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lezz:
I just proved you're uninformed by showing you it was SA's idea to refund the money and not Buhari's soliciting and you're changing the topic as I whooped your Soweto ass.

Toyota's Lexus is making money in America as British and Dutch shell oil, are they exploiting americans?

Do you think it coincidental that our GDP rise has anything to do with the mass influx of your companies into our shores, did your companies actually helped Nigeria become the biggest economy in Africa?

Leave here!

you are the one supposed to answer those questions...

lezz:
Bros, abeg, we no be mate in any sphere of human awareness!!! Oya read:[b] A South African newspaper, The Mail & Guardian, reported on Friday that South Africa had begun to work out the process of returning more than R100-million in Nigerian money that it confiscated last year, or clearing the way to sell arms to the West African country.
The Mail and Guardian through diplomatic sources informed that South Africa has begun talks to work out a process to return the money in an effort to start off on a clean slate with the recently elected government of the Nigerian president-elect, Muhammadu Buhari.
South African law enforcement agencies seized $15-million in two batches: $5.7-million that had been wired to Standard Bank and $9.3-million in cash, which was confiscated. It was brought into the country through Lanseria airport in Johannesburg in three suitcases by a delegation said to represent the Nigerian government. In both cases, the money was suspected to be for illegal use.

*President Zuma
Now South Africa wants to use the money to extend an olive branch to Buhari’s government and mend relations between the two countries, which became strained during the tenure of outgoing president Goodluck Jonathan.
“The positive thing about [Buhari] is that one of the people who supported him is Atiku Abubakar. That makes him our man and he will automatically work well with [President Jacob] Zuma,” a government source said.
Close connection
Abubakar is close to Zuma. He was Nigeria’s vice president during the presidency of Olusegun Obasanjo, at the time when Zuma was Thabo Mbeki’s deputy.
“Also, this man [Buhari] is a [retired] military general. It is true that the military needs some beefing up to fight Boko Haram and we should help,” the source added.
So how will Nigeria know that it stands to benefit from an otherwise controversial transaction that had exacerbated tensions between the two countries?
Explained the government source: “Diplomatically you send a signal. Obviously they will have to make a request once they receive a positive signal, but the request will just be an official step to finalising the transaction.”
Buhari is due to take over the leadership of the country after winning the recent elections. Formal talks have not yet begun but South Africa has apparently started sending “positive signals” through its diplomats in Nigeria and to the Nigerian embassy in Pretoria.
Diplomatically favourable
To ensure that the process of returning the money or regularising the sale of arms looks as clean as possible, the Hawks investigation will continue, the source said, but will be managed politically to reach a conclusion that is diplomatically favourable.
“One way is to make the investigators say: ‘Yes, a law has been broken, but it’s true that the government [of Nigeria] is the owner of that money and genuinely wanted to buy arms legally. They might have flouted the rules, but it’s a genuine transaction.’ [We will say] this money does not come from dirty hands or rebels or arms dealers,” the source said.
“We will find a way to regularise the transaction and either return the money or give them arms.”
Nigeria wanted to buy arms such as helicopters and ammunition to strengthen its fight against Islamic extremist group Boko Haram.
Last year, the M&G reported that the head of the national conventional arms control committee, Jeff Radebe, who is also the minister in the presidency, was blamed by his colleagues in government for taking a unilateral decision to try to regularise the sale of arms to Nigeria to facilitate the release of bodies of South Africans who were killed when the TB Joshua church building collapsed in Nigeria.
At the time, Radebe denied it and said the committee had met in October and decided to propose unlocking the Nigerian arms trade.
‘Bona fide error’
The M&G quoted from two letters that Radebe had written to JP “Torie” Pretorius of the Hawks and Dumisani Dladla, the head of the arms control committee’s secretariat, in which he said the failed attempt on September 5 to pay an arms dealer in South Africa “was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria”. “Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error,” he wrote.
This week a government source told the M&G: “What Jeff did may have been unilateral, but it is now an avenue that South Africa is willing to explore. Even when we were doing damage control after your story, the discussion centred around how we can get a positive outcome out of this.”
The committee apparently met after the article was published in November last year and decided to use the return of the money or the sale of arms to appease the new government of Nigeria after the elections.
“After the story, they had to regroup and say: ‘How do we deal with this situation?’ You cannot let it hang forever; you must find a way to conclude it in a way that will satisfy both sides,” the source said.
Zuma has apparently been briefed by ministers who serve on the committee and has warmed to the idea. Efforts to get comment from Zuma’s spokesperson Mac Maharaj and from Radebe were unsuccessful.
Improved relations
Relations between Nigeria and South Africa have not been at their best, particularly between the Zuma and Jonathan administrations.
“[By returning this money] you get friendship, loyalty and an opportunity where he [Buhari] is willing to work with us to lead the continent and speak with one voice.
“Instead of Nigeria second-guessing us all the time, we will compare notes and stop fighting for things like the United Nations Security Council seat that’s not even permanent,” the source said.
“Nigeria is a strategic country that South Africa cannot ignore. It’s a big market. It’s possible South African companies make more money in Nigeria than in South Africa.”
When Buhari took on Jonathan in last month’s elections, Pretoria was already positioning itself for refreshed relations with Abuja.[/b]

