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Answer this first na, didn’t you make this claim?
Where you lying?

[mwhat’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

Sixfiguresmart:
surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

By who?

Did you notice that allah is a polytheistic god "we"?

You are being a shameless liar, ranting and dodging to save your short prick since yesterday.
Lying shamelessly to defend your deities

Can you answer your previous lies first before moving to another lie? It’s clear you are pathetic retar.ded liar and cannot backup your claims with evidence, you’ve been ranting and dodging since yesterday, didn’t you think before making those claims?

It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

Sixfiguresmart:
You are being delusional and trying the last rescue effort to save your leaking anus.

Should we call allah they? Answer that.

You lack integrity like your Israelite god.

Sixfiguresmart:
Can we stay on the topic? It is clear that you are inept and cannot stay on this topic cos you are profoundly overwhelmed by it and shocked that this came up at all. You are left wriggling with your wet pants. You are looking for every tiny seaweed to stay afloat.

You are desecrating your already desecrated doctrine. Stay on this topic. Is allah a trinity?

Can I majestically refer tp allah as they?

Can you answer your previous lies first before moving to another lie? It’s clear you are pathetic retar.ded liar and cannot backup your claims with evidence, you’ve been ranting and dodging since yesterday, didn’t you think before making those claims?

It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

Are you dumb?
What has wikepedia been founded in 2001, got to do with history.
You were ranting about canonized quran, where did you read it? Why not also read about the masoteric text and Catholic canon which created your New Testament where iesus chrestus is ONLY available.
Bible literally means books, you mean jewish book called tanakh or Chrestian book called New Testament?
And not to forget the earliest and original New Testament called codex sinaiticus is the most doctored and edited document in HISTORY.

Sixfiguresmart:
Wikipedia was founded in 2001 and the Bible was compiled hundreds of years before Mohammed was born. God figure! Take your puerile image away. it makes no sense. Has no depth.

It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

Sixfiguresmart:
Why can't the Saudis reveal it to exonerate the hemorrhaging quran. The same Saudis are telling YOU that that evidence that you are celebrating has 2500 mistakes. How about that?

The Mingana manuscript does not have the damma, fatha, and kasra. It is impossible to ascertain what a word is without those diacritics. One diacritic changed a word into 20 or even 40. How, then was the koran preserved without the diacritics? Who decides what word is it? who decided what diacritic goes for a word?

Meanwhile the Birmingham manuscript PREDATES Mohammed AD 568. Muhammad was born in the year 570. If you add 40 to 570, you get 610 AD. Mohammed died on June 8, 632 AD. It took 25 years to 30 years to compile the quran by Uthman. Which leads us to 660 AD approximately. The Birmingham Qur'an manuscript Radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment on which the text is written to the period between AD 568 and 645 with 95.4% accuracy.
So, Ladies and gentlemen, the canonized Quran was acclaimed to be officially compiled by uthman at around 660 AD. While the The Birmingham Qur'an manuscript Radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment on which the text is written to the period between AD 568 and 645 with 95.4% accuracy. This is absolutely ridiculous. The most absurd claim that I have ever seen on a grand scale.

Typical Christian lying shamelessly grin
Answer your lies first or let’s derail it cheesy

It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

Which begats different doctrines

Typical Christian lying shamelessly

Sixfiguresmart:
can you prove me right? Is allah we or not?
Is allah now THEY?

IS ALLAH A TRINITY?

allah drove adam outta heaven. It is the basic teaching taught islamic kids in masjidun. I wonder how you missed that class. You are here acting ignorant like a 3 year old.

Is allah now THEY?

Answer your lies first or let’s derail it

It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours.

Sixfiguresmart:
Hahahhaahahhaa you know that I know what you know right?

Jumaat this week will not be like last week.

Is it okay to now refer to mohammed as THEY?

Typical Chrestian, lying shamelessly.

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?


Answer then we move on, you made this statements YOURSELF, why finding it hard to mention the verses

Sixfiguresmart:
I beg for your forgiveness. I am so sorry for derailing it.

Now, let us get back to the topic.

Will you refer to allah as THEY?

Is allah now THEY to you?

You derailed by lying.
So apologize for your lies, Christian.

You derailed your own thread by lying.

Sixfiguresmart:
Please Sir, in the name of God, can we kindly focus on the question at hand. I will provide every single detail that you need. From the quran itself not the hadith.
Please, do not deviate or detract. We will treat each detail on a new thread.

Sop making false claims.
Your mouth was running earlier, now bring out the verse you dey shalaye since yesterday!
It seems you have to lie about other people’s religion to market yours.

