₦airaland Forum

Not really. But which do you think is the option that makes the most sense? To continue spending billions on outdated, unrecoverable refineries like is reported in this story? Or to spend the billions instead on building new ones? If it's your personal money, on which one will you spend it?

Love800:
Okay, govt should build a new refinery? Am just asking though.

Please can someone wager a guess on the possible reason for Nairaland's most recent obsession with drug stories from India? One or two of these stories a week could be excused. But these stories almost every single day of the week on the front page? Something is going on with that.

How much does it cost to build a brand new refinery? How feasible is it trying to repair or revamp a refinery built in 1978, a time when we didn't even have computers? Why are these people like this? How much longer must they stink in their stewpidity and corruption?

Where are the cows? Has he found them?

What democratic gains is he talking about? A democratically elected governor chased out of office and a military administrator foisted in his place? Is that the democratic gain he's talking about? Or is it using moles and agents to destabilize opposition political parties for partisan gain?

I don't get involved in man - woman matter. But this Tuface looks unwell. Something is going on beyond what we can see on the surface.

Nigerian politicians have been doing politics this way since 1960. If this is how countries grow/develop, we would be far better than Singapore and Taiwan.

My very last take on this issue. In any other country that's really committed to development the way the world understands and plays it, it wouldn't be me and you splitting hairs on here. It is really about development strategy which will not be intelligible to the naive or simple minded. Black folks must stop reading the world at surface level. Your argument and analysis all along makes sense but only at the superficial level. This world is far deeper than that. We, as black people, don't seem to understand how the world works, that there's competition among the races, and that every race is looking out for what's in their best interest. The Chinese if they do come aren't here to help you. They're looking out for what's best for themselves. I'll leave it at this hopeful that you will see a lot more simplicity again than is conveyed.

ponziponzi:
I understand your point, but I believe the reasoning is flawed. The fact that you’re renting a car from a dealership doesn’t prevent them from selling you a car if you want to buy one — just like a company in China selling semi-trucks for transporting goods doesn’t stop China from helping Nigeria build a cargo railway, if that’s what they need. These are entirely different markets. Similarly, the sale of portable generators to individuals in Nigeria has nothing to do with a corporation working with the government to develop power generation stations, transmission, or distribution infrastructure. That’s why I mentioned earlier that this line of thinking is a bit simplistic.

Your reference to Ajaokuta Steel Company also isn’t really applicable here. The project wasn’t completed for several reasons — including Nigeria’s default on contractor payments, change of governments and their priorities, and the collapse of the Soviet Union, which had been providing both technical support and partial funding. None of these factors align with the usual conspiracy theories often thrown around. Today, most of the steel used in Nigeria is imported from China and India, and the technology at Ajaokuta is now outdated. Without a complete overhaul, the plant simply won’t be competitive in the current global market.

When it comes to building power infrastructure, many countries, especially in the West, have the technical capacity to handle such projects in their own environments. But executing the same scale of work in a country like Nigeria, with its complex security challenges and logistical hurdles, is a different matter entirely.

For large-scale power projects in Nigeria, you don’t just need technology — you also need reliable logistics, a strong supply chain, secured project financing, technical expertise, and most importantly, the willingness of skilled professionals to work in often remote and unstable areas. As of 2025, only China has the combination of scale, capacity, and political willingness to handle all of that.

I'd like to know what these donations are used for during the NBA conference. What will they spend 300 million naira on for a single conference? That conference is no longer meaningful. The NBA lost its voice once they started romancing politicians unlike the days of Alao Aka Basorun or even Priscilla Kuye. These days there are more prostitutes than lawyers at the conferences.

Nice one there.

Exactly the type of "juicy" position that's reserved for Igbos in Nigeria. If this how they want to attract Igbo recruits into their military, it's certainly not enough. Nothing kills the soul of a country more than injustice.

Na bet them bet [apologies to all betters]. Stop calling them investors. What business did they invest in?

