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True knowledge can only be attain in Nirguna Brahman, the Nothingness. We only acting as persons.

Socrates said that true philosophers should not fear death because they understand that the pursuit of wisdom and knowledge is a preparation for the soul's journey after death. According to Socrates, the philosopher's ultimate goal is to attain knowledge of the eternal and unchanging truths, which are not perceptible through the senses but are grasped through reason and intellectual inquiry.

“Special knowledge” gotten from the plagiarism of kabbalah or is it cabbala

triplechoice:
He doesn't know the difference between natural body functions and acquired skills.

Thank you for the insight.

Christians once had their own kabbah.


The Christian Kaaba in Najran, located at Jabal Taslal, held significant religious importance for the local population, particularly the Banu Khath'am tribe. It served as a place of pilgrimage and worship for generations. Najran, an ancient city in present-day Saudi Arabia, was home to a vibrant Christian community. The Kaaba in Najran was a sacred site for Christians in the region and attracted pilgrims from surrounding areas. The Banu Khath'am tribe had a deep connection to this religious shrine. The Christian Kaaba of Najran represented the blending of Christianity with local Arabian traditions and beliefs, symbolizing the religious diversity and syncretism that existed in pre-Islamic Arabia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_community_of_Najran

“Cabbala”

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Occultism.

Ahh nothingness

Free masons.

budaatum:
Like you don't need to read the wiki page you posted because it contains knowledge you were born with?

Mayn! If you have not read a book about Ziran, then you are talking ignorantly when you mention it! And you've done that with Plato, which you have obviously not read, which just makes me think you like talking about things you know nothing about.

And for your information, it's Ziran, and not "ziren", and in Daoism it means a whole lot more than just "nature".

I’m the knowledge.

Ziran is a chinese word than means nature.

Of course it’s a mistake, my screenshot said it.

Nature in greek is phusis.
“ Aristotle (384–322 BC) is known as one of the world’s most influential thinkers, and the founder of most academic disciplines, including “natural sciences” such as biology (through his treatises on animals, plants, the human body…) ”

budaatum:
Please stop with the dishonesty. It is unbecoming.

This is a screenshot from wikipedia not my statement.
And the screenshot was talking about ziren, they were referencing him.
Ziren means nature in chinese I don’t need to read someone’s book to know that.

budaatum:
And you therefore presume buda is a member of that group?

Do you also presume buda is a Bibleist because buda quotes the Bible?

Let me therefore quote the Qur'an so you can presume buda is a Qur'anist too.

“The group, an upgrade of free mason is occultic.”
Read slowly.


I saw bible and quran verses in this website

budaatum:
Explain how you can have knowledge of what you are ignorant of please.

Take you. You are obviously ignorant of the writings of DT Suzuki, having not read any of his books, so how is it that you are claiming knowledge of what DT Suzuki wrote?

Are you acting as a person, perhaps? If so, you are obviously not recognising nor admitting your ignorance, and are even claiming you were born with knowledge you obviously lack.

it aligns with Socrates' philosophy and his famous statement, "I know that I am intelligent because I know that I know nothing."

In Socratic philosophy, the recognition of one's own ignorance is considered the first step towards genuine knowledge. By acknowledging what one does not know, it opens the door to questioning, learning, and seeking wisdom. Socrates believed that true knowledge involves a constant process of inquiry, examination, and the pursuit of understanding.

I haven’t mentioned DT Suzuki in my statement 😂

Yes we are all acting a person.

budaatum:
And because he never claimed to know what he had no knowledge of.


I expect this sort of juvenility from triple and I'm very sad to see it coming from you.

Occult means "mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena", none of which buda has claimed to possess.

Please know that not agreeing with you does not mean one does not understand what you are saying.

No, he said, The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing,".

The group, an upgrade of free mason is occultic.

budaatum:
No, May, it's not about being anyone's saguna brahma, but about not talking about things one is not knowledgeable of.

