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lawani:
Ofun Ika The limit of giving
Ofunkaa
Mo ni Oro Amola
Ta ni an mo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni Ogun Lakaaye ni
Orunmila ni kise Ogun Lakaaye
Ofunkaa
Mo ni oro Amola
Mo ni ta ni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni ija ni
Orunmila ni kiise ija
Ofunkaa
Mo ni oro Amola
Ta ni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni Osun ni
Orinmila ni ki ise Osun
Ofunkaa
Mo ni Oro Amola
Tani a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni Osanyin ni
Orunmila ni kiise Osanyin
Ofunkaa
Mo ni Oro Amola
Ta ni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo wa nda oruko awon irunmale to ku
Orunmila ni ki se gbogbo won
O ni ohun Edu Alajogun ni eni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni bawo ni emi akapo re SE le la laye ki won gbo ni ode orun
Orunmila ni ki nmu igba amola igba Omi tutu ATI obi meji ki nma fi bo oun
Ela bo ru Ela Bo ye Ela bo sise

Yoruba concept of Afterlife
Orun/Heaven
Orun has been translated as Heaven. But the truth is Orun and Islamic / Christian Heaven doesn't mean the same thing.
The idea of heaven filled with golden streets, 72 virgins and mansion is Alien to us. Also the concept of Heaven is UP and Hell is Down is foreign to us. infact, we don't have the equivalent of Hellfire in Yoruba language .. The word hell was translated as Orun Apadi. Apadi literally mean "Broken Pot" The original stance of afterlife of the yoruba people is misconceived/altered by Islam and christianity.
So what is Orun?
Orun is a contraction of Orirun.
The word Orirun is formed from two words "Ori" and "Run" Ori is very important to yoruba people, that's why you can't see any Yoruba art or sculpture without the head, sometimes it's just the head.
There are two types of Ori:
(1) Ori Ode (Physical Head)
- used extensively to mean
-- The top
-- The Physical Self(A whole)
-- The Pinnace
-- The highest point
-- The main place
-- The major point
(2) Ori Inú (Spiritual Head)
-- Soul
-- Spiritual self
Used extensively as:
--Destiny
--Life path
--Life purpose

--Life path
--Life purpose
When "Run" means:
--Originated (from)
--initiate (from)
--stem (from)
When you put Ori-run together it means the main place of origination.
The synonyms will be "The Source"
The word doesn't suggest a particular place in the sky.
According to Yoruba belief, when you die, you join your soul group. It might be below the ground, Jupiter, or one of the stars. Orrun (The source) is not a specific place. They believe that when you die, you go back to that particular source you came from. Orun or Orirun is not one specific place where everybody goes.
Orun is just a strong version of Orírun.
There is no promise of mansions, streets filled with gold, praising a deity for eternity while others burn in hell

TheBillyonaire:
Then Islam and Christianity finally dulled your brain to the point you do not understand that you are still a slave.

You are the one playing victim of slavery.
Hope you know islam and christianity originates from abrahamaic Religion, judaism, judaism from yahwism.
Not only are you a slave victim , you are a also a dullard!

the Trans-Saharan slave trade predated Islam. The trans-Saharan slave trade was an extensive system of human trafficking and enslavement that took place across the Sahara Desert in Africa, long before the rise of Islam. It began around the 7th century CE and continued for many centuries, extending well into the 20th century.

Before the spread of Islam, the Trans-Saharan trade routes were already established for various commodities, such as gold, salt, ivory, and other goods, as well as for the movement of people. Slavery was a part of these pre-existing trade networks, and different African societies had their own practices of enslavement before the advent of Islam.

TheBillyonaire:
I do not know if you understand how silly you sound. All over the world, intertribal wars exist and in Rome when you defeat your opponent you take home the wives as spoil of war, it was babaric.

But move across continents to Buy and Sell People is different from war time.

We are talking about Trading on People like Goods. Use your senses.

You are the dullard.
People go around continents to conquer it.
When the moors went to conquer the spanish, it’s from which continent?
You have not heard of mogol empire?
Go and read.

