Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:53pm On Apr 04 |
AndSunGorilla: Don't worry, if you know you know. @Papi, una understand abi? Alright. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:54pm On Apr 04 |
Raphael Onyedika's performance against Atletico Madrid on February 18th, had me saying this:Meliforme: Raphael Onyedika's performance yesterday reiterated my analysis of his utility on the field of play. Raphael Onyedika will produce more value playing as a central midfielder and even as an attacking midfielder than he would as a defensive midfielder. Stankovic and Onyedika played a double pivot in midfield with Onyedika drifting into the more offensive areas and Stankovic trailing behind to provide cover.
Raphael Onyedika's three shots were all on target. Raphael Onyedika possesses an excellent passing ability. His five long balls were all accurate, he created two chances, provided a switch of play that was essential to one the goals, assisted a goal, scored a goal etc. His shooting and passing ability will provide a good advantage if he is closer to the goalpost where wingers and center forwards will benefit from his excellent passes of the ball and where he will be closer to taking his shots at goal
A player of his abilities shouldn't be wasted plying a much deeper role. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:23pm On Apr 04 |
AndSunGorilla: All brawn no brain. This is misleading His AFCON performances under Peseiro and Chelle calls your narrative unfair |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:57pm On Apr 01 |
What constant does Frank Onyeka bring to our midfield?
The short answer is: Direct play
Frank Onyeka likes to venture with ball at his feet making progressive carries and forward passes of the ball the very things he wants to do. He is also good at link up play. Those in addition to what he does defensively make him a viable option in many midfield applications.
One of my earliest criticisms of Eric Chelle lay in his initial reglect of Frank especially after he declared openly his penchant for direct play, I believed that if he knew what he was doing, he couldn't have done the neglect. But maybe he decided to have another look at Frank and had a change of mind. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:14pm On Apr 01 |
Papi85: you are 💯 right. To me he is not a bad player but not up to the level he is been hyped here by nerdy in particular You are also right. He is not yet up to that level, but with grooming and strict instructions, he might. His passes of the ball both in the long and short ranges are very elite. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:56am On Apr 01 |
Meliforme: I joined 34 minutes into the watch and throughout my viewing of the match, Raphael Onyedika did not impress me. What exactly does Raphael Onyedika's contribute to our midfield.
When it comes to accuracy in the long and short passes of the ball, Raphael Onyedika is second to none, but what does he even do with those. I have not seen any significant forward passes of the ball. I am yet to see any significant forward carries of the ball. He doesn't open up that much to help build and progress play from the back due to his positioning (is he running away from something, I can't just tell) I have not seen him control or swith play despite his ability to deliver long balls.
Let's be real, Raphael Onyedika owns the skills to perform all the aforementioned acts, but what exactly is his problem? Anyone close to Raphael Onyedika should please wake him up with a slap. He should reward his coach's confidence in him. The quoted post was my take on Raphael Onyedika's performance yesterday also taking into consideration his overall contributions to the midfield for all the matches that has him invested. Below is my take on Iwobi performance yesterday. Iwobi came on and made himself easily available for the backline to give him passes of the ball, helping to transit the play to the midfield with forward passes and progressive carries of the ball. Iwobi was also spotted actively supporting the forwards with his passing and movements with some of his passes intended for lines breaking. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:08am On Apr 01 |
TheSuperNerd: What did Iwobi and Ndidi do yesterday different from what the Onyedika and Onyeka duo showed in the first half? Answer that and you will be taken more seriously because it is clear that their introduction even saw the Jordanians up their game. As if they got even bolder. So pray tell, answer the question and dump this your lazy analysis of always poking at Onyedika who was key to our plays in the first half that produced 3 goals.
Lastly, Funny how you can easily discern Frank onyeka's role yet cannot discern why Ejuke keeps up with his school boy football. Yet according to your "tactical eyes", he is our best winger. I cannot trust such eyes please. Frank was one of our better players yesterday yet he gave the ball away more times than a pro should which makes my point on his limited technicality which I always harped for years. Your english is good, but your temper and manners are quite the opposite. You can't bring me down to your level. It is too toxic. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:12am On Apr 01 |
TheSuperNerd: You just sat down and typed a load of bollocks. All these Onyedika misyarns is so forced and screams pseudoanalysis.
Kindly also comment and elucidate "truthfully" on what the midfield of Iwobi and Ndidi contributed after they came in up until that reckless red card as well. What did they bring to the Jordan game that was different? Pray tell? Coz Jordan even got bolder with that change and we did not threaten as much as we did in the first half.
