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TradingGod:
I have nothing to proove to you


Next time don't use Wikipedia as fact because anybody can gain access and edit it to suit their narrative

You can’t prove anything because you are a liar.

Anybody can edit a narrative, edit one and let’s see na

https://www.worldhistory.org/Yahweh/

TradingGod:
So I should edit it and show you so that you can run and go edit it back so that you will tell me that it's the moderators



Lol...baba rest...just admit it......you don loseguard for here lol

Edit it first and screenshot it. That’s common sense.

TradingGod:
According to your screenshot, no moderators willl take down the edited text rather another individual which could be you again can modify it to suit your agenda lol





Baba you just dey jonz anyhow for here

Since anyone can edit, can you edit something now and show me, let’s see who is the real liar 😉

TradingGod:
My gee no want gree say him fvck up

Anyway lets agree to disagree 🙂

Since anyone can edit, can you edit something now and show me, let’s see who is the real liar 😉

TradingGod:
my guy often does not mean always, which means you can change something and no one might know even the moderator might not know it



My guy just admit say you lie,

Can you mention just one that was change and moderators didn’t know.
Or can you edit something now and show me, let’s see who is the real liar

My guy just admit sey you dey worship israelite god .

From world history
https://www.worldhistory.org/Yahweh/

TradingGod:
it's open to all and can be modified and edited by anyone.

And it has moderators that approve or reject it.
What do you think “Wikipedia” means? What’s the definition?

TradingGod:
Why you dey lie pass satan

Even satan go fear for this your lie 🤭🤭🤭🤭

Can’t you read?
The “satan” that’s found only in your religion is smarter than this

TradingGod:
How pathetic you mock Christianity because you feel that their scripture was forged

But you are bringing a fact from Wikipedia that can be edited by you

Is that not hypocrisy?

How pathetic you base your life on jewish books that have been forged and edited.

Wikipedia has moderators, any illiterate can’t just wake up and edit it.

Why don’t you dispute the fact?
That’s common sense

TradingGod:
Lol

The reason Christians learn from Judiasm is because Jesus Christ keep picking up scripture from there to teach His message Here on earth


And the storyline of Judiasm point to the death and resurrection of Christ


Now Christianity is living a new life given to you by Jesus Christ when you surrendered your life to Him and pledged your Loyalty to HIM alone.

Now Christianity is not a religion but a new lifestyle or mindset or orientation
But Christianity has a religion and that religion is called LOVE

unfortunately many Christians don't practice LOVE as a religion

Jesus Christ doesn’t exist in judaism, what story line point to what? Stop lying!
How come your lord exist only in forged books?
Christianity is gotten from Chrestianity.
Scriptures means writings, you mean jewish writings?
Yahweh is a mere israelite deity. He even has parents!

TradingGod:
Lol, I wonder how a forged document could hold so much truth that can not be disputed till today

So much “truth” among his believers.
Even the tanakh Christians borrowed from judaism is also forged.
Like i said outside New Testament, your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist.

TradingGod:
Lol......is the new tatstemenent a lie?

The first New Testament called codex sinaicticus is the most edited and corrected document in history.
You should read about your religion and israelite gods lol

TradingGod:
He is not the isrealite God, He is the God of the universe

He chooses the isrealite because of Abraham their father that believed in Him over millions of people on earth that did not believe in Him


Him sticking with the isrealites even when the isrealites turn their back on Him is because of the Covenant He made with their Father Abraham

Yahweh is one of the abrahamaic gods.
What century was this abraham alive?

TradingGod:
but did lugard cime back from the dead ?

No. Show me evidence of anyone coming back to life, please don’t quote the same New Testament, that’s the only place your lord exist.

TradingGod:
JESUS IS LORD
LORD IS YAHWEH


the same LORD that spoke to Abraham, Moses and David is the same LORD that came down as Jesus Christ

Lugard too is a Lord.
All the people you are mentioning are from middle east, are you worshipping yahweh, the israelite god?

TradingGod:
In the beginning He was known as THE TRUTH


When He came down to earth to pay for Man disobedience and ignorance He came as JESUS CHRIST


the people of the old tatstemenent knew Him as Yahweh


A lot of people have tried to know Him but they always miss their way along the way

Some know Him as the universe
Others know Him as Mother nature
Some even call Him Karma




But the Truth is all those names talk about one supreme being that is invinclibe to us but still incharge of the inner workings of our world

Outside of the New Testament you are quoting, iesus chrestus doesn’t exist.
Which Old Testament people know him as yahweh? Stop lying.

TradingGod:
knowledge created the world


For example a land might look like a wasteland today, but with the knowledge of an architect, that wasteland could become a shopping mall tomorrow


Knowledge created every thing we see or hear

Everything was created by knowledge and nothing in this world was created outside knowledge

And LORD JESUS CHRIST THE MOST HIGH IS THE FATHER OF ALL KNOWLEDGE


John 1:1 IN THE beginning [before all time] was the KNOWLEDGE (Christ), and the KNOWLEDGE was with God, and the KNOWLEDGE was God Himself. [Isa. 9:6.]



John 1:2 He was present originally with God.

John 1:3 All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being.

John 1:4 In Him was Life, and the Life was the Light of men.

John 1:5 And the Light shines on in the darkness, for the darkness has never overpowered it [put it out or absorbed it or appropriated it, and is unreceptive to it].

Outside of the New Testament you are quoting, iesus chrestus doesn’t exist.

