₦airaland Forum

We might say let God be the judge. If we value our society and it's development and we love one another, then fake pastors will have no place in our society. Many people would sow a seed of five thousand naira consistently from time to time but they can't help the beggars on the streets. Pastor ea adeboye called about ten people to give a billion naira for a new church auditorium. Why that when we have the poor and homeless? Instead of helping the poor, we fund our pastors' mansions, private jet and other lavish lifestyles.

OtemAtum:
No be today I have been calling baba Adeboye a thief. Enshy, come and see this. Baba Adeboye shall remain a theif till death, just like ogboju ole, Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme.

Christians are to help the poor but a pastor has a private jet worth over 9.3 billion naira and a royce roys, you something is fishy. How can you build a university your members can't afford? Your member was killed, you said nothing. He claims that God has anointed his handkerchief and he can raise the dead with it but when two of his pastors died, he did nothing.

Shall we talk of his failed prophecies concerning diseases for the year 2016 which were found to be scientific articles released around October or November of 2015. . Other fake and vague prophecies as well.

Amberon:
Pastor EA Adeboye is a fraud how?

go to YouTube, search for pastor ea adeboye exposed and you will see videos (part 1 and past 2) about pastor ea adeboye. You will shocked. The evidences against him are concrete just one or two are not sound but I advice you to watch each till the end. The videos' uploader is called spiritual torpedo.

hopefulLandlord:
I repeat, you owe no one any explanation or apology for asking such questions

you are right.

Ishilove:
Do you want to become a MFM member?

Go online, google his name and ministry, or better still, attend one of his services at the Headquarters. You'll be glad you did.

Not at all. I am just curious. Pastor EA Adeboye, whom I have come to see in the light of reality is a fraud and manipulative con man. I saw a video on him with explicit and detailed evidence. Pastors both in America and Africa are involved in religious fraud but in Africa, we are more stupid.

Ishilove:
Why are you chasing shadows where there are none? You create a thread with the sole purpose of trying to smear a minister of God, asking people to come forward to cast stones at a man who is highly anointed.

Martin, be very careful.

It is not like that. I have been to many churches, most men of God who were thought to be genuine turned out to be fake. I just wanted to get any information about him. One must be mindful of the church he attends.

IdeyFindWife:
He's a fraud, eh?

Why the smut-digging upandan?

Pastor siddon jejely; do you want to "otobo" him too?

I nor understand una again o!

I am not seeking to pull him down. I just want to know about him if there is any dark side. There are too many pastors these days. Those who are thought to be genuine turn out to be frauds.

OtemAtum:
What will anyone have to say? The ways ex-members are cheated is only through tithes, offerings, vows and pledges motivated through words of faith, selling of books and cds of the pastor, holy anointing oil and holy water, collecting huge sum of money from members before joining them together in holey wedlock, etc. If any ex-member comes with these as testimonies against Olukoya as a fraud, nobody would even take it as anything, because for now, only less than 5% of the Nigerian population is seeing all those things as cheating and fraudulent.

And concerning staging of miracles, pastors and prophets don't use their church members. They go and hire those ones. And none of those ones can convert and then come here to say how they have been hired in the past, because that's the job they do and they will do till death. Or how will somebody give up his job because somebody asked him to do so without any higher offer?

hmmmmmm, noted. Thanks for your contribution.

OtemAtum:
Why do you expect anyone to come and give somebody up just because you asked here on Nairaland? Will anybody want to do that without you offering some amount of money far far larger than the one they are earning from their business links with a church?

I was not expecting the bona-fide members but those that are no longer in the church especially those who might have been disillusioned.

I am asking those who have worked with him and have first hand experience or anything tangible to say. I am convinced that most preachers are fraud but I have never heard of Dr. Dk Olukoya in scandals frequently. Ex - mfm workers, ex- bodyguards of Dr. Olukoya(if he has one) and those with relevant information, speak out.

haykes:
Gerarahere must every black be a nigerian? proof urself by mention his or her name

They were speaking igbo.

NiceBreezeHuh:
I watched the 30mins+ video five days ago. Heard 80% of what the woman was saying. Clearly the Igbo guy cheated her. There was a time she said she spent nine years of her life with him. That 4 year old boy is their son and autistic.

the heart of man is wicked.

I could not make much sense of what the white lady was saying.

People who foolishly romance metaphysical and supernatural concepts should not be taken seriously.

