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triplechoice:
Thoughts can occur in your mind from a memory of what is already stored in it, but you choose whether to follow its lead or not

Good, so you agree that you and your mind are 2 different things.
It can do something without your permission.

And sometimes you follow its lead or not 😂

Can your leg do something without your permission?

triplechoice:
Is it wrong to use one's imagination to create something in the mind and then go on to do things to bring it to fruition.


I couldn't understand the reason behind your comments hence my questions

The mind is abstract, it doesn’t exist, so as your Ego.

I told you to tell me the mental “phenomenon” of the mind, you haven’t, keep changing mouth.

triplechoice:
Forget this for now. You are not a professional.

I don’t need to be a professional to think.
Is aristotle a “professional”?

What a mad man lacks is awareness, he lacks an ego.

Triplechoice stop lying i never “agreed” on anything, all ideas arises from the mind, and if you say not all ideas arises from the mind, then you should be able to think consciously of ideas without the need of a mind.
But if you still need a mind to think consciously and unconsciously, does that not mean all thoughts arises from the mind?

triplechoice:
, I'm not a mental health practitioner to answer that question correctly.

Even doctors dont have all the answers . So what can a person like me I say?

That means that list is not correct on the functions of mind and brain.

The mind is the seat of Ego.

Have you noticed that sometimes to ascertain if someone is sane, they first ask that person what his name is?

What do you think a “name” is?

triplechoice:
Thoughts can occur in your mind from a memory of what is already stored in it, but you choose whether to follow its lead or not

Good, so you agree that you and your mind are 2 different things.
It can do something without your permission.

And sometimes you follow its lead or not 😂

triplechoice:
Thoughts can occur in your mind from a memory of what is already stored in it, but you choose whether to follow its lead or not

You know what socrates said about “self control”.
Who are you controlling?
Who is doing the control?

triplechoice:
Thoughts can occur in your mind from a memory of what is already stored in it, but you choose whether to follow its lead or not

How did it “occur” without your control?
Can your leg walk without you doing it, then you will choose to whether follow its lead or not?
So why is it bringing memories without you doing it?
That’s not what control means.



You get random evil thoughts without even thinking about it or having past memory stored.

triplechoice:
You have a mind and everyone has too

According to the function you listed there, why do we have mad people?
Don’t they have brain or mind?

triplechoice:
Where did I say thoughts dont originate from the mind?

You continue to misrepresent me
Why?

“ Can you consciously create new thoughts without your mind?
Why do you need your mind before you can consciously do something?

If all thoughts don’t arise from the mind, then you should be able to do without it and get your own thoughts.”

Stop lying on me, where did i say you said “thoughts dont originate from the mind?”
Point it out.

triplechoice:
You ,not me that has no control over their mind.

Mind is a mental phenomenon, non physical ,that cannot be "located" in a physical space.

You have a mind and everyone has too
https://byjus.com/biology/difference-between-brain-and-mind/

Same you said thought and notions that occur to you without you thinking about them, same you said you have control over it, how did they occur to you in the first place?

Mind is a mental phenomenon.
Phenomenon means observable facts, how did you observe this phenomenon?

Your picture said nothing, or what is the aim?

triplechoice:
Thoughts can arise in the mind from a memory of something already stored in it or from consciously creating new ones either through visualisation
or imagination, which results in innovative ideas

Can you consciously create new thoughts without your mind?
Why do you need your mind before you can consciously do something?

If all thoughts don’t arise from the mind, then you should be able to do without it and get your own thoughts.

triplechoice:
Thoughts arising from the mind suggests one has no control at all over it.

You don’t even have control over your body, command your ears that they should stop hearing, or your eye to stop seeing or that your hair should stop growing.
Your heart beat on his own without you controlling it

Look up what “nature” means

triplechoice:
Thoughts arising from the mind suggests one has no control at all over it.

You know that meditation 🧘‍♀️ people do.
Try it, don’t think about anything, stay still and just observe your mind bringing thoughts you didn’t ask for.

triplechoice:
It's too late now for this.

Thoughts arising from the mind suggests one has no control at all over it.

You have changed the goal post and you know that

Both happens

You just keep whining instead of facing the discussion.

Yes you don’t have total control of your mind, where is the mind located in the body?