as a south African I will never boost about foreign companies making more money in my country than in their own country....JZ said it all,Nigeria is our big market ...exploitation continues!

lezz:
Jacob Zuma desperate to repair strained relation with Nigeria offered to return the $15 million arms deal money to Nigeria without any promoting from our government.

Even Pretoria knows the beginning of wisdom is to enjoy a cordial diplomatic relations with Nigeria

a matured Nigerian will find your comment embarrassing
1.Buhari sent delegates to SA to ask Zuma s support for the development bank position
2.While addressing Nigerians living in SA Buhari indicated that he would request to have a meeting with Zuma regarding your confiscated oil money.

Lezz it is apparent to me that you are immatured thats why you always say things the opposite way ...you are not different from another guy called All4kak who posted a picture of a south African with his wife implying that he is a Nigerian ....lol

ddami:
@JLN115 thinks am a BOY,
@mzilakazi thinks am a LESBIAN,
@dictatorzar thinks am STRAIGHT.,
ahaah DAMI u are dynamic,

FYI:: I love BIG BLACK NIGERIAN D**K,, not some,
3.5 INCH, PENCIL-sized THICK S.A D***,

I pray u can Comprehend DAT my dear S.A fans...

lol..

lezz:
stop making inference. Does the source say so? Or are you lamely trying to justify Zulu soldiers' rape?

you have been unleashing your Hausa vs Fulani thing hiding behind the Zulu word all over this forum...

RudzSA:
township squalor? U clearly dnt no jack about the Europe of Africa ... We are atleast 50 years ahead of Africa ..our townships are cleaner than Lagos . We are beta in evry respect except for churches of coz .. There u take the cup

lol

lezz:
you mean SA is do diversified and you're way behind the rest of the continent in growth?

You mean you're so sophisticated with multiple sources of income and you have been stagnant for years? and still number 2 on the continent?

Zulu boy, it's either you're a grade A daft or a manifesting typical Zulu hypocrisy. Do you want sources of Pretoria worried and jittery how we have smoked you out of the top spot?

Per capita income your Zulu ass, let me you, is the US having the highest figure of per capita income in the world?

You are a buffoonery is Zulu class with your late education. When the largest economies are called, countries with per capita are left behind
What's making China a threat economically, it's her GDP and PPP which is so high as that of Nigeria trumps that of SA.


Oil has been down for over a year and we're still out growing you. Because the Nigerian economy is way more diversified than Zulus will care to admit.

And that's why our economic superiority over you was like a lightening bolt in the heart of south Africans , both her citizens and government as soon as the press announced the perennial king of Africa

you sound like a 2 year old who imagines himself owning a train..

nigerianium:

During the xenophobia saga South African men were interviewed by a Jo'burg radio station and asked why they hate Nigerians, the men especially.

