGE CORRELATES TO SIMILAR ORIGINS most of the time.

Stop endless and senseless socio political arguments.

from what youve said, all of us originated from adam n eve, does that then make all of us are jews or whatever race adam was?

viscerion:
dey dont marry dem, but igbo men dey trip 4 SS girls die, just that u dont marry someone just cuz ur drooling for dem

See proof, ask an average nigerian man who he prefers: Igbo girl or Calabar girl

the thing is since my yorubas n hausas think SS is igbo, when they see a fine ishan, isoko, ijaw or ibibio girl they will say 'see fine Igbo girl' Igbo will get the praise.

I remember in lagos when one yoruba guy was calling names of fine famous Igbo girls, i was surprised he was calling names like:- Ini edo, agbani darego, ruth kadiri, mercy aigbe, belinda effah, nancy isime, eva alordiah, amanda ebeye e.t.c, as Igbo girls? thing is many things people respect igbos for is actually cus dey confuse SS with SE. i didnt say this to bring fight o

uzobaby:
what is a dialect and what is a language? ??what does rumuibekwe mean? What does Eze mean??why don't speak a language that sounds like I jaw your closest neighbour??Ikwerre is a dialect of Igbo just as we have Izii, Ezza, Nsukka, Ohafia, Asa dialects. .I understand a bit of Ikwerre than even Izii or Ezza or Ndoki.Languages have dialects which are its variants and a lot of factors affect these dialects as a result of proximity with people of other culture. .this where borrowing,acculturation influences these dialects. .in as much as the Ikwerre dialect is 80 percent mutually intelligible with the central Igbo ..it is not a full fledged language for now..as it stands the need to be seen as a separate is purely for political and economic reasons. ..

Ibibio and Annang, These are different TRIBES(ETHNIC GROUPS) not different dialects, ask an akwa ibomite, cuz these days its like all igbos are the only ones who know history, nonsense

viscerion:
dis is my problem with many Igbos, acting as if they are the only ones who know evritin, I know the diff btw a dialect of a language and a language itself and it does not apply to my points at all. Ibibio and Annang are not diff dialects of same tribe, they are different tribes and each has its own diff dialects, ikwerre sef has diff dialects so it cant be a dialect of igbo.

AGAIN, THE SAME LANGUAGE DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THE SAME TRIBE, if you dont know this, its cuz ure not exposed to diff tribes, thoes from the SS have a good understanding of what im taking about

"my name is amadi but i nor be Igbo" there is nothing wrong with that statement because God did not create amadi solely for igbos. the ikas in agbor have enough similarities with bini for edo to claim, infact some people call them edo, but since igbo is the bigger tribe, they are the ones hammering on their claim, bringing unrelated points. This is the problem of Nigeria's big three, their domineering nature, thinking all the other minorities tribes are under them,

Abeg tell them to come to SS, and see 5 diff tribes speaking same language but other aspects of their culture clearly shows they are diff tribes

viscerion:
i doubt you and aries are even igbo, igbo people are very sensible and dont go around rubbish of what they dont know like aries, they are level headed, mannered and dont act immature and stone headed

to all real Igbo people, i hail, one love south east n south south

abi na, man pikin go joo dey kama kama like junky, dats how they will spoiing d gud name of wonderful Igbo pepo

well its clear ariesbull n immhotep just want to be deceiving themselves so ill leave them

To all yorubas, hausas, all northerners, and south southerners, the next time you enter an argument with an Igbo person on whether ikwerre, ukwuani, ika of delta are igbo? just give the igbo person these following points

1.) people of bonny in rivers are ijaw, yet they speak igbo. tribe is not by language

2.)urhobos and isokos of delta are like twins, yet they maintain their status as different tribes, go to warri and see

3.)Ibibio and efik of akwa ibom and cross river despite strong similarities maintain their status as different tribes, it is we outsiders that just grouped all of them as "calabar people"

4.) ikwerre people have as much similarities with ijaw as with igbo, come to rivers and see, ikwerre main dressing and dance like ijaws

5.) yorubas answer timi, ijaw people also bear timi does that make ijaws yoruba?

6.) though not confirmed, they are evidences that show ikwerre and ika of agbor MAY come from Edo, which may explain the name "rumuighoroya"

7.) Even Non Nigerians from togo, ghana e.t.c claim to be Nigerians if it will favour them jobs, admission, social benefits, e.t.c, after all GEJ an ijaw man gave himself azikiwe to get favour from igbos, so dont be surprise when famous ikwerre people all themselves igbo, same people will claim hausa if they can if it will favour them

8.)Ikwerre has different dialects, so ikwerre itself cannot be a dialect under igbo

9.) why is it only Igbo people that keep insisting that ikwerre and ika and ukwani of delta state are igbos, when even the ikwerre, ukwani people dont insist that

i could go on and on, dont be deceived, rumuighoroya meka we

ariesbull:
Even if they are Igbo we consider them backward and foolish ..that's why we call them Ikwere ihuruho....they are the most backward set of Igbo speaking clans ...they with Ọgba! Very backward set


I hate admitting they are Igbo just that their names and culture are so Igbo unless I would never even contest their igboness


They are laid back to be Igbo.

and yet port harcourt, the city of lazy backward ikwerre people, is far above any city of the almighty igbos

so cuz my surname is amadi, and when God created the world he said only igbos should answer amadi, because youve not seen names dat diff tribes bear b4

Shugavee:
lol!!!! Well that’s the stupid thing about these people so confused,, some will say they r igbos for obvious reasons while some will say they ain’t with no reason at all!!


Truth remains as far they speak our language they r Igbos,,, they can deny it till infinity but truth is truth.

wat of bonny dat speak igbo, are they no longer ijaw? but now igbo bcuz of d language

ariesbull:
I told him that ikwerre isn't Igbo that he should forget that Edwin Clark and Ijaws thag always call Ikwere igbo ? They don't know anything ! The Ijaws are stupid for calling ikwerre Igbo ! The ogoni are stupid for calling ikwerre Igbo ! The igbo are stupid for even assuming that ikwerre are their cousins....even Amaechi, Duncan and Tonto are stupid for seeing themselves as igbo


It's only the street urchins in ikwerre Right!

you lie too much, im ikwerre, rumuighoroya from obio akpor, Duncan mighty is one of the ikwerres who always insist we are different from igbo, so now since me, my family, viscerion, and duncan mighty dont call ourselves igbo we must be either street urchins or afonja cuz, we didnt agree with your wrong opinion of our own tribe, ok o, Mr Evercorrect, you have too much sense

Shugavee:
urhobo riverine tribe How,,,, this is so wrong jeez ,, the two riverine tribes in delta is ijaw and itshekiri, n they don’t even hv similarities ,, urhobo n ijaw don’t dance the same way at all, the music r the same sound How,, the only thing u are little right about is their dressing,,, but Igbos dress that way as well, urhobo don’t eat foods loaded with any sea food !! U don’t know what u r saying

Itsekiri and Ijaw are the two coastal tribes, but Urhobo, Ijaw, Isoko and Itsekiri are all riverine tribes