I'm not really sure that God has any business with a group of people so clouded with greed and foolishness they keep falling into the same trap time and time and time again. Just give it another few months, and there will be another round of wailing and gnashing of teeth. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

yesloaded:
God will help us in this country

No vex now. Why are you fuming? Why is it so hard to have a civil debate with you lot? Don't worry. I pray we all stay alive. Let's come back to this in another five years or so.

Reflect7:
Nonsense, childish thinking.

China gains far more from a powered up Nigeria than merely somewhere to sell generators to.

Do you know how many Chinese companies are in Nigeria and how many are on their way?

Go to Lekki Free Trade Zone and see what's going on there.

They are not coming here to rely on gen. They are here for the long-term, so adequate power supply is also in their interest.

Nigeria and China established a Strategic Partnership during President Tinubu's state visit to China.

Technology transfer is big on the cards.

This is way beyond selling gens.

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Please sir, read me correctly. I'm not saying that China doesn't have the expertise to fix our electricity needs. Far from it. What I doubt is the incentive for them to do so when we're also the largest market for their generators. There's nothing simplistic about my concern. You don't call someone to come help you fix a problem that this same person is benefitting from. We don't even have to go too far. We've tried this with steel at Aladja & Ajaokuta - telling those we buy steel from to come help us build our own steel industry. How's that going? It's not true that only China can help fix our power sector. I'm not buying that at all. It speaks to some level of naivety and lack of awareness.

ponziponzi:
I understand your point, but it's too simplistic. China is the manufacturing hub of the world, and it makes sense that we import portable generators from them. The demand for generators will remain, even if we achieve reliable electricity, because of the growing needs of various sectors.

To be candid, no other country has the same level of motivation, resources, expertise, and capacity to address Nigeria’s electricity challenges as China. They are the leaders in this field, with no close competitors. Nigeria can keep signing contracts with companies like Siemens, but when the time comes to actually implement large-scale solutions, they will have to turn to those who are capable of delivering.

For example, China added more than 300,000 MW of electricity in just one year – roughly 50% of the total global additions for that period. To put that into perspective, Nigeria’s total installed capacity is about 10,000 MW, Rwanda’s is around 500 MW, Egypt’s is about 60,000 MW, the UK’s is 120,000 MW, and Brazil’s is 250,000 MW. China’s annual addition alone is more than the total installed capacity of most countries, including Nigeria.

To get results, we need to work with those who have the capability to make it happen. Simple as that!

I'm sure they can find some smaller European or Latin American countries that have put problems like this behind them without needing help from China. I'll probably try to do some research on this myelf but countries like Egypt, Brazil & even Rwanda don't have this problem. Was it China that helped them all? Looking at it objectively, how can you call upon the person making profit from your problem to come help you fix the same problem? Does it make sense?

ponziponzi:
Who do you think they can partner with to help solve Nigeria’s energy problem?

I hope one day that this complete lack of awareness afflicting African rulers comes to an end. A disproportionate percentage of all electric power generators imported into Nigeria are from China. But somehow the same China is being looked upon to solve a problem that will hurt their economy if it is solved.

The only way to conclusively prove that this so-called allegation isn't for click-bait motivations is for this lady to name her rapist. Stop playing ignorant.

Kobojunkie:
All I see here is a desperate attempt by you to draw a connection where none exists.

2. There is no law against using the media to make allegations. You are just fishing... stop already! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Everything is connected. If you're seeing disconnection, please check your comprehension. And that's my point. The place to make an allegation of rape is not on a podcast, especially when the person making the allegation is hiding information. Let her go to the police. Only then can she be seen as serious. She's free to allege all she wants. I also have every right to call b*llc**p!

Kobojunkie:
All this story has no connection to this topic, so I am not certain why you keep deviating.

2. I don't know who told you that hogwash, but more importantly, you are not a police detective or investigator, so it does not matter whether you hear 30 sides or 1. This is a criminal accusation being leveled against another person, not a gossip of some sort. She is exercising her right to accuse whoever it is she believes raped her. If he is eventually prosecuted and charged, maybe then you will learn whatever the other side of this you wish to learn.