Selling and buying of slaves existed before islam and christianity was even CREATED. Get that to your skull.

lawani:
Your comprehension ability is impaired.

can i be omni kinesis with ifa?

There are many “omni” ooo
Omnikinesis is more powerful than omnipotent gan 😂😂 which your creator is.

lawani:
Your comprehension ability is impaired.

Your reasoning ability is impaired.

See dullard thinking.
“ You yourself you are omniscient with Ifa and omnipotent as well with iseegun if you learn it. Iseegun is still like Ifa because they use formulas. Therefore you have magic and are therefore omnipotent and omniscient”

lawani:
You are yourself are obviously challenged mentally and can not reason clearly.

And at the same time i am omniscience with ifa?

You are lost

TheBillyonaire:
The physical slave method of shipping people evolved into mental slavery. Imagine having to ship out slaves to work for you, but allowing them to live in their countries while working and sending you money.

Use your senses.

There was already slavery centuries before islam and christianity came.

They conquered you same way you have been conquering other tribes.

Read and stop using your senses, it’s dull.

lawani:
You yourself you are omniscient with Ifa and omnipotent as well with iseegun if you learn it. Iseegun is still like Ifa because they use formulas. Therefore you have magic and are therefore omnipotent and omniscient. How much more God?. The existence of magic answers your question. There is no hell. Why would there be hell? You created yourself at the domain of Ajalamopin, so whatever is your destiny was engineered by you.

Repeating jargons doesn’t make it right.

So amazing he needs to kill his son to forgive you.
And even that you still need to believe he killed his son or else you are going to hell.
So lovely

SeriouslySense:
If you say so

This i know the love of God is amazing.

SeriouslySense:
Eternal is literal, he will soon descend from heaven with the voice of the arch angel and the sound of the trumpet, and the dead in Christ will arise first and then we will join them.

But the world will not see him yet, until the great tribulation has occurred, which comes after he takes us away. After the seven years of tribulation, which is Jacobs trouble, then he will come to save the remnant and the whole world will see him.

So i pray for understanding and strength, that i may be wise.

Have you ever sat down and thought what “eternal” means?

Will the world see those that are dead in christ?
And those that are not dead in christ Will remain dead?
Remaining dead is better than eternal to me lol.
Who will he take away after the great tribulation?
And why can’t he save all, saving them from who?

Who did he pay the price to?
People die everyday so I don’t understand how someone is paying for your sins, to who?
Why do you need to believe in him, what does he need it for?
Saved by faith with his blood, what does that mean?

🤣

SeriouslySense:
Will be praying for the Children in Nigeria. When Jesus said it is finished on the cross, he paid the prize for our sins, and all we have to do is believe in him and accept his work on the cross, for we are justified by his blood and saved by faith in his blood.

TheBillyonaire:
@ Maynman

I know you are a willing slave, but your attempt to derail the thread is noted and welcomed, but you can not derail this under my watch.

Islam and Christian are Mind Control Programs of Slave Traders and should be seen as such.

I am not a slave like you, you are a victim slave, you are the one fighting your slave masters for making you a slave.

Before islam and christianity came, slavery was VERY COMMON AND NORMAL in africa.
Get some books and read, victim.

TheBillyonaire:
Islam and Christianity are Mind Control apparatchiks of Slavers. The Slave Masters brought these Religions on our People.

And you are confusing people on the thread?

There was already slavery centuries before islam and christianity came.

They conquered you same way you have been conquering other tribes.

lawani:
What do you mean? I am working with the world powers headed by the US government and I comment on Adeboye's Facebook page with a Top fan status since July last year. Why do I need to doubt information being given to me by global leaders and what I can see by myself? Explain what you mean. My friend in Avrugo is dead. Richard Donald of Abia state is dead etc. Those are real human beings like yourself

You are delusional and not working on anything.

Lawag3:
You saying God can not know every possible outcome is a limitation means God can never be surprised.

