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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:11pm On Jan 17
princeabdul:
he's just 3 years into his coaching career, cut him some slacks.
We are saying the same thing.

He has lots of ground to cover.

God help him.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:05pm On Jan 17
Odunayaw:
grin And the very good coaches are?
The NFF is not ready to invest in Grade A coaches.
This won't be the first time we are getting this kind of result, even with the quality in our hands.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:00pm On Jan 17
lbrichman2:
Thank you
Let him stay on
The quality will come to the fore
He should grow in the manner he utilises his players.
He should grow in his understanding of different setups and tactics.
The moroccan coach has shown different approaches In the manner he utilises his players.

The moroccan coach studies his opposition, and like a master tactician tweaks his tactics to win.
We have seen this over and over in this tourney.
This cannot be said of Eric Chelle.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:46pm On Jan 17
Eric Chelle's use of Raphael Onyedika and FDB reveal defects in his understanding of his players.
They are not the bests in the positions he has been utilising them.

These guys have consistently shown how poor they are in defensive duels.
FDB hasn't won any defensive duel in all the matches he started. He kept losing them all.

Raphael Onyedika's numbers are also very poor for a DM, especially in the matches he started.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:07pm On Jan 17
On Eric Chelle, I am not convinced.

Say all you want.

He is a good coach, but he is not yet there.
With all the quality at his call, very good coaches have actually shown their tactical superority over him.

Eric Chelle is a good coach but lacks sufficient depth.
Depth will come with experience and the willingness to learn.
Anyways he is still young with a lot of promise.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:15am On Jan 17
Papi85:
didn’t fit into Chelle new found tactics and formation
I don't think so.

It looked like Eric Chelle's intent was to feature wingers in the Left and Right midfield as seen in the opening game against Tanzania.
Iwobi and Chukwueze saw themselves at those positions respectively and it worked very well.

Against Tunisia we needed a more defensive presence mid pitch.
Frank Onyeka provided that. It worked well, and gave us a more dominant display against a tougher opposition.

Against Uganda, Simon and Chukwueze started on the left and right side of the midfield respectively.

Saying that Chukwueze didn't fit into Chelle's system doesn't sound like the obvious.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:29am On Jan 17
SymphonyRad:
He should get a full run out tomorrow, hopefully
Yes, hopefully.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:11am On Jan 17
AndSunGorilla:
And Ejuke too, sitting on the bench most of the times.
Akinsanmiro's situation is the most serious.
He is a regular for his club.

He hasn't gotten any minute.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:42pm On Jan 16
nairalandankrah:
grin guy you no get joy oo
I get joy oo
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:39pm On Jan 16
Papi85:
if he is better than the starters Chelle would have played him

Him not playing any game signifies that those that played are better than him
What will you say about the neglect of Samuel Chukwueze.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:31pm On Jan 16
Blueelf:
I remember it happening to Nwakaeme that year and bro sqore not to answer callus again

Bro was talking week in and week out for his club but wasn't getting a look in. Same guy has a statue now in Turkey

But our then coach Eohe felt he wasn't good enough and Ighalo was better

What fo I know?
Fairness is a quality every leader must wear.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:04pm On Jan 16
Ebenezer Akinsanmiro is a first teamer at Pisa and very important to his team.
He left his club just to warm the bench at AFCON.

I pray that the confidence of neglected players won't take a hit.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:00am On Jan 15
Raphael Onyedika lost most of his duels, which is very poor for a supposed DM.
He didn't participate much in aerial duels. The ones he did participate in, he lost all of them (this is me now looking at stats)

In one of my posts before this match, I ranked the players who can feature in the DM role, and Raphael Onyedika was the least of them.

And finally to be honest, most of the blunders in Raphael Onyedika performance today can be traced to his footballing at Club Brugge.
This is me being very sincere, I have studied him there.

