Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 3:32pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
Emusan: I ma se oooo Very pathetic Which material is papyrus 137? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 3:31pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 2:53pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
Emusan: Funny ia Papyrus is the materialsused for the manuscripts just like our modern day paper. oo I don't blame you, you just learning this. Which material is papyrus 137 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 1:57pm On Sep 27, 2023*. Modified: 2:15pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
You are desperate, you went to a Wikipedia page specifically dedicated to BIBLICAL manuscripts, look at the definition they gave you. Instead of you to look at the definition of manuscript and codex Ina dictionary and compare it. Emusan: You said it yourself
Here you have it again. It's called codex vaticanus LITERALLY. We hsve thousands of manuscripts, we only havd few codexes. Look up CODEX. Umlaut is not a Dot, don't go and disgrace yourself outside.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 11:28am On Sep 27, 2023 |
Emusan: It's evident you don't know what you're saying. Please look up the definition of "umlaunt", the symbol representing a umlaunt is a dot, umlaunt is not a dot. And a manuscript is not a book, CODEX is a book. They called it CODEX vaticanus.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 11:18am On Sep 27, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 11:14am On Sep 27, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Signs And Symbols Of Satan And His Agents by Maynman: 11:03am On Sep 27, 2023 |
Courz: Occult symbols as shown on Wikipedia.
As a Christian, The symbol, the Tetragrammaton, that you have been brainwashed to believe that it is the name of God by the Fake Jews is actually an Occultic symbol used in Judaism, Kodesh and Kabbala (Jewish Satanism). It is used to summon demons in Witchcraft. Jehovah which is derived from the Tetragrammaton is also used in Witchcraft and high degree Freemasons chant the name in their Rituals.
Make sure you don't perish due to lack of knowledge. If you still address God by that name even when Jesus never addressed him with this name, after knowing this info, that means you have chosen to address the real entity behind that name. I don't think you know what "cult" mean. Christian, look up the "Chi Rho" sign. You are a Dullard, what's the origin of the name "Jesus" 😂
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exposing Reno Omokri lies/ignorance on Trinity by Maynman: 6:16pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
brighly: If Jesus is not God why did God asked angels to worship Him? is e So without "God" giving commands to the angels, they wouldn't worship Jesus. Jesus had no power till his father approved it right? Bye Trinitarian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: No Human Being Will Make Heaven Without Having Jesus Christ. Beware!! by Maynman: 4:04pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Coming125: No heaven without Jesus Christ. Repent today. What a fantasy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 1:10pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: Do you even understand yourself here? 
Says the person who says Codex Vaticanus isn't a manuscript
That's your cup of tea
Illiteracy is bad. Illiterate, we have manuscripts/papyrus, then they complied this many manuscripts into one book called a codex. It's only "late" according to modern standard, they went ahead to tell you only 12 was below 10 century. Says the illiterate that says umlaut is a "DOT"
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 1:03pm On Sep 26, 2023*. Modified: 3:12pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: Then who says they are not the one?
You're too dull.
Your illiteracy sha... 
Illiteracy is bad. They are not late, they are "late" according to modern standards, they also told you that the late manuscript does not contain the comma. You are the Dullard. Trinity was birted in Rome, with the aid of constantine it became universal! Indoctrination is worse |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:56pm On Sep 26, 2023*. Modified: 3:18pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: That is the argument of the modern translations that rejected 1 John 5:7
How is this hard to understand?
Can you imagine! So you don't know yet jump in to Strat saying rubbish.
And the Umluat is a DOT found in between 1 John 5:7-8 on the same Codex Vatican's.
Which that text must have been removed.
Oma se oooo No illiterate, it's modern standards that are calling it "late", the oldest place where it was seen was in 4th century. Codex is not a manuscript, it's a collection of manuscripts, codex vaticanus is 4th century, that's the oldest you can see it, it didn't exist before 4th century Umlaut is not a DOT, illiterate. Indoctrination is ugly
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:49pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: Read the link above to the end before you jump in. They were sects before 380AD, Ebionites were one, hemerobaptis too. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:47pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:46pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: So you just read the first paragraph and rush to comment rubbish.
The link is there, go back and read from beginning to the end.
And the same modern translations without Johannien Comma are called version. Illiterate.
That was the point the writer is making. Olodo.
The manuscripts 1 John 5:7 was found we're considered LATE.
English is hard for you.
Do you understand the point the writer is making?
The is the reason you know, you're real olodo.
The Umluat said to occurred in one of the oldest Greek manuscripts called Codex Vaticanus.
And you are jumping on what you don't even understand. The "late" is just below 10th century, they said it, it's missing in Greek manuscript. What does umlaunt mean, why was it put there? Codex vaticanus is 4th century 😂😂 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:38pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: It's not about number of sect.
My question was, is Trinity a talk among people before 325AD?
Lies!i [
Even Priscillian of Avila80AD quoted 1 John 5:7 and still called a sect. [hre So stop saying rubbish It was about sects, the Nicene Creed who and who were arguing? Send me a link of avila quoting it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:30pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: They agreed it was forged ! So that was the only thing you read from that long article?
Olodo....
That was what Modern translations consider for not ADDING IT TO THEIR TRANSLATION.
The writer is making a point from there.
Haba... English isn't difficult nah
KJV is just A TRANSLATION not another Bible written by another person (people). What else did you read in the article? Translation is different from Version, illiterate. There were English translations before KJV. KJV was meant for church of England lol. No, it said they are "late" according to modern scholars and they said the oldest was just below 10th century. It made mention of other late manuscript, without the asterisk, for you to know this are LATE, and the johanniene comma is not present there. They also showed you a picture showing a umluat, it is English yet you can't understand it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:27pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: But does that mean people don't teach about Trinity before 325AD?