I didn’t say that.
I said an omniscience god knows the PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE, he knows who will be in hell before he created them.

He knows everything.
You are the one limiting your god to defend your deity.

CondenseMilk:
Yes I can agree with you on the above. But I want you to understand that the Fulanis found themselves in Ghana and Mali because of the Arab invasion in North Africa.

It was during this conquest that those Fulanis who refused to accept Islam moved towards Mauritania and down to West Africa.

Not all Fulanis are Muslim, there are so many christian Fulanis.


The Muslim Fulanis are the ones whom Usman dan fodio was able to capture and forcefully convert them to Islam through the jihad war

Jargons.
They found themselves in ghana and mali EMPIRE they created

Why can’t you just read and gain knowledge?

lawani:
I have never hidden the real me from anybody from infancy. Then everything started by anybody will always get out of control. That is normal. You can only contribute and any attempt to control will be evil. I want things to get out of control

Everything that was started by people used facts and evidence to it, they were not just assuming.

Salvation from what?
What do you mean by eternal life?
Also pray for the over 100 people that die of malaria everyday in Nigeria, most are kids.

SeriouslySense:
You deserve a reward. Yes it is.

Samson is also a mirror of Jesus Christ himself.

Out of Jesus, comes salvation and eternal Life. And my understanding is so limited so i pray that God give me strength and understanding.

Lawag3:
I used what you used it shows it in it strictest form you understood what I'm saying you are just in denial.

read na.

Without exception or limitations.
Every detail and facts.

Read na

Past present and future, an omniscience god knows exactly the people that will be in hell before he even created them.

Lawag3:
I used what you used it shows it in it strictest form you understood what I'm saying you are just in denial.

You can’t lie to yourself, you are the one in denial.
If i invent something i am automatically omniscienc, i know all pasts, present and future 😂😂

CondenseMilk:
But these are black people na!

Stop lying, no they are not!

TheBillyonaire:
The great news is that my gene has been cleaned up and yours has not. Your children may not likely be free too. You are even ignorant of the origin of the word 'God'.

Wow, Great news for you.
I am not in bondage like you and your children so I don’t need to be freed.

God is a Germanic word gudan, let’s see who is ignorant.
What does gudan mean?

CondenseMilk:
The Fulanis happened to be a tool in the hands of the Arab jihadist. This was because the Fulanis were the first to meet with the Arabs upon invasion into Africa.

Now, the Arabs were able to capture a few of them and subsequently converted them to Islam and this was how Usman dan fodio came about. Fodio was a tool in the hands of the Arabs and was further brainwashed to continue to carry-on the jihad down south.

Please go and read on the Fulani.
The mande people which fulani are parts of created The Empire of Ghana and Mali.
King Mansa is a mande.

Please go and read on it and stop this.

SeriouslySense:
So he said to them, “Out of the eater came something to eat, And out of the strong came something sweet.” But they could not tell the riddle in three days.

The riddle's answer is a reference to an encounter Samson had earlier, where he killed a young lion with his bare hands. When he later returned to the lion's carcass, he found bees had made honey inside it. The "eater" is the lion, and the "something to eat" is the honey. The "strong" refers to Samson himself, and the "something sweet" is again the honey.

TheBillyonaire:
Before Religion came,

Your argument is that Religion came AFTER Slavery. Let me burst your brains now with that Religions are -

As civilization evolved, selling human beings became very much a crime. And the Romans invented Mind Control Programs using the Abrahamic Texts (Ibrahim in Islam is Abraham in Judaism and Christianism).

The mind control programs were code named, Savior Programs - The Romans designed Christianity and it worked, then King James of England modified it and Americans adapted it into the Slave Bible.

Arabs modified the Old Testament and wrote stories of Mohammed and force these dogma on their slave regions and till today, these slaves and the offsprings of these slaves are reproducing and propagating and killing for Arabs indirectly.

Economies of Jews and Arabs are empowered annually from Pilgrimage by their conquered slave offsprings and new recruits.

In essence, the slavery continues and we have Arab Leagues, Islam banks keeping money with the Arabs etc etc.