DeepSight:
Brother, I am tired of saying lets leave it. I have said so almost ten times now. If you think I have no point, I have also said thats fine. I have said no issues, and I appreciate your input. However I will just leave one last question - its a repeated question.

Can a non material thing curve?

This is a simple question. If you dont appreciate why I ask it, thats also fine. If you think its a meaningless question, that too is fine.
I shall not be able to proceed further though, unless something truly tangible, no pun intended, curves in, no pun intended again.

If you are empty then stop quoting me.

Who said the non material thing is curving?
Your link said “Einstein saw GRAVITY as the result of curved space.”
spacetime in the presence of masses is curved due to gravity.

You are yet to make any reasonable point since, even what you posted you don’t understand it. You are using idea of monotheistic religion and science and both won’t mix.

DeepSight:
I guess a thing can curve without being a material thing?
Let it go. Its inconsequential.

I really appreciate your input. Cheers.

spacetime in the presence of masses is curved due to gravity. Any mass in a region of spacetime will lead to a distortion / curvature of space-time.

Read your OWN link and stop cherry picking parts, material fabric bwahahahaha.

DeepSight:
Its no worries my friend. Its not that important.

Understand what Einstein said properly, your argument just keep falling flat.

DeepSight:
Well I'd really prefer that you write, because the attachments cant show up in my responses.

At all events, from your attachment, please note carefully, spacetime was indeed described as a fabric (and yes we get its not ankara). But a material thing nonetheless.

I strongly suggest we leave this discussion because I think it will be very hard for us to even understand what I am attempting to say. Which takes some describing when starting from scratch. To pursue this discussion with you will be torture. I really cant. I thank you all the same.

No it was not described as a material thing, according to the link you sent.
“Einstein saw gravity as the result of curved space. He said that all objects in the universe sit in a smooth, four-dimensional fabric called space-time.“

DeepSight:
I could say the same to you my friend. Its fairly difficult discussing with you.
Anyhow, nevermind.

Some of the ideas I am talking about have taken years to put across to others here. So maybe its not right to expect that we understand one another so quickly or so easily. Cheers again.

You are grabbing to anything right now.

DeepSight:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space#:~:text=Outer%20space%20is%20not%20completely,%2C%20dust%2C%20and%20cosmic%20rays.

https://www.space.com/end-of-einstein-space-time

Essentially, Einstein thought space and time were intertwined in an infinite “fabric,” like an outstretched blanket. A massive object such as the Sun bends the spacetime blanket with its gravity, such that light no longer travels in a straight line as it passes by the Sun.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/954/10-things-einstein-got-right/#:~:text=Essentially%2C%20Einstein%20thought%20space%20and,it%20passes%20by%20the%20Sun.

What exactly is the argument?

DeepSight:
In addition Maynman, let me just say that there is nothing like "empty" space within the universe.

Read slowly.

DeepSight:
Ok I see what you attached. Physical space in this universe is said to have substance to it. Material substance. It is not nothing. This is the subject of my discussion on the difference between space as so described and the intangible self-existent space I speak about. To be clear, this "fabric" (metaphorical or not - and Einstein did not mean it metaphorically by the way) - is not said to exist outside this universe is it? That is the beginning of the point that there exists an altogether different sort of space which is infinite.

Post all your claims. Especially the einstein claim on fabric.
Space is Space, what’s “physical space”?

DeepSight:
Alright, cheers, appreciated, nice chatting. Good morning.

You’re welcome my friend.

DeepSight:
My friend, if you want to remain stuck on the definition of science, I will have to leave you there. Nice chatting.

you are the one remaining stuck.
knowledge is gotten through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained not only LOGIC.
You are yet to make a substantive claim, just assumptions over assumptions.

DeepSight:
Haba. I have said lets leave the point and move on. You want to remain stranded on the definition of science? That's not the topic you know. I still dont agree with you, but I'd rather not get stuck here. The substantive discussion remains.

That’s the beauty of it, you don’t need to agree, it still remains fact.
And knowledge is gotten through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained not only LOGIC.
You are yet to make a substantive claim, just assumptions over assumptions.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ he don do your fellow believer has asked you to hide your differences in your god.
You don't have to blame your grievances on me nah!

Yahweh worshipper Is this how you lie brazenly like your jehovah?
Why are you so desperate and shameless like small boy jehovah?
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MaxInDHouse:
Your fellow believer has apologized so go and hug him and forget about JWs for now!

Yahweh worshipper, Is that how you apologize to your masters in watchtower?
Why you so desperate and shameless like small boy jehovah?

DeepSight:
Look, lets not distract the conversation by quibbling on a pedantic point. Whatever you describe science as is fine. The fact is that in this discussion the relevant usage is the study and observation of the natural world.

As opposed to something like art, literature, philosophy or music for example.
Capisce?

Philosophy is Science. you should look up how “pysics, biology, chemistry and cosmology came to being.” All through philosophy. Physics was formally called natural philosophy.

Science as a word Literally Means Knowledge.
How do you arrive at knowledge? You ascertain knowledge through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained not only LOGIC.

MaxInDHouse:
And i hope you both agree after reading many books on the same subject!

And I hope you continue worshipping your masters in your watchtower that have brainwashed you with forged jewish books.

MaxInDHouse:
Please don't bite me, settle the trouble between you and your fellow believer in SCIENCE!

Please Stop barking and looking for trouble where there’s none. We are discussing with facts and not accepting beliefs complied by a GOVERNING body that owns your life.