The question is, was Trinity a talk among people before these happened? There were hundreds of sects before Trinity was made official in 325AD, it was not as common as Arianism that's why the council had to be held to clip off Arianism. The Trinity concept originated in Rome. Some of the sects that was later declared heresy after the 325 was Ebionites, cathars, etc.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 12:20pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
MightySparrow: When and how do we have Roman Catholic? Your new testament is from when and how?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 11:50am On Sep 26, 2023 |
Emusan: To God be the glory sir!
Actually, it was a well detailed article by KJV proponents which you can find HERE Did you read your own link, they agreed it was forged lol. "Most Greek manuscriptws containing 1 John 5:6-8 would be considered “late” by modern standards. Of the about 480 manuscripts of 1 John 5, only 12 of these manuscripts are from before the 10th century (Nestle-Aland: Novum" Didn't you see they asterisk the "late" 😂 Also you need to be careful of king james VERSION. Look up how the first edition came out, who Is the king james of england, and hope you know that the first edition of kjv is present in all Masonic Lodges |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 10:10am On Sep 26, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 9:59am On Sep 26, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Athanasius, Origen and co. invited by Emperor Constantine had been discussing the idea of Trinity for years before 325 A.D. What were there references? The claim that IJohn 5:7; Matthew 24:19 were later added in 16th century. What then be promoted the idea?
If you want to discover a lie, don't use another lie as your tool. The funny thing is that the doctrine was a gradual development. It wasn't ratified as it is now in 325A.D.
The apostles themselves initially didn't even know what to teach. They had to convene a meeting where initially five things were agreed upon. It was Paul's revelations that opened up many T The Trinity concept became official d in 325AD, not only that, anyone that didn't accept the doctrine was called an heresy and ex communicated look up the Cathars, the people that accepted th doctrine were called Catholic, Constantine and the edict of milan didn't make ch[hristianity a state Religion, they made Catholic a state Religion, that is only those that followed the trinity concept.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Maynman: 8:51am On Sep 26, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Go and quote Wikipedia na Where Wiki does not give you what you want You find books and articles from critics with no authority Illiterate, go to any wikipedia page, scroll down you wjll see the source and it's references. Animaljah, aja werey, have you read up Midianite hypothesis  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Maynman: 8:44am On Sep 26, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Good job brother. How come I am just seeing this thread now.
I have had arguments with this people severally. They become dishonest whenever they are busted. I am awed by this research.
Thanks so much. You have to argue with modern new Bible Versions too, present them your fact and research. https://www.biblestudytools.com/1-john/5-7-compare.html |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Maynman: 8:23am On Sep 26, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: In a similar vein, should i use the accusation of the Pharisees from the same book you described as a fabrication, to believe that Jesus of Nazareth was not the Christ? Why are you referring to a character of the Bible?  That's the perks of belief, you can believe anything. Do you know why it is called sypnotic gospel.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Maynman: 8:10am On Sep 26, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Cos an opposer in the Bible came out to oppose Paul adds to your argument. Do you now accept the Bible is true?
Well, why not use the Pharisees and Sadducees to support your argument that Jesus of Nazareth was not the Christ since they also opposed him... Abi, wiki no mention them? You're just picky Illiterate, read the conversation and the context they were having. The old testament you have belongs to Pharisees, they were the only sect that survived, your new testament belongs to CHRESTIANS. You are just ignorant of your religion and gods. that's why you have to believe. Jesus of Nazareth NAZARENE is different from Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is a composite character. Go read up Judas of Galilee.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Maynman: 12:32am On Sep 26, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Maynman: 12:28am On Sep 26, 2023 |
[quote author=Aemmyjah post=126021816]This guy brain needs to be tested Tertullus is a Bible character in the new testament and recorded to throw an accusation against Paul The same book you call a Roman fabrication is the same book you quote a character (Tertullus) from another source (Wikipedia) cos that character said something to oppose another character which supports your argumentk Folly of the highest order Jumping to the internet to find articles to support your silly argument but you don't try to comprehend . Tertullus you are mentioning is actually a Bible character  ;j] I You are not thinking.
Who should I quote to oppose a fabrication? I will use the same source now. What exactly are you getting at, explain Which source should I have used for a bible character. Animaljah, aja yahweh.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exposing Reno Omokri lies/ignorance on Trinity by Maynman: 11:19pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
1 john 5:7 is a forgery though.
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Christianity Etc › Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:49pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Go and read about the zealots. The movement didn't start in 66 AD. They emerged from the 4th philosophy sect of 1st century judaism. The other 3 were Pharisee, Sadducees and Essenes. This Judaism movement was started by Judas of Gamala and Zadok the Pharisee in 6 AD. Philos was very much around at that time, did he write about the 4th philosophy One of Jesus disciple was called Simon the zealot.
The idea that Philo doesn't write about political affairs isn't true. He wrote about Pontus Pilate as a Roman governor in Judea area describing him as harsh. Why didnt he write about the zealots.
So Philos wrote about a non Jew Messiah. But didnt write about the Jewish Messiahs. Did he write about Jewish Messiah figures like Judas of Gamala, Theudas and Menahem. Did he write about John the baptist, an influential member of the Essene sect who performed ritual baptism and awaited the Messiah figure. Obviously, he felt their their Messiah was irrelevant to bother about but should have bothered about that of jesus. Why?
It was a pattern where this foreign born Jews elevate a non Jew as Messiah and completely ignore the home Jews.
Read below about Messiah figures in early first century and ask yourself why philo didn't write about them. :What posted said incorrectly called zealots but sicarii, the Dagger murderers. The people that were killed beside your soter were zealots/sicarii s. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Our 3D Reality Is An Expression Of Energy. by Maynman: 10:09pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Flawed. |