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religions called?

Sixfiguresmart:
Sir, I am not in a fight with anyone. This is an intelligent conversation. I am not here to placate anyone or be obedient to any rule of thumb.

This question is about the quran but you have utterly derailed to Judaism. You know that Jews and Christians are called infidels yet you stick to their books to save your life. The same books that you claim are corrupted. You never fail to reach out to them for your soul.

Let the quran stand alone. Let the quran explain itself. Set aside those Tanakh and Judais. Abraham bruhaha. Let us Focus on the quran. From your questions below, it is very obvious that you do not even know your beliefs. You have no clue about the quran. You know nothing about islam.

what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here” in judaism
What’s the verse where ONLY Christians and jews are called “infedels”, what are worshippers of other religion called?
Since you know alot about islam, provide verses where you saw all your claims, don’t tell me you are fabricating all these to defend your Israelite god and savior, yahweh.

Sixfiguresmart:
very good! So, do you now accept that the quran was copied and pasted and not a revelation from Jubril? Do you now see why Mohammed asked you to go to the christians to verify the truth?
Do you now believe in the account of creation in the Hebrew scriptures? I say this because Adam fell from heaven in Islam while Judaism believes that Adam was created here. Do you now accept Judaism as a pure religion?
secondly, Christianity does not have the story of creation. It was revealed in the Hebrew scriptures which is a part of the Bible today. Christians saved the ancient copies of the word of God but you guys did not save the qurans that was revealed thousands of years after the hebrews scriptures. Why?
Are you now endorsing the Tanakh? Are we here talking about the Tanakh or the quran? You see why Islam cannot stand without the Christians and the Jews? Do you see what you are doing now, always securing and anchor on the Christians and Jews for safe landing? Have you come to see why mohammed said that you should go to the Christians and the Jews to confirm your faith?

The early and original New Testament created by the Chrestians called codex sinaiticus is the most doctored and edited document in history.
The father of judaism is abraham, and judaism uses torah which Chrestians call “Old Testament” before iesus chrestus was born.
what’s the verse where adam fell from heaven in islam and also the verse where “adam was created here”.
Christianity originates from Judaism.
The tanakh is also called the jewish bible, the Chrestians have their own called New Testament, Chrestians borrowed tanakh from Judaism and called it “Old Testament”.
Which Christians saved ancient words? Bwahahahah.
Most Israelite are judaist.
Where did mohammed say Muslims should go to “jews and Christians to confirm their faith.”

The irony of all these is how you are defending middle east gods, calling “hebrews and jews” as if y’all from the same lineage lol

You have forgotten both you and Muslims worship Abrahamaic gods? Why una dey fight?

Sixfiguresmart:
That is another story. Muslims have loudly discredited both Judaism and Christianity and exalted the quran and islam. We now want to focus on that quran. So, kindly save us some story and directly provide the answer to the question. Surah 56 vs 57 It is We Who created you.

who are the WE?

You are quoting the tanakh, which was copied into the Quran same way it was copied into Old Testament. Y’all are both worshipping Abrahamaic gods.
Read slowly.
You know both islam and Christianity creation story is gotten from Judaism?

This same line: “It is We Who created you.”
Is found both in tanakh, Old Testament and quran, word for word!

Sixfiguresmart:
Surah 56 vs 57 It is We [/b]Who [b]created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?

Kindly tell me who the WE who created Man are .

You know both islam and Christianity creation story is gotten from Judaism?

bagirajoseph:
Yes you heard me right all atheist are confused human being and desperate people looking for an unpopular argument.

Theists are the dumbest worshipping theos.

If you can give me an unsolicited hint, why don’t you tell me the name of the “theological books” you’ve read. Save me the epistle and mention JUST ONE

peggywebbs:
You're lazy.. don't blame me for that. I read and I don't have any responsibility to share my knowledge with you.

You're pissed for some reason I don't understand. I only asked you to further your research. I am reading other topics at the moment and I have no intention on trying to teach anybody anything. Unless you're not educated and I can understand that. The Bible is not that complex and if you want to have more understanding, you must be ready to do the work.

Nagging me on nairaland won't provoke me to argue with you or give you some revelation. I don't believe in exam malpractice, I never cheated my way to get to my position. So I won't encourage laziness.
Because I'm nice, I'll give you a hint on why prophecies are meant to be interpreted and not taken literally. For instance in Nehum 2:4

Chariots dash wildly through the streets, rushing to and fro through the city squares. They flash like torches and dart about like lightning.
Nahum 2:4 GNBDK

https://bible.com/bible/431/nam.2.4.GNBDK

If I were to give your interpretation, I'd have said the Prophet was talking about horses. No, the time he wrote this, cars were not even dreamt of. But this was the old testament and this man who had never seen an engine in his life or even a light bulb.. describe a busy street with many cars on wheels and headlamps on traffic.