One of their reasons was : "NIGERIAN MEN DATE OUR WOMEN...AND OUR WOMEN CONSIDER NIGERIAN MEN MORE SEXIER THAN US".

The average Ghanaian movie and music producer sees it as an achievement to feature at least ONE NIGERIAN.

You still want more factual analysis to negate your wishful claims, Charlie?

Giants of Africa...and giants between our legs.

I see some wishful claims on your post..

manutdrichie:
R.abbish South African with an HIV AiDS president

not Ebola?

LeSudAfricaine:
Ja neh, ai the reasoning on this site leaves a lot to be desired,lol

lol

ylaa:
Shameless gals every where! y can't the women folk be more sensible? the guys are dressed properly but they are naked. shm

you fail to understand that this picture was taken at the edge of the sea where the girls were playing....

piicity:
I hate south african eh,they want to be comparing themselve wit Us

comparing themselves with the US or you?

lionel4power:
Pls all this south africans should not bring their ignorance to this thread oo. Take it to who has the strongest dick in africa thread. And which mor0n is posting picture of another mor0n on this thread. BTW Nigeria military is holding boko haram at bay and everybody knows it.

don't expose your stupiddddddity...you are not recognizable either

tinkinjow:
Interesting! Was thinking South Africans don't leave their country considering their xenophobic attacks on foreigners. To even think that they've been attempting to enter other land as stow aways...

the fact that the flight was from SA does not necessarily mean that the two passengers were south Africans....it might be your very own men trying to escape extradition

blackpanther25:
South African girls love Nigerian men. LeSudAfricaine, MduZA, RudzSA, see your homegirl as I told you. @all4naija

fake stories by fake people....am not convinced

This Nigerian habit of trying to blackmail South Africa will never work....She is your Master,live with that

idris4r83:
Which fool will even risk his life to travel to a xenophobic country, a country where human lives are not valued, a country that is suppose to b facing international sanctions due to the inhumane atrocities they recently conducted. A country that brought shame to Africa by introducing what is worse than racism. U should even b hiding your identity as a south african. Weather u like it or not, Nigeria is still the giant of africa, We have the population, we have the oil, we have the market, we have a diverse culture and still retains our unity as africans and still welcome other good people from any country.

fantasies

Tocheagle:
TO ALL THOSE USELESS AIDS INFECTED SOUTH AFRICAN CITIZENS WHO INSULTED ME WHEN I SAID IT WAS WRONG FOR FELLOW AFRICANS TO HAND OVER OMAR TO ICC (EVEN THOUGH I DONT CONDONE HIS ACTIVITIES), I HOPE YOU ARE ALL ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES NOW. I DONT CARE IF YOU INSULT ME MORE.
N:B Y'all SHOULD LEAVE NAIRA LAND ALONE & STOP POSING AS NIGERIANS ON THIS FORUM

stop destroying the reputation of someone's business...this forum is not your family pig kraal

KinkyAngela:
Buhari, please tell those Nigerians(Biafrans) to stop peddling drug in South Africa. Tell them to stop bringing the name of the country into disrepute.

amen

sheymoni:
Baba please tell him that any attack on hard working Nigerian living in south Africa won't be tolerated anymore

zuma replies...tell your people not to involve themselves in illegal activities

Octaves:
have you ever imagined how the centre of Durban would look after a Bomb explosion? have you ever imagined how the centre of Durban would look after a Bomb explosion?

why can't you demand the release of your confiscated oil money by planting one?

Octaves:
I'm sure u know South Xenophobistan can't try that shit with Nigeria or else they would be obliterated from the African map. They only do that to small countries that cant fight back. They try to intimidate and look down on other african countries in order to please their western masters who will laugh and call them fools behind their backs. That's y they can attack black immigrants but not the white ones. Apertheid mentality. U guys have to free urselves from mental slavery.

last month SA extradited 8 Nigerians to the US to face the music....by the way if south Africa can confiscate your oil money just for sweet,what can stop them to arrest your president if he is wanted? Your fake muscles will never scare people of the south