You have never heard some people say “my mind is driving me crazy”?

I didn’t change anything, this is baby food discussion.

triplechoice:
And again, show me where I said you don't need your mind to think

And again, show me where i said you said it?

I am asking a question, you no see question mark?

triplechoice:
Hey

Yes.
It arises from the mind.

Can you think without the mind?
Why do you need it before you can “think consciously” since not all thoughts arises from the mind?
You should be able to think independently of the mind.

All thoughts consciously or not arises from the mind.

Open your eye

triplechoice:
You are the one ,not me ,that has changed mouth.

You said "arises from the mind" which doesn't mean thinking consciously.

Explain that first before anything else

It’s you that is changing mouth here and there.

Before you can “think consciously” don’t you need your mind?
Can you “think consciously” without your mind?
Why then is the mind important

The reason you are sane is because of your mind.

This is simple

If you can’t think without your mind, then what do youthink the function of the mind is?

Consciousness is been aware of your mind, triplechoice.
Your mind is the seat of your Ego.

triplechoice:
What do you mean by "arises from the mind?

Is it the sane as thinking.

Focus on that and don't deflect yet

Can you think without your mind?

If you need your mind to think, then where do ideas arise from?
A kid can answer this 😂

Stop changing mouth.

Do you need your mind before you can “consciously visualise or conceptualize”?

triplechoice:
Then why trying to put words in my mouth about thinking without the mind?

Where did I insist on that here?

I didn’t put words in your mouth, stop lying on me.
I asked a question. Can’t you see question marks?

Can you think without your mind?

When people say “you are out of your mind” what do they mean?”

can you have ideas without your mind?

triplechoice:
Then why trying to put words in my mouth about thinking without the mind?

Where did I insist on that here?

Then why are you acting like you don’t know what “mind” means.

How do you get ideas from the mind is the same way you get sight from the eye.

triplechoice:
@mayman
Let me take you back to where it began.

Me. Where do ideas come from?

You. From the the mind?

Me. Do we do anything to get it from the mind?

You . they "arises from the mind"


So tell me , what do you mean by they "arises from the mind?

is it the same as thinking?

Can you think without your mind?

When people say “you are out of your mind” what do they mean?”

can you have ideas without your mind?

triplechoice:
Please stop this.

I never said the above

Who said you said it?

I asked a question “Can you think without your mind?”

When people say “you are out of your mind” what do they mean?”

can you have ideas without your mind?

triplechoice:
You are starting to misrepresent me

I ask you a simple question. If you didn't understand it why didn't you say so before now

You don’t understand the question you are asking.

If the “ideas” you are talking about is the one that you “consciously visualize or conceptualize something within themselves and then go on to do things to bring it to fruition.”
Then as you said they come from thinking.

Na me do mistake, I should have asked what you meant by “ideas”.

triplechoice:
Where did I say one can't get ideas without thinking?
You are the one who suggested that with your "arises from the mind

Can you think without your mind?

When people say “you are out of your mind” what do they mean?

triplechoice:
Where did I say one can't get ideas without thinking?
You are the one who suggested that with your "arises from the mind

What does this mean?

triplechoice:
So you agree all along that people do something ,thinking, to get ideas and not that they just "arises from the mind"

Or what do you mean by "arises from the mind"?
The same?

😂😂
You said Where do ideas come from, same you still said people consciously think about something.

You should have framed your question, “where do plans come from”. 😂

triplechoice:
That is very clear.
You don't know what a thought is?

What is the shape of a thought and where is it located?

You said a thought that has occur to you. That means the thoughts is not from your own thinking lol
It’s after it occurred to you, you started thinking about it, yet you said one can’t get ideas without thinking.

“without thinking, ideas just arises from the mind?”

triplechoice:
You don't seem to agree that peoples can consciously visualize or conceptualize something within themselves and then go on to do things to bring it to fruition.

If people can consciously think about something, where then is the “ideas” from? Is it not from their thinking? You answered yourself.
😂😂

triplechoice:
A thought, conception or notion that has occur to you

What do you mean by this?

triplechoice:
So what is mind to you?

Your answer will clear something for me

First define what you mean by “ideas”.

Then i will better understand what you mean by “getting” it.