If one talks about things one has no knowledge of, those who have knowledge would clearly see they have no knowledge.

One already has the knowledge bud. We are only acting as persons.

Knowledge is recognizing your ignorance.

budaatum:
That's like saying Maynmann should not talk about things he has no special knowledge of, but I'm certain and hope you'd disagree.

No it’s not bud.
If I don’t have knowledge of it I don’t.
That’s why socrates was termed the wisest man, he knows that he does not know.

So basic, i wish you will understand, well but your occult

budaatum:
So, you have not read D T Suzuki, and are just throwing terms at me that you do not understand but think you were naturally born with the knowledge of?

Well, just so we are clear, buda is buda specifically because buda has studied Buddhism and Zen and specifically the works of D T Suzuki, and was not born with any knowledge that buda has.

Ooh my saguna brahma

budaatum:
"Should" by whom, and why should one? Can or should a person not go and do the work to learn to do heart surgery and also learn to fly planes and be a cobbler if they want to?

Who made this your "should mind their own craft and do their job" rule?

Lol, they should mind their craft.
A doctor should be a doctor and a carpenter should be a carpenter.

budaatum:
Mayn, have you read any D T Suzuki?

His Essays in Zen Buddhism are rather informative on how knowledge is taught and acquired, and are my favourites. They teach the opposite of "the soul will do what it’s supposed to do naturally", and actually teach one to be master of one's own being.

Wisdom is the same, it’s never personalized Bud.

Being? Look up the origin of the word.
The universe is the being.

budaatum:
"For example, the individual who selects one of the professions such as medicine, dentistry, law, the priesthood or any other profession must meet these same prerequisites for success".

Do you see why you wouldn't let me woo does have the "prerequisites for success" in heart surgery to perform heart surgery on you?

When studying for a profession the student must give all of his or her time, both day and evenings, until fully prepared to actively enter the profession. They cannot permit business, social affairs or others to interfere with their study.

And do you see why it is "special knowledge" that no one can possibly be born with and that can only be acquired through dedication, focus and hard work?

As long as you are a doctor you must do your job as a doctor.
As long as you are a engineer you must do your job as an engineer.
Everyone should mind their craft and do their job, no special knowledge.
Knowledge is knowledge that has different forms.

budaatum:
What you Maynmann do is not what you are supposed to do! Nothing commands you to do what you do! You are no one or things slave! Every day you wake up when you have decided to wake up, and everything you do is what you have decided to do.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

The function of living is for the soul, and living is a craft, the soul will do what it’s supposed to do naturally.

Nawa oo

budaatum:
That is what hearts have evolved to do, enable your body to pump oxygen around your body.

But perhaps the God who created you taught it. What do you think?

Exactly an heart is doing what is supposed to do on his own naturally.

budaatum:
You sure as hell would not let me perform heart surgery on you if my claim to knowing how to was I was born with knowledge of performing heart surgery on Maynmann.

What you list above is knowledge that you were taught and acquired and not knowledge you were born with, and it definitely is not knowledge about the universe nor nature outside your own needs. But if you are claiming that's your answer to my question, buda rests.

Justice is doing one own job.
You are not a heart surgeon why would you do a heart surgery on me?
I want a heart surgeon to do a surgery on me not someone that pretends to be one.

Eating when hungry, sleeping when sleepy, and drinking when thirsty—natural bodily functions.
I wonder who taught my heart how to beat

[quote author=budaatum post=124073630][/quote]I’m the knowledge.
I eat when I’m hungry.
I sleep when I feel sleepy.
I drink when I’m thirsty.

budaatum:
Yet, here we are unnaturally trying to force our own opinions on each other.

Please tell me what knowledge you were born with.

That’s still part of nature.

I’m the knowledge.
I eat when I’m hungry.
I sleep when I feel sleepy.
I drink when I’m thirsty.
Everything happens naturally.
In a honey bee colony, the selection of the queen bee is a natural process carried out by the bees themselves.

