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OkCornel:
Maynmann, are these Jewish scholars - Maimonides and Judah Halevi wrong to conclude Jesus existed? Or Jacob Emden? Or Moses Mendelssohn?

LordReed:
I think you really need to learn that some people on here use a lot of sarcasm to put their points across.

OkCornel:
He claimed to be the son of man
He claimed he will ascend to heaven.

How many Yeshua in Jewish history have you heard such claims from?

LordReed:
Really? Where has budaatum said such a thing?

LordReed:
But OkCornel is like someone who thinks Things Fall Apart is a historical biography.

budaatum:
The part that causes you to debate, Mayn, and to debate how you do, which for me is like arguing if Ikemefuna was really beheaded by Okonkwo as opposed to the book's role in things falling apart. Some people only ask what, and perhaps who, and don't concern themselves with why and what with and when and how etc etc etc.

For some, Torah, and Mishna and Bible and gemorrah etc along with all books were all written by 'scholars', and in my own opinion its worse to bow down and worship "written by scholars" as opposed to understanding what scholars wrote and why scholars wrote what they wrote and the effect what scholars wrote may have had or may be having, along with what tools (and please don't misliterally read this as any form of paper on ink or chisel on stone) that scholars might have written with and how etc etc etc.

It is my profound belief that even if they don't get to live eternally or end up in heaven as opposed to being food for the worms, whosoever learns these and many unlisted things shall stumble less than those who don't.

And note, other sources to learn such things exist.

OkCornel:
Prachia was totally pointless to include in our discussions to start with.

So back to my point. The Yeshu that claimed to be the [/b]son of man[b] and would ascend to heaven in the Talmud is the Jesus of the New Testament.

Case closed

cornelboy:
Madman don see person wey pass am bwahahahaha

NNTR:

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Mark 8:27-28
'27Then Jesus and His disciples went on to the villages around Caesarea Philippi.
On the way, He questioned His disciples:
“Who do people say I am?”
28They replied,
“Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.”…'

You dont use the poxy Chrestian parameter that doesnt apply to me to define me.
You dont tell me what I am and who I am, that power resides with me
Your limited and handicapped perceptions cant define me.
You cant, so dont get trying to define me. Your toxic self, dont decide who I am. I define myself

On top ignore button activated, I am going to shut the door now, woe betide, the demon and its human being host, if dare mention me again on this thread

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

OkCornel:
Read

OkCornel:
It is the Pantera that lived between 22BC to 40AD that was rumored to be the father of Jesus, That's the one to focus on. The other Yeshus are pointless.

OkCornel:
From your own screenshot, it shows Jesus was “connected” to this Pantera soldier guy that lived between

OkCornel:
Prachia was totally pointless to include in our discussions to start with.

[/b]So back to my point. The Yeshu that claimed to be the son of man and would ascend to heaven in the Talmud is the Jesus of the New Testament.[b]

Case closed

OkCornel:
Prachia was totally pointless to include in our discussions to start with.

So back to my point. The Yeshu that claimed to be the son of man and would ascend to heaven is the Jesus of the New Testament.

Case closed

OkCornel:
Good!

OkCornel:
See how you're claiming "Prachia" and "Pantera" are the same person in your quote and screenshot again?

For the umpteenth time, "Pantera" is not "Prachia"

OkCornel:
And what century was the last generation did the misnah cover?

budaatum:
I am not supporting the Torah nor the Bible nor different meanings humans give to what they read.

The methodology includes but is not exclusive to its writing, its history, its mythology, its contradictions, its untruths, its allegory, its rhetoric, its lies, its reason for existing, etc etc, and how to understand it all and resist or use it if one wishes to.

OkCornel:
Was the entire Talmud written in Moses time?

OkCornel:
Was the entire Talmud written in Moses time?

OkCornel:
Read what you posted there. Was the Talmud "written" in the days of Moses?
Do you know what "oral" means?
Were the additions to the Talmud after 70 AD? yes or no

OkCornel:
Read what you posted there. Was the Talmud "written" in the days of Moses?

Do you know what "oral" means?

OkCornel:
They were debating the Torah & Tanakh. They starting recording their debates (Talmud) after 70 AD.

But according to you, the Talmud was written in the days of Moses. Clap for yourself.

Oya... do something to deflect.

budaatum:
Comprehension is not his point at all. He seems to prefer arguing about the mythology rather than utilising the methodology.

OkCornel:
Your own Talmud was written in the days of Moses abi?

OkCornel:
Lol, now you've resorted to outright lies.
Show me where I claimed Pantera is same as Prachia.

Budaatum, are you seeing this?

OkCornel:
Again...offpoint. Scribes made updates to the Talmud when Jesus of the Bible was alive...even up to 70AD.

By the way, the point which you are obviously struggling to get is, the Jews insulted Jesus by questioning his paternity and claiming his mother was a loose woman. These were rumors. Or are you telling us false accusations cannot be written again?