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[quote author=TenQ post=114091628][/quote]Theist means you BELIEVE in god/gods, as atheist means disbelief
So If you are particular about that god and you now WORSHIP that god out of other gods you are either a monolatrist or practicing hedonism.

TenQ:
Deity is synonym for god!

And God/god/GOD means same.

TenQ:
Atheist: DON'T believe in the existence of ANY God/Deity!

What about Theist?

TenQ:
I wouldn't say I understand your point!

Every Christian is aware that apart from the Creator , other Deites exist and are worshipped.

It is not even required by definition that a Theist worship any deity: it is sufficient for them to acknowledge their existence.

If you turn the above around

It is not required by definition that an Atheist worship any deity: it is sufficient for them to refuse to acknowledge their existence.

Therefore, in the proper sense of definition; An Atheist is one who reject the existence of any deity!

So when they call someone atheist, it means they don’t Believe in the Christian god?
Or they don’t believe in any god?

I already told you, you are a theist and a monolatrist.

tctrills:
good

You know belief comes from Doxa which means opinions?
Heard of orthoDOX?
Doxa is the opposite of Episteme.

Ride on Christian believer

tctrills:
Yes you are right there

I know

tctrills:
its not

to Christian believers

TenQ:
Atheism is an assertion of disbelief in an idea of DEITES existing!

I am aware that atheists prefer to use the stupid idea of LACK of BELIEF rather than a DISBELIEF: as a lack of belief connotes a Gnostic state.

I completely lack a belief that 1+2=34!

A Belief requires an incomplete information or emotional attachment that is sufficient to arrive at a reasonable conclusion of believing.

A Disbelief requires an incomplete information or emotional attachment that is sufficient to arrive at a reasonable conclusion of disbelieving.

A Lack of Belief requires a complete information that rules out the possibility of believing but knowing!

You lack a belief that you are the President of the United States of America! Why?

And what’s a theist?

Heard of theology?

tctrills:
You opinion boss

It’s fact

TenQ:
Disbelief in the idea of god's existence (due to insufficient EVIDENCE)!


A Disbelief is formed when the information is regarded as sufficient to reach a conclusion.

Thus even though atheists define atheism as a LACK of BELIEF, it is a stupid definition because it assumes a Gnostic knowing of the fact of God's inexistence!

God/Gods comes from Theos.

You can see from aTHIEST.
And it’s a title not a person.

So which particular god?
And hope you know you are a monolatrist?

tctrills:
Ok boss, I worship Christ

Different from the one in Nazareth.
Even the person that created trinity rejected him and chose Jesus the Christ

tctrills:
we here you

I know Christian

tctrills:
ok, you and the nazarenes

You and the Christians can worship Jesus the Christ

tctrills:
ok

Jesus was a teacher under Paul leadership.

tctrills:
your opinoin

And the Nazarenes too .

tctrills:
You have interesting ideas. I wish you well with your beliefs. I hope you find happiness in them. But I don't believe them and they are not proven. They are the opinion of a few interesting people.

You can only deceive yourself.

tctrills:
It's up to you to decide which is more Authentic. I have read only the English version of the Quran, I honestly don't remember much about it so I can't tell how authentic it is. But then, you are allowed to believe the scholars that support the bible or the scholars that don't. Its your right. I guess you are not a scholar in ancient Hebrew. So we cant take you as the authority.

So only scholars in Hebrew should be reading tanakh, who uses tanakh? Judaism.
Maybe that’s why they reject Latin Jesus CHRIST.

tctrills:
I don't know what you are saying. Maybe you are mistaking me for another person.

You won’t know, the Roman books you are holding won’t allow you.

It seems Jesus was even a teacher under Paul leadership.

tctrills:
I don't have to believe your scholar. I believe the scholars that translated the bible. Scholars do not always agree but the bible translators were consistent with the meaning of spirit in both testaments

What language was Old Testament written in?
No how you translate there will be some mistakes.

That’s why the Quran is more authentic.

tctrills:
You have your freedom to believe just about anything

The person that created and first defended the trinity reject jesus of Nazareth as same as Jesus the christ. Hmmm

tctrills:
You are not even quoting the old testament. No verse in the old testament says spirit means breath

Was Old Testament written in English?

tctrills:
Spirited means, full of energy, enthusiasm, and determination.
He spoke to the spirits of the dead. who lived in the time of Noah.
Anyway, you've made your point. You believe Christ was preaching to air or breath. I don't agree but I don't know how to argue that Christ was not preaching to air.

See how it’s been used in the Old Testament

tctrills:
Spirited means, full of energy, enthusiasm, and determination.
He spoke to the spirits of the dead. who lived in the time of Noah.
Anyway, you've made your point. You believe Christ was preaching to air or breath. I don't agree but I don't know how to argue that Christ was not preaching to air.

Was he really the Christ?

tctrills:
I don't even understand what you wrote. Are you saying Jesus preached to breath?

Yeah. Weren’t they alive?
What does “spirited” means?
Did he speak to dead?

tctrills:
You don't believe the new testament, how is that my problem. At least we both know where we disagree. Its nice knowing your opinion.

Spirit means breath everywhere except the Roman New Testament, that’s why you are a believer.

Jesus was gnostic teacher.

tctrills:
Check out these verses also. 1Peter 3. 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

He went to preach to their spirit, that’s correct.
Heard of spirited.

What can’t you do when you are spirited?

tctrills:
Luke 24. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Ooh yeah, New Testament by the Roman Catholic?

tctrills:
sorry, I thought it was you. By your definition, when Jesus told his followers to touch him because he was not a spirit, He was telling them that he was not breathe?

What verse was that.

tctrills:
You first said only humans have spirits. Obviously, animals also have breath so you are conflicting. even plants have breath. Hope you know that plants breathe?

Calm down that was not me.

I was just trying to make the discussion more explicit and factual.

SweetVibe:
Which rubbish this one the talk?
Oga shift

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He is the dumbest theist on nairaland.

tctrills:
. Today, I would not argue the meaning of spirit. But whatever it means to you, both man and animal have spirits. Let that be the lesson for today. Next time, we can discuss what a spirit is.

Before you argue meaning of spirit.
First know the origin of the word.
No one is arguing.
Spirit means Emi in Yoruba.
The origin of the word means breathe
In “Hebrew” the language Old Testament was written spirit is breath.
Anything that’s alive has spirit, yeah that ant too.

tctrills:
And you should try to be more familiar with your bible, animals have spirits. Ecclesiastes 3:21

Spirit means breathe.