We are all acting a persons.

budaatum:
For you, perhaps, but definitely not for me for whom almost nothing happens naturally but by me getting off my ass and making things happen.

Today, for instance, I have not naturally eaten anything but what I have gotten off my ass to cook and put in my mouth.

Please tell me what knowledge you were born with.

Everything is happening naturally, one should not force anything.
Ups and downs are part of nature.

I’m the knowledge.
I eat when I’m hungry.
I sleep when I feel sleepy.
I drink when I’m thirsty.
Everything happens naturally.

budaatum:
I think you've gone into that realm you go to whereby further discussion becomes pointless. We went past this stage in a recent conversation, which proved very constructive despite us not agreeing, but this is nowhere close.

You can simple prove your point of course by answering the question you've been asked. But until you do, I'm afraid buda will rest.

Please tell me what knowledge you were born with.

I haven’t gone to any realm bud, you are the one that brings totally unrelated things to arguments.

I’m the knowledge.
I eat when I’m hungry.
I sleep when I feel sleepy.
I drink when I’m thirsty.
Everything happens naturally.

budaatum:
I am not "the knowledge", Mayn. The limited knowledge that I have has been acquired by me studying and learning and none of it was I born with.

You are the knowledge you are only pretending you are not, acting like educated “persons”
That’s why you have to be reminisce.

budaatum:
It learns from its environment, Mayn. First, a bee has to be selected to be the queen, then it is placed in the environment where it learns what to do.

But anyway, please answer my question.

All this processes happen randomly lol, no it happens “naturally”.
The environment you talk about is the Nature.

In a honey bee colony, the selection of the queen bee is a natural process carried out by the bees themselves. The colony's worker bees determine which larva will develop into a queen bee. They do so by modifying the diet of selected female larvae, providing them with a substance called royal jelly. Royal jelly triggers the development of reproductive organs in the larvae, allowing them to become queens.

I’m the knowledge, bud, you are too, so as the queen bee.

budaatum:
It doesn't, Mayn.

It does, bud.
Just as your hair grows naturally.
All your organs work on their own.

No forcing.

budaatum:
Mayn, Plato was wrong, and humans have learnt a lot since Plato. And stop quoting Plato like it's some Bible to be believed please! It's writings to be understood and learnt from.

You were not born with any knowledge of anything whatsoever. But maybe I am wrong. Please tell me what knowledge you were born with.

No bud, plato was not wrong.
The books in the bible are random quotations of people.

I’m the knowledge, bud.
I wonder who teaches a queen bee what to do?

budaatum:
Are you disputing the sun has an effect?

Many might agree with you that "science itself is observation", but I can bet you my last penny that observing alone would not land you on Mars or help you create a computer chip or perform heart surgery, and that much more than observation would be required.

You would not let me perform heart surgery on you just because you've witnessed me observing a surgeon performing heart surgery.


Are you suggesting that a thing is knowledge even if not known?

Knowledge is defined as facts, information, and skills acquired through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject, so it is rather subjective, I'd think.



Thank you Mayn. I have no 'special knowledge' of heart surgery, so you wisely would not allow me to perform heart surgery on you nor let a surgeon fly you in a plane.

Tell me. What if I go and observe heart surgery being performed, would you let me perform heart surgery on you then?

According to my human senses it has.
Is the sun bright because of my sensitive eye?
Is the rock hard because of my soft hands?

Observation is what led to the knowledge of taking people to mars.
A heart surgeon is someone that treats hearts not someone that observes a surgeon experiment.
And the “observation” i am talking about is not this cheap example lol.

I said that our limited knowledge does not stop science (knowledge), scientists don’t have the cure for some illnesses but that does not mean there is no cure to it in science, scientists just have to keep observing.

No bud, you are not a heart surgeon thats why I won’t allow you.

Does observing a heart surgery make you a heart surgeon.
If everyone is doing their job that’s what justice is. 😂