Good. Social media is a cancer destroying the foundations of society. It rewards bad behavior. It's dangerous to believe every story that we read on social media. It's also dangerous to be doubtful of all of them. Presenting half or incomplete information doesn't help either. Someone making wild claims as this must be willing to name names. That way, whoever is accused will have an opportunity to tell their own side of the story. Besides, even outside the click-bait sensationalism of social media, weren't we told never to decide a case until we've heard both sides? You have a great day!

Kobojunkie:
I have never come across any such!

I am sure you've come across one of them stories where someone says that a podcaster told them to tell certain wild stories in order to drive clicks/engagement to the podcast. And why should I believe the story of someone who says she was raped but won't say who? I wouldn't be commenting if she said who assaulted her. Until it's a full message, it doesn't qualify.

Kobojunkie:
So, yours is to ignore the message because of your particular prejudice against the messenger?

2. It endangers public media because the media has maintained an astute image before it, right?

Not attacking messenger or message. But this idea of going to obscure podcasts to make outlandish claims because this social media click-bait world rewards this model must stop. It's happening far too frequently as to be a problem. It endangers the very idea of a public media.

Kobojunkie:
This tradition of attacking the messenger and not the message... when will we see the end of it though?

Deadbeat podcast wants to go viral. It's becoming a tradition now.

Buhari says he still has the same physical assets npw as he had before his presidency. How are we to know when he resisted every effort to make him publicly declare his assets once he became presidency. Now he can freely lie to us again.

The day Valentine Ozigbo hopped over to the APC after tormenting Anambra people with the false pretense that he's a different type of politician, I wrote this on this platform:

"It always starts like this until they milk him during so called primaries and dump him by the gutter. No principles. No first order values. No belief. Just the opportunistic quest for transient power."

It seems they served him hot breakfast!

Point of correction. Lynxxx isn't his son. Lynxxx is from Delta state, the son of John Edozien. Pascal's surname is Dozie, and he hailed from Imo state.

bignero:
greatest albino man ive ever seen

owned diamond bank
probably mtn nigeriias biggest share holder etc
his son is lynx the rapper

silent billionaire

Can we just give all the land in Nigeria to the hausa/fulani so we can all rest? I remember Femi Adeshina said so when he was eating on Buhari's table. By the way, it's come to me as a surprise that hausa/fulani own Abuja too.

Before you people comment on things you don't understand do some research. Use Google. The fuss is that Trump is taking the world back to 1947 when we didn't even have computers. These retaliatory tariffs were the norm then. But they weren't helping anyone. These tariffs caused uncertainty in global trade leading to major economic dislocations.

Judolisco:
Honestly, I don’t understand all the fuss. If one country decides to impose a 100% tariff on goods coming into its territory, and the other country responds by raising its own tariffs, isn’t that just how international trade works? Both sides are simply protecting their interests..... No more father Christmas... If u want US to reduce, make u sef reduce

Are these people cursed or what? The official minimum wage in the US is $7.25 an hour, though most employers pay more than this minimum. It means someone working for just two hours on this flat minimum wage earns at least $14 which is N21,000 in this illiterate man's calculation. This is just for two hours. If that person works a full 8 hours, that's 7×8 which is 56. In naira terms this will be N84,000. How many people in Nigeria can earn N2,000 in two hours let alone N21,000 or 84,000 a day? This is minimum wage o. Can someone therefore tell this m*r*n that many people in Nigeria cannot afford that N1,500 lunch because they're not earning enough to be able to afford it?

Isn't it mystifying how these ancestors keep coming back like bad coins when you're thinking they're already done and dusted. Yesterday it was George Moghalu. Today it's Nicholas Ukachukwu. The same Ukachukwu from the Obasanjo era? Tufiakwa!

To think that I used to adore this man. He's now morphed into one the most dangerous men of his generation. I am trying to imagine what would be the benefit or significance of this council holding its meeting on the moon! What exactly?

No one deserves to die under these circumstances, and that includes people who are simply looking after their farms and their crops. But who believes this claim that young men in their 20s travel such a long distance just to hunt? It doesn't make a lot of sense to right thinking people, especially given the deadly exploits of cow herders all over southern Nigeria.