So Slavery continues and every worshipper of these Religions are slaves of these foreign criminals.

There was already “religion” in africa.
Heard of Kemet?
Alchemy?

There was slavery in “nigeria”, kings had slaves, when you go conquer a place you take their women and children and make them slaves, read yoruba history.

CondenseMilk:
Ok, Now show me a European or American who's name is associated with the word black


Just as you have Dray green

I can show for “white” too.

TheBillyonaire:
It angers me that Africans have forgotten their God, the source of all humans, who designed them first before the albino mutation that gave rise to diversity of progenies who survived the cold ice regions and returned back to kill, enslave and take away of symbols of our past glories.

The word “God” was first used by the Christians to describe their isrealite god, yahweh.
There was never a time “African” worship a “God”.

Is it not a shame that the albino mutation were able to conquer your ancestors and your “God” was looking for how many years now? 😂

TheBillyonaire:
Am I a racist, nope, I simply consider other races as my offsprings.

That’s what Hitler thought too.

TheBillyonaire:
Islam damaged us, Christianity damaged us and we are supposed to know these facts. That is why our History is NOT taught in schools.

Slavery was VERY common in “nigeria” before any religion came.
We even have a term for it in yoruba “eru”.

TheBillyonaire:
When did Arab Slave Trade happen

ChatGPT =

The Arab Slave Trade, also known as the Trans-Saharan slave trade, occurred primarily between the 7th and the 20th centuries. It involved the capture, sale, and transportation of African slaves across the Sahara Desert to North Africa, the Middle East, and regions of the Indian Ocean.

The Arab Slave Trade predated the Atlantic slave trade by several centuries, and its intensity varied over time. It was facilitated by Arab and North African traders who established trade routes across the Sahara to acquire slaves from sub-Saharan Africa. The enslaved individuals were often forced into domestic servitude, agricultural labor, military service, and other forms of exploitation.

The Arab Slave Trade persisted for many centuries and had significant impacts on African societies, leading to the depopulation of some regions and the disruption of social structures. However, it is essential to note that the scale and nature of the Arab Slave Trade were different from the later transatlantic slave trade, which involved the forced transportation of millions of Africans to the Americas.

It's important to recognize and study historical events like the Arab Slave Trade to better understand the complex and interconnected history of the world.

Chatgpt too.


the Trans-Saharan slave trade predated Islam. The trans-Saharan slave trade was an extensive system of human trafficking and enslavement that took place across the Sahara Desert in Africa, long before the rise of Islam. It began around the 7th century CE and continued for many centuries, extending well into the 20th century.

Before the spread of Islam, the Trans-Saharan trade routes were already established for various commodities, such as gold, salt, ivory, and other goods, as well as for the movement of people. Slavery was a part of these pre-existing trade networks, and different African societies had their own practices of enslavement before the advent of Islam.

CondenseMilk:
But the word black portrays a dark color?

It depends on the context you are using it.

people bear names that “portrays color”.

TheBillyonaire:
When did Arab Slave Trade happen

ChatGPT =

The Arab Slave Trade, also known as the Trans-Saharan slave trade, occurred primarily between the 7th and the 20th centuries. It involved the capture, sale, and transportation of African slaves across the Sahara Desert to North Africa, the Middle East, and regions of the Indian Ocean.

The Arab Slave Trade predated the Atlantic slave trade by several centuries, and its intensity varied over time. It was facilitated by Arab and North African traders who established trade routes across the Sahara to acquire slaves from sub-Saharan Africa. The enslaved individuals were often forced into domestic servitude, agricultural labor, military service, and other forms of exploitation.

The Arab Slave Trade persisted for many centuries and had significant impacts on African societies, leading to the depopulation of some regions and the disruption of social structures. However, it is essential to note that the scale and nature of the Arab Slave Trade were different from the later transatlantic slave trade, which involved the forced transportation of millions of Africans to the Americas.

It's important to recognize and study historical events like the Arab Slave Trade to better understand the complex and interconnected history of the world.

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