Again, let me repeat myself, go and read a book and stop being lazy. It's not easy to be an atheist, you have to do the work. Convince yourself there is no God by reading books and not antagonising Christians online. You're just making mockery of yourself and exposing your ignorance.

You are a shameless liar and an illiterate, you are making claims that you can’t prove, how stupid is that?
Today you’ll be disgraced and exposed as a fraudster with zero knowledge!

You’ve been wailing and ranting continuously since yesterday just because i told you to mention ONE of the theological books you claim you’ve read that nero is not 666/antichrist.

What kind of deity are you worshipping that you are lying so blatantly and shamelessly? Is this the part of “fighting for your god” in which you will do whatever to promote your deity?

The verse you quoted is from tanakh, if you need original translation you’ll convert it to hebrews first, illiterate.

Who is the author you are talking about here?
What century did he/she live?
When was “time of nero”?
“Contested” and “accepted” where? When? By who?
Back up your claims with evidence, don’t just be TALKING, no wonder talk is CHEAP.
If you can’t answer all these, then stop making those ignorant claims, it just further proves why you are indoctrinated Chrestian!, with the way you are going, you’ll worship Abrahamaic gods till you D I E!

peggywebbs:
No I didn't make any bogus claim. I only rejected your conclusion. If I choose to expand on my idea, it won't be under your thread. You're the one who decided to look at Wikipedia for answers not me

At least he provided a source, you’ve been talking and making bogus claims about your religion and deity.

Who is the author you are talking about here?
What century did he/she live?
When was “time of nero”?
“Contested” and “accepted” where? When? By who?
Back up your claims with evidence, don’t just be TALKING, no wonder talk is CHEAP.
If you can’t answer all these, then stop making those ignorant claims, it just further proves why you are indoctrinated Chrestian!, with the way you are going, you’ll worship Abrahamaic gods till you D I E!

peggywebbs:
This is widely available information. It's not a secret. I have books on the history of Christianity, from authors long dead. Nobody directed me or sent me links. I didn't meet any man of God or Pastor or whatever. I was curious, and I decided to start reading. I watched videos, I took it like a project. You want to know, but yet you're not ready to put in the work. You're looking for someone to argue with, someone to play cat and mouse.

The difference between finding the truth yourself and arguing the truth is that it sticks with you. When you know the truth nobody will tell you otherwise. You're not ready to know about 666 or antichrist... you're more determined to gloat that it is false. Nobody can help you believe or disbelief...go and read period.

The time you are using to lay bogus claims without having knowledge of it, why don’t you actually do some reading and save yourself this embarrassment?
Are you afraid of what you’ll find?

And if you make claims you back it up, are you not educated?
Because for educated folks this is the least and simplest thing to do, you can’t be running your mouth but find it difficult to defend your claims, you just being whining since and can’t mention ONE of the “THEOlogical books”. Just ONE, wow

Keep watching morgan freeman videos, he is a great actor by the way bwahahahah

peggywebbs:
No I won't post links, no I won't post book links either. Do the work, if you want knowledge seek it. Wikipedia isn't knowledge. If you're interested in knowing the antichrist dig deeper. The information is open, history books are widely available. It takes months to find answers and not just simply opening a Wikipedia page or some links.

On your search engine you will see more than one information about the antichrist. Those that agree with your idea and those that oppose it. Start from there. Don't come and stress me with your questions. I have done my research, if I want to share it, I'd rather publish a book and make better use of my time.

You won’t post links but you are quick to make false claims?
Isn’t it common sense to backup your claims with evidence? Are you not educated?
Why is it so difficult for you? What you hiding theist?

“It takes month to find answers” answers from rome or where?, Post your references ma’am, where you are finding the “answers” from, for months, since it took you that long that means you have so many references, just send ONE

All my search engines are saying the same thing, prove it otherwise by posting your “theological books”.
Hope you know what THEO in THEOlogical means, Theist

peggywebbs:
Here you're getting closer. This was the point I made in one of my early comments. Revelation is not like any of the books in the New testament. It wasn't written by John the apostle or the early disciple. It had been contested but eventually it was accepted because it was beyond reasonable doubt to contain knowledge that could only come from God.

