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Raaven:
heavy maintenance cycle in russia for algerian sukhoi 30 MKA .

this kind of periodic maintenance, change of some parts, motors ect .. is also included in the calculation of the cost of Flight per hour

Please don't tell majority of the jets goes to Russia for maintenance..
Isn't there or shouldn't there be clause that allows some maintenance to be done in Algeria..
Or shouldn't they teach the Algeria airforce how to maintain the jets to some extent

lebuhsi:
Yes, and Erdogan wants to expand turkey's geopolitical power in Nostalgia of the Ottoman days. Turkey's activities and meddling in Libya, Syria, Azerbaijan, and the Mediterranean Sea have significantly increased in the last 5 years.

And in all these countries they are stepping on Russia toes and putin doesn't seem bothered

kemicalreact:
You sabi Erdogan . From my interaction with a lot of Turkish citizens online, a lot of them seem to hate Erdogan, but they support his foreign policy wholeheartedly.

Russia was called by Assad into Syria,iran entered the picture via Russia.. Turkey entered the picture via US. The US pulled out I expected turkey influence to reduce.. But no erdogan wants to lock horns with Russia

Flango:


I just feel sad for my club Milan. Now that the years of building is paying off, the players are coming of age, key players are now running out of contract. The harsh reality is that as these players become very good, they start thinking of more money. Even if they don't like money, their agent go carry the matter for head.

It may be expensive to keep all of them, but I hope Donnarumma stays. Even if it means letting Zlatan and Cahanoglu go

Donnarumma will still leave the club..
I. Would prefer zlatan a year or two

kemicalreact:
I agree with you. You Turkey has to deal with the PKK/SDF problem in Syria and Iraq. The funniest part is the US is supporting PKK/SDF in Syria, so Turkey is kinda worried about that.

My own opinion Honestly they are trying too hard too hard to be seen..most of those conflicts they had no business with it especially Syria.. Just Secure your borders

Raaven:
it was in september . a fleet of 6 B52 flight from artic . approched russian air space . ( it said that was a trap , there was behind them two RC-135V/W Rivet Joint electronic-intelligence scooping up data from russian radars and communications ) . to read https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/09/04/a-us-air-force-b-52-just-set-another-intelligence-trap-for-the-russians/

after that they flew over ukraine, then crossed all of europe. to participate in an exercise in Spain (interception of an American destroyer USS Roosevelt ). and went to do small air exercise with the Moroccan F16 and after Tunisian F5 before returning US

In other words trouble dey sleep yanga dey wake am

kemicalreact:
Turkey's interest comes to play here also.

Honestly all I see is turkey trying hard for the world to see it as powerful force

Raaven:
yes and that mean when you buy a jet for exemple a sukhoi 30 MKI with 60 millions dollar per unit . with their service life of 6000 flight hours ( lets say 30 years) . cost flight per hour is around 22.000 dollars per hour . thats 132 millions per jet during its life service .


for exemple algerian air force have with the last contract a fleet of 74 sukhoi 30 MKA so they spent around 4.4 billions dollars to buy them and they will spend around 9.7 billions in their 30 years of service .

even if its difficult to find the true flight cost per hour , the manufacturer will decrease the cost to sell , the competitors will overestimate the cost. you find a lot of different stats on internet .


for the jf 17 block II with 25 millions dollars per unit , with theirr service life of 4000 flight hours . havnt found official stats but lets says the flight cost per hour is cheap . ( less estimation say 4000 dollars / per hour , some say 14.000 dollars / per hour ) . its another 16 millions dolllars at least . to 56 millions dollars to fly one JF17 .


found this doc for SAAF flight cost per hour in round . that 4400 dollars per hour for fuel and DOD of a grippen ??

This doesn't just give me hope for NAF..
The JF 17 might be cheap in all aspects but one have to wonder in the next 10 years will.it still be standing as a good aircraft at that time compared to the sukhoi..well this is just a case of cutting your coat to your size..
In Africa Egypt recurrent expenditures is gonna be mad

kemicalreact:
IKR. US is kinda worried that Iran might retaliate the death of of Soulemani. The Middle East is too fvcked and complex to be honest. There are too many warring parties.

Nope it's just iran, Syria, Yemen against the rest I should put Qatar but don't really understand them..
The US intelligence isn't even sure of the attack they just guessing

kemicalreact:
I guess this is the one that went to harass Iran in the Persian Gulf

Maybe it's just my thinking but if am Iran I won't be bothered cause I know that's the worst you can do

Raaven:
most modern jets cost thousand dollars per hour to fly .

it cost 44.000 dollars per hour to fly for an F35 they are trying to reduce it to 25.000 dollars for 2025 but according to some source it will be difficult .
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/05/02/one-of-the-f-35s-cost-goals-may-be-unattainable/

for exemple the flight cost per hour for the sukhoi 35 is also expznsiv around 36.000 dollars per hour .
a rafale around 28.000 dollars per hour

for cost per flight hour , the price is not only for the fuel but also consumable supplies , operation and maintenance , system improvements , unit level manpower needed, depreciation ...