Raphael Onyedika should reinvent his footballing and never in the DM role.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:37am On Jan 15
TheSuperNerd:
He was seen playing deeper to avoid the Moroccan press in his original position. Onyedika could be faulted for many things but is it Onyedika's fault that Iwobi could not handle the press when Onye gave him the ball??

Did you not see how Ndidi operated?? You think Ndidi took up distribution to the final third all on his own? No, most of his went through Iwobi. Ndidi majorly fed Iwobi... this is what Onyedika was doing.

Iwobi was the reason for 2 dangerous posession turnovers for the moroccans in that first half alone. A thrid one came through again later in the game. because of those turnovers in the first half, Iwobi had to leave that choked zone and withdraw to where he would not be triple or double marked much.

This is simple as day but you just want to pin it all on Onyedika when both lads lost nearly the same amount of duels today and even possession.
How many times was Iwobi involved in duels during the matches that had Wilfred Ndidi.
Raphael Onyedika's poor game reading placed Iwobi in difficult situations.

The most painful part was his poor positioning and movements that made it difficult for him to receive passes from the back.
He was just lost.
He was supposed to be free in order to receive passes, He was supposed to drop deeper to receive passes.

If Iwobi dropping deeper was to escape the Moroccan press, Why was he dropping even deeper than Onyedika.
The act was simple, he was helping another who failing woefully.
Onyedika wasn't helping to progress plays.
He was now looking up to Iwobi to deliver passes to him, and even at that he wasn't identifying free spaces to move into.
Dude killed our game flow, simply put he was missing.

I appreciate your support for him, but his performance was abysmal.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:53am On Jan 15
Eric Chelle's overreliance on fullbacks to provide the needed width will cost us someday, and it has.
They figured us out.

The same way they figured out Jose Peseiro's defensive shape and transitions.

Flexibility and Unpredictability is key.
Chelle has the players.

Like I said before, both Eric Chelle and Jose Peseiro lacks the cutting edge.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:41am On Jan 15
Spainever:
Our system and pattern were countered by the Moroccan coach ,our coach didn't have alternative . He has tried let him continue the job he needs to work on having tactical changes levels. The strength of the Moroccan is midfielders,if we came with Plan the game would have change
When i saw the moroccan 4-1-4-1 i knew trouble was coming to the party.
We will require long balls, but our long ball specialist failed woefully.

Raphael Onyedika is the most skilled passer of the ball in the current crop, but that is just a skill.
His footballing is not yet elite.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:35am On Jan 15
TheSuperNerd:
Onyedika was already doing that and his main receiver, Iwobi was always swamped. So he withdrew. This is also simple.

You cannot blame Onyedika without also pointing out Iwobi's struggles today which resulted in us not dominating the middle.
The main reason Iwobi withdrew was to help build play, he was seen playing even deeper than Onyedika, what does that tell you.
Iwobi wouldn't have played deeper if Onyedika was not failing in his duties.

Onyedika let us down.
There is no way anyone can sugarcoat this.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:26am On Jan 15
I can recall very well how I defended Ndidi on this thread, from calling him a tactician to praising his defensive prowess.
Many times I was the last man standing in defense of him.

We see what we see.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:13am On Jan 15
TheSuperNerd:
Onyedika was already doing that and his main receiver, Iwobi was always swamped. So he withdrew. This is also simple.

You cannot blame Onyedika without also pointing out Iwobi's struggles today which resulted in us not dominating the middle.
Onyedika was doing ziIch.
lt was wonderful watching Iwobi dropping even deeper than Onyedika to receive the ball.

Onyedika's positioning made it difficult for him to even receive passes.
Instead of dropping deeper to receive the ball and try connecting the forward line with his long passes (the best long passer), dude will either position himself between moroccan players or place himself in positions where he can be crowded out.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:00am On Jan 15
forgiveness:
Jidgbo football wey Morocco dey play against our players yet ref blew against us when it was obvious Moroccans fouled.