ChiomaMee:
"Yes I do" .....u sure say u one do English for jamb sha

"Yes I did"

Why haven't I received any message from jamb

yommyk222:
Thanks sir, I appreciate but right now I am jobless and don't go to school too, but anytime I try to do something spiritual like fasting,reading the bible or praying I feel weak, before I do fast 3 days Marathon fast white fast but now if I struggle and succeed to fast I can't even pray 3 minutes prayer, that is why I said I don't know were to start

In such a stranded situation, you don't rush things. Start gradually. Start with 15 seconds prayer every o'clock as you are opportuned. When that becomes part of you, step up to 30 seconds. It's not common that a man becomes a consistent prayer warrior and fasting overnight. You are trying to be a perfectionist(maybe) in your spiritual life but it won't work. Start from the scratch. God understands your plight.

Concerning finding a job, I can't help you on that except by praying. So, rest your self, approach God and ask anything from Him and have faith in Him.

yommyk222:
nothing to feel shy about because problem share is problem solve. I myself know I have not be waking with God faithfully over 20 years now, but I only Starr watching this porn lately last week

that is surprising, your symptoms seems you started porn way longer than this or maybe some sexual activities before you came to porn. The first thing to do is to take away porn, relax don't put pressure on your self mentally, take a break from school or from work and seek the lord's power and strength. Romans 8:1.

yommyk222:
yes

sorry for asking, like how weeks have you been involved with porn? You may pm me if you feel shy of answering on NL.

Lastly, do you notice anxiety in your life?

yommyk222:
my full name is TEMIDAYO SAMUEL actually the watching of porns stuff has not up to a weeks now, I know that I am total lost when I get to this particular point that is why I think advice and help

Okay, above all things, get rid of porn. Do you notice any drop in your intellectual performance? Do you have this feeling of guilt and condemnation in you? Does things around you seem uninteresting? Do you have suicidal thoughts? And finally does it seem as if things are intellectually harder (than before) to comprehend?

OP, I will not lie to you. The centre and foundation of your hardship is that pornography you are watching. Eliminate it and see the difference. I created a topic on this issue. Porn has a devastating effect on the brain. Your symptoms and hardship are not strange to that of a porn addict.

I will like to know your full name and if possible, when and how your addiction began. It is very important.

Muhammad ke? Biko kupu here!

Tolexander:
why wouldn't the exam be very hard?
Instead of you reading your books, you were forming problem child on nairaland!

haba, no chill!

With the way some people go about religion, you might want to ask if fear or love is the motivation and pillar of religion.

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ominilongest:
Z like u are mad,first may weather I believe,una don come with davido again?..if person wan cook jollof rice for party sef e no fit reach 70k....talk less of cooking indomie in his own kitchen,....

@benzema pics. It is true.

thesicilian:
Ikeja, Lagos.

How about you?

Gbagada. Guess we can't meet. My best defenses are caro-kann, French defence and the King's India defense. Are you good at the sicilian?

whirlwind7:
When I saw your comment, first thing I did was to search online for this syndrome.
I must say the way the man's ailment was described is very similar to it. Pay no heed to those who mock you. They are all of the opinion that it is "jazz" at work.

You do yourself a disservice by responding to them. Never bring yourself to that level. NL is filled with airheads and idle mischief makers.

Don't mind the religious and spiritual hypocrites. All they do is romance religious and spiritual concepts.

doskie:
i play chess. i lost the best chess game app with my former phone. bought a new one, opened play store, but cant find that exact one again. its 3d chess. do you have it

I know a friend that has it but it has been a while since I set my eyes on him. Why don't you download droidfish chess app? It is the hardest chess app I have played. Chess free is also good.

doskie:
do you?

I play chess.

philip0906:
I might have had same submission, months back. I spent 4 months in Benin January - April, and can tell you that all you hear about Benin, are no exaggerations. I'm not into all that superstition, but the evil I witnessed first hand during my stay there, is story for another day.
That's the exact reason why the posters before you made those submissions.

what did you experience? Say it and see if it can't be explained naturally.

thesicilian:
Yes I do. Interested in a "chess date"?

where do you stay? I could come over to play chess.

nerodenero:
Nigerian Pastors will never try this. It can only happen in Kenya, Zimbabwe and that xenophobic country. Our pastors love life, they don't practice what they preach

you can say that again.