budaatum:


Yet, here we are unnaturally trying to force our own opinions on each other.

Please tell me what knowledge you were born with.

Maynmann:

That’s still part of nature.

I’m the knowledge.
I eat when I’m hungry.
I sleep when I feel sleepy.
I drink when I’m thirsty.
Everything happens naturally.
In a honey bee colony, the selection of the queen bee is a natural process carried out by the bees themselves.

We are all acting a persons.

budaatum:



Please tell me what knowledge you were born with.

budaatum:

Maynmann:

I’m the knowledge.
I eat when I’m hungry.
I sleep when I feel sleepy.
I drink when I’m thirsty.

budaatum:


You sure as hell would not let me perform heart surgery on you if my claim to knowing how to was I was born with knowledge of performing heart surgery on Maynmann.

What you list above is knowledge that you were taught and acquired and not knowledge you were born with, and it definitely is not knowledge about the universe nor nature outside your own needs. But if you are claiming that's your answer to my question, buda rests.

Maynmann:

I wonder who taught my heart how to beat ; )

budaatum:

That is what hearts have evolved to do, enable your body to pump oxygen around your body.

But perhaps the God who created you taught it. What do you think?

Maynmann:

Exactly an heart is doing what is supposed to do on his own naturally.

budaatum:


What you Maynmann do is not what you are supposed to do! Nothing commands you to do what you do! You are no one or things slave! Every day you wake up when you have decided to wake up, and everything you do is what you have decided to do.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Maynmann:
Nawa oo

budaatum:


"For example, the individual who selects one of the professions such as medicine, dentistry, law, the priesthood or any other profession must meet these same prerequisites for success".

Do you see why you wouldn't let me woo does have the "prerequisites for success" in heart surgery to perform heart surgery on you?

When studying for a profession the student must give all of his or her time, both day and evenings, until fully prepared to actively enter the profession. They cannot permit business, social affairs or others to interfere with their study.

And do you see why it is "special knowledge" that no one can possibly be born with and that can only be acquired through dedication, focus and hard work?

Maynmann:

The function of living is for the soul, and living is a craft, the soul will do what it’s supposed to do naturally.

budaatum:


Mayn, have you read any D T Suzuki?

His Essays in Zen Buddhism are rather informative on how knowledge is taught and acquired, and are my favourites. They teach the opposite of "the soul will do what it’s supposed to do naturally", and actually teach one to be master of one's own being.

Maynmann:


Everyone should mind their craft and do their job, no special knowledge.

budaatum:


"Should" by whom, and why should one? Can or should a person not go and do the work to learn to do heart surgery and also learn to fly planes and be a cobbler if they want to?

Who made this your "should mind their own craft and do their job" rule?

Maynmann:

Wisdom is the same, it’s never personalized Bud.

budaatum:


So, you have not read D T Suzuki, and are just throwing terms at me that you do not understand but think you were naturally born with the knowledge of?

Well, just so we are clear, buda is buda specifically because buda has studied Buddhism and Zen and specifically the works of D T Suzuki, and was not born with any knowledge that buda has.

Maynmann:

Lol, they should mind their craft.
A doctor should be a doctor and a carpenter should be a carpenter.

budaatum:


That's like saying Maynmann should not talk about things he has no special knowledge of, but I'm certain and hope you'd disagree.

Maynmann:

Ooh my saguna brahma

budaatum:


No, May, it's not about being anyone's saguna brahma, but about not talking about things one is not knowledgeable of.

If one talks about things one has no knowledge of, those who have knowledge would clearly see they have no knowledge.

Maynmann:

That’s why socrates was termed the wisest man, he knows that he does not know.

Maynmann:
So basic, i wish you will understand, well but your occult

budaatum:

And because he never claimed to know what he had no knowledge of.


I expect this sort of juvenility from triple and I'm very sad to see it coming from you.

Occult means "mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena", none of which buda has claimed to possess.

Please know that not agreeing with you does not mean one does not understand what you are saying.

Maynmann:

One already has the knowledge bud. We are only acting as persons.

Knowledge is recognizing your ignorance.

TenQ:

Lazarus was resurrected by Jesus
The little girl was resurected by Jesus

How many in a million deaths for any reason gets returned back?

Every Christian believe in miracles : a miracle is a temporary suspension of the natural laws

budaatum:


Explain how you can have knowledge of what you are ignorant of please.

Take you. You are obviously ignorant of the writings of DT Suzuki, having not read any of his books, so how is it that you are claiming knowledge of what DT Suzuki wrote?

Are you acting as a person, perhaps? If so, you are obviously not recognising nor admitting your ignorance, and are even claiming you were born with knowledge you obviously lack.

Maynmann:


The group, an upgrade of free mason is occultic.

budaatum:


And you therefore presume buda is a member of that group?

Do you also presume buda is a Bibleist because buda quotes the Bible?

Let me therefore quote the Qur'an so you can presume buda is a Qur'anist too.

Maynmann:


I haven’t mentioned DT Suzuki in my statement

budaatum:


Please stop with the dishonesty. It is unbecoming.

Maynmann:

This is a screenshot from wikipedia not my statement.
And the screenshot was talking about ziren, they were referencing him.
Ziren means nature in chinese I don’t need to read someone’s book to know that.