The author had no connection with the time of Nero Caesar, or the early disciples. So please go and dig deeper and then you can modify your topic.

What century was it written?
Who is the author?
King nero was which century?

Why don’t you post links of your research, TALK IS CHEAP!

How low can you go to defend your deity?

peggywebbs:
He He He...me bring books for you. You just admitted your research starts and stops at Wikipedia. I'm not the one who made a bogus claim that Nero Caesar is the antichrist. I have no duty to provide you with proof whatsoever. If you could raise such a claim, I believe you must have done heavy research on the topic to prove it. Asking for my proof is like telling me to do the work . hence why I called you lazy. If you really want to know the truth, you'll be ready to speak to Israeli rabbis, dig out religious texts, look at arguments from all angles.

But no..you chose the Wikipedia route. No wonder professors warn against lifting research from Wikipedia in thesis. Good luck...not to sound like I'm avoiding, I was very much curious about this topic barely three years ago. I did my research, up to the point of your conclusion...I even watched a documentary by Morgan Freeman, where he too like you concluded that 666 was Nero Caesar. The popular opinion does not make the right one...if you're really interested in knowing what the book of revelation is about, it means you're going to go deeper into the topic with an open mind and without bias.

No Christian will argue revelation with you. Good night.. I've got my week planned.

All these epistle and you can’t mention the name of the THEOlogical books you’ve read.
Lying shamelessly to defend your deity.

iamyungkhalifa:
try the popular dantes works . The epistles of clement, the shepard of hermans to remember a few

I’m talking about history books talking about Judaism , what exactly are all these?

iamyungkhalifa:
unfortunately i dont read books online . I go to the church library and read hard copy. what are your source. I could give you authors name and their works maybe you could find a way to read it out yourself

Yes please give me the author names and their work.
We live in digital age only laymen are not “online” now.
I’m Sure their books are “online” to download and read

what’s suppose to happen to him?
He’s living his life.

Over 100 people die of malaria everyday in Nigeria, shouldn’t you, your pastor and deities be more concerned about that than tithe? Chrestian darn.
When is your deity going to “diminish” the death rate of malaria in nigeria?

iamyungkhalifa:
i did all although i only did little about temple judaism because i already know all are ancient practice and a new way has been given. The ancient was cursed . Remember all the means been mention in revelation because they were teach by the fallen angels. likes of safel, racquel and lot more

Bwahahahah, What are you saying?
You know all ancient practice but you read little on 1st and 2nd temple judaism? How come
Kindly post your sources.

iamyungkhalifa:
when you ask you inner self this question what did you discover ? Yes have done research on judaism . I mean lot of researches

I only discover beliefs and opinions, I simply don’t know.

And you know Judaism is from yahwism?
Which Judaism did you research on?
Rabbinical judaism?
Hellenistic judaism?
Second temple judaism?

iamyungkhalifa:
have you ever question your existence, why you existed in this your present form, the source of your existence, and what you happen if you cease existing?

Yes i have.

Now my question, the books you are basing your whole life on, have you done any research on it?
I hope you know Christianity is from Judaism.
Have you done research on Judaism?

iamyungkhalifa:
you could ask but thats after i ask mine

Okay, monolatrist.

iamyungkhalifa:
can i ask you a question?

Can i also ask you a question?

iamyungkhalifa:
yea but that bible is not complete . Although i'm not here to argue with you . An atheist mind is a reprobate mind. Not yielding, and leads to destruction

I’ll say again, bible literally means collection of books.
We have the jewish book called tanakh, and Christian book called New Testament.
So which one is incomplete?
Also I’m not here to argue with you. A theist brain has been indoctrinated and brainwashed with deities, and if that theist doesn’t think for himself he’ll worship that deity ignorantly till he Dies.
What a life theist are living basing their life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS, i pity their innocent kids

Sweetplum:
Moro n this is back to sender.
And don't you v another pussy image of your mum make I see?
Meanwhile, na so so your life go dry in pains. Remain in pains forever as it dry hurt you, dry pain you. It dry sweet me as you dey wallow in sorrow. See as your life dey burn. Useless, worthless, hopeless idio t from Shashu tribe.
Mentally deranged imbecil e

Deranged dog.
Your mom’s pussy has rotten!, same way as your life has.
Meanwhile, all your whole life will be sorrowful. You’ll remain and die in pains. Nothing good shall come your way. Your parents will mourn over you.
See as your life is doomed!.
Barren, good for nothing, zero destiny LovePeddler worshipping yahweh of shasu tribe.
It shall not be well with you and your family.

Used barren dog!