I never see this kind of poor officiating in my life. Ghanian ref showed bias towards us. Very poor officiating.

Dem suppose get 5 yellows.
Seems like the ref has eye issues.
The medical team should have given hm glasses.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:59pm On Jan 14
TheSuperNerd:
Not true. Iwobi dropped deep to escape the Moroccan press in his normal deep LCM role. Iwobi was swamped anytime he got the ball and lost it on few occasions in the first half which made him withdraw even deeper and at a point was seen playing from the LCB role to try make plays.
Iwobi dropped deep to help build play.
This is very simple.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:54pm On Jan 14
TheSuperNerd:
Very good Sherlock. I guess you also did not see how the moroccan midfield press chased Iwobi way deep. Poor indeed.

Dont worry he is out of the game and we still dont have that dominance so you are just spilling to find a fall guy.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:59pm On Jan 14
I am not saying this to spite anybody, but Raphael Onyedika is the main reason for our lack of dominance.
I tracked his every move, his positioning was very poor for a supposed DM.

In the game of passes and possession footbal movement is key. He is supposed to be the man playing the ball out from the back, but his movements and positioning killed our progression.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:52pm On Jan 14
We might be in need of long balls.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:49am On Jan 14
do4luv14:
Good morning GuyZ

Amen +1today , Happy birthday 🎂🎂🎂 to me 💕💕💕💃💃💃💃🎉🎉🎉
Happy birthday do4luv14, more wins.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:05pm On Jan 13
TheGoodJoe:
In one of the recent seasons of Manchester City, John Stones repeatedly drifted into the midfield to support build up play.

His starting position as a center back, is not as important as him understanding when to drift into midfield and pull back.

I hope this elaborates this.
We are talking about the basics and the fundamentals. This is primary education.

So your interpretation of John Stones movements is that formation is not important, and yet he returns back to his primary position.

Things won't be hard if we stick to the basics and build from there.
Let us not overcomplicate things.

Confusion is not a good companion.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:59pm On Jan 13
TheGoodJoe:
Forget about my understanding. Make your position.
My understanding of football formation at its basics is that a player primary role is determined by football formation.

The simple question is, do you agree or disagree?

We can't discuss how a certain football formation can aid a coach's approach to games, when we haven't even touched the basics.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:48pm On Jan 13
TheGoodJoe:
Your the one that wants to contradict. So my understanding is not in the context. Make your point and then I will concur or disagree.

Just keep in mind I have my understanding and philosophy of it.

So push on.
Before we discuss football formation at a level further from its basics, I want us to arrive at certain basic conclusions.

Do you agree that football formation determines the primary role of a player?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:24pm On Jan 13
TheGoodJoe:
The point is simple.

Formations is not that important.

If players interpret when to attack and defend and do it very well. There will not be any problem.


Meaning Finidi spends more time in players understanding how to interpret when to attack than defend. The formation set up is not as important as interpreting when to attack and defend.

There is nothing wrong in what Finidi said. He is 100% right.

Give a source that contradicts his point.
I am the source that contradicts his point, if he actually said that formation does not matter.

knowing when to attack and when to defend is down to a coach's philosophy and how he plans to win a game.
The timing of a team's attacking and defensive transitions can be aided by football formation.

Before i delve into a more elaborate presentation of my opinion, what do you understand by a team being in an attacking or a defensive mode?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:07pm On Jan 13
TheGoodJoe:
Finidi also did not say formation does not matter.

Finito.
The dissensus counted for nothing if he indeed didn't say that.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:02pm On Jan 13
Goke7:
wow be like e don sign up!
It is very clear that the Moroccan coach has a winning metality.
They are not threatened by disappointments or loss.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:45pm On Jan 13
owbabs:
What if Eric Chelle leaves for Tunisia after AFCON and then the FIFA verdict favors Nigeria over Congo?
We move on.
He is not the best coach in the world, even if he is.

Why will one spend his years in fear and worry.

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