and for the F35 with all the new technology on it, difficulties getting spare parts , its not supprising to be more expensiv . for exemple an F35 pilot helmet alone cost $400,000

So. In simple terms for every time an f35 leaves the runway 44,000 usd drops

Toju200:
Incredible... I'm jealous

Yes from US and Middle East funding

Hey can someone explain why it cost 10 thousand dollars to fly an f 35

Raaven:
nice thats a 36D6 radar (code NATO : TIN SHIELD )

I asked a question some months back but not given a sufficient answer seeing this radar have got to ask again.. If a foreign jet enters Nigeria airspace can we detect it and what would be the phase of action if its not a friendly jet

Owoblow900:
Abeg egbon i need group links

Tell any of your friends to share groups to you

Oluwasaeon:
My dear country is still struggling to produce pencils

Whats your problem actually..
Do you find satisfaction insulting your country

dermmy:
Well, I don't know how operable Chadian fighter jets are but i am very sure NAF junks can't take on those Chadian Mig and SU. Mig29 is a multirole and air superiority fighter, NAF Alpha jets, Chengdu-F7 and L-39 Albatross don't stand a chance. Does Nigeria even have a formidable air defence system that can fend off attacks from Mig-29/SU-25? The answer is NO.

Serious countries have S-300/400 in their arsenal Nigeria still pride itself on the old rowland air defence system. I don't even like talking about naija military.

How many countries in the world have s300 and 400..
If you don't know there are risks purchasing those equipment..
First of all I know what a mig 29 jet is am not saying they don't have those jets compared to put alpha and chengdu we don't have a chance..
But be honest with your self will you scared of a country with six su 25 that up to 5 is not operational and mig 29 that aren't even up to 5 but even that 5 the operational ones is low..
Even derby won't be stupid to fight the NA

mysticwarrior:
using recent events to make comparative analysis to come up with justifiable conclusions is acceptable. the confrontations against Boko haram by both armies goes a long way to ascertain which army is more formidable in terms of combat effectiveness.

You used a rare situation that was publicized to judge a war do you know how many battles the Chad army have lost to BH before that scenario....
Dude in no time will the chadian army be ahead of the Nigerian army..
Don't even bring airforce do you think is about have jets lying around in the hanger..
If they are called to service how many is even functional..
If you had called CAMEROON I WOULD HAVE TRIED TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT BUT CHAD, haba

mysticwarrior:
Nigerian soldiers are combat ineffective compare to Chadian soldiers.

Really..
How..
Please if your gonna bring the current BH offensive just don't bother to reply

Incognito403:
Cry for yourself because you have no understanding of what virtue means.

If you call that virtue then your dumb as fvck..
If not for one or two I would have cleared you my sexcapade..
I schooled where Muslims are majority when fasting comes there go avoid boys like lepars but make fasting finish na to spread leg for fvck 360 degree..
So shut the fvck up about virtue yall bunch of hypocrites

Be kind to your people and stop blowing them up

I always pity for women who cover all their body leaving just their eye's..just because they don't want another man to see their skin..
Don't know whether to laugh or cry

Don't of you saying Klopp, did you listen to he's interview he didn't even expect to win..
The award shocked him

Op you Wan buy vibrator Abi sex doll..
This one early this morning you don start with a intimacy gadget..

Op you Wan buy vibrator Abi sex doll.. This one early this morning you don start with a intimacy gadget..

mysticwarrior:
agreed, the Nigerian army is no match for the Chadian army.

So you believe a war between Chad and Nigeria Chad will win

shegzhkn:
Thing is even Mother Russia is awful in this kind of mission, which of her special mission unit will she use in situation like this ??

How many operations do you know the spetsnaz and the alpha group of Russia have carried out and failed..
For you to say they aren't good in their operations..

Nato008:
how many of these assets have state of the art equipment... really do u want to compare those stuffs we parade as drones to those devils America has, do we have drones that can stay 12hrs up in the sky..moreover our C-4 helos are the olden version which don't the required gears for this op plus can how many do we have...because u and I know if a rescue happens it will be in 3-4 locations at once...

If you say we have limited number of assets I will agree..
Our assets are stretched..
But if you say we don't have drones that can't do 12 hours and if you say our helos are outdated then you've been living under a rock bro..
I follow military procurements alot especially ours

Nato008:
I agree but this is not the first time there will collabo between the two and the would send in there air units to aid...plus I think there air assets can fly comfortable from Niger to support any rescue or the will fly to the Kaduna air force there and provide support after which the leave....national pride or sovereignty goes out the window when u can't protect ur people....that is why america Russia and co are called super power because the have the capability to protect there citizens anywhere around the world and strike at there enemies.

You made some points..
Then again the Nigerian army should be cautious