While at it, also kindly explain why Your beloved Tactically best winger, Chidera Ejuke was not effective in today's game. Oh I forgot, he was rotting on the bench as usual. Anyone in need of a slap na Ejuke and perhaps you, for being so biasedly blind to see the light. You are riled up over nothing, just football insights. I did not mention any other midfielder but Raphael Onyedika, but you decided to bring on Alex Iwobi whose role in the fold has a clear definition, the same as Wilfred Ndidi and Frank Onyeka. I can go on to detail you on their roles especially Frank Onyeka whose contributions are not easily discerned. You did not attack the point that i pushed but decided to bring in distractions. I won't cave in. The stage light is on Raphael Onyedika, what exactly are his unique bringings to the midfield. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:34am On Apr 01 |
FiveFootNinja: Once Jamaica hold ball, there's no logic to their next move. It's just to hoof the ball up to the DR Congo keeper.
Abeg I don laugh tire tonight, make I go sleep. 🤣🤣 They take pride in haram football. They are vying for the no 1 spot in haram football and they might get it. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:27am On Apr 01 |
I joined 34 minutes into the watch and throughout my viewing of the match, Raphael Onyedika did not impress me. What exactly does Raphael Onyedika's contribute to our midfield.
When it comes to accuracy in the long and short passes of the ball, Raphael Onyedika is second to none, but what does he even do with those. I have not seen any significant forward passes of the ball. I am yet to see any significant forward carries of the ball. He doesn't open up that much to help build and progress play from the back due to his positioning (is he running away from something, I can't just tell) I have not seen him control or swith play despite his ability to deliver long balls.
Let's be real, Raphael Onyedika owns the skills to perform all the aforementioned acts, but what exactly is his problem? Anyone close to Raphael Onyedika should please wake him up with a slap. He should reward his coach's confidence in him. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:50pm On Mar 27 |
Cecco90: I am still worried that we don't have an alternative for Iwobi in the middle. We may not get a like for like replacement, but Raphael Onyedika can be groomed into that role. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:14pm On Mar 27 |
Sugarboyy: With all his skills, Ejuke doesn't seem to add anything meaningful to the SE Ejuke has the skills, but the mentality to power through is missing. This is me saying it in all honesty. Victor Osimhen and Ademola Lookman can't take half of the kind of treatment Ejuke receives at Sevilla. During their last match against Valencia, one of the commentators was screaming for his introduction and complained about how Ejuke was waved back to his seat, saying it was embarrassing for a professional footballer. Kelechi Iheanacho endured the same and inspite of his shooting skills, he has seen a downward plunge. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:24pm On Mar 27 |
lbrichman2: Unfortunately he can't argue with the truth Na only English hom go speak, at the end of the day, we all know the truth
I'm almost certain Sevilla will release him Ejuke scored the winning goal against Gabon. Were you not pleased? His lack of playing time at Sevilla is affecting his confidence and self esteem. I |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:55am On Feb 27 |
Goke7: That is why mocking Gala or the Turkish league is so disrespectful as they see the value in an osihmen far above those leagues we think are the best. In fact I know people will come for me but make osihmen go Saudi league to earn mega bucks cos what’s talent without the right value for it.
A player score goals and even create goals for his teammates what else does any club with ambitions want? A messenger or house boy? Thank you for the bolded.Mocking Gala or the Turkish league is so disrespectful as they see the value in an osihmen far above those leagues we think are the best.I was 100% in support of Osimhen moving to Galatasaray. How can a good man look down on such love and valuation for the sake of courting the so called best leagues of the world. Best leagues that couldn't see the best in him. As far as Osimhen is concerned, Galatasaray remains the best team in the world, because only the best can spot the best. Osimhen was angry with his teammates for failing to handle properly a 10 man Juventus because he sees his teammates as the best. They should have pummelled Juventus. Osimhen also showed his regard for Spalleti, for believing in him. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:57pm On Feb 26 |
minfelix: why are people surprised that Juventus played stronger even after getting a red card….Wafcon 2022 we were shown red card twice playing 9women against the moroccans and dragging them to the PK shootout… Juve is a bigger team and a bigger brand than Galatasaray, my only blame on Gala is that they should have not allowed juve score more than 1goal, allow them play you, as the class of barca/madrid that they are then lock up your defense for the rest of the match, couple with they are on home soil, even 2man Juve team should be pressing the life out of Gala… make we no dey pretend as if Juve no pass them by far… Some coaches play to their own strengths and tactical preferences. For these coaches defensive football is not in their DNA. They would rather lose than defend a lead. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:52pm On Feb 24 |
Kog45: What has Diego comment got to do with Osimhen/Lookman Mozambique drama,did you ever see Chelle complaining about Lookman overall display...a player just joined a team and his coach made honest opinion about him but to you Osimhen a teammate was right just cuz of Diego comment...I repeat it una too dey disrespect the boy Osimhen to Lookman: It is not all about goals, it is about teamwork. Simeone to Lookman: We acknowledge your goals, however we are more concerned about your overall performance. If the idea conveyed is still lost on you, then i wash my hands comot your matter. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:54pm On Feb 24 |
Kog45: Una propaganda too much,just to justify Osimhen actions which he already apologized,him añd Lookman have moved on...Diego simple comment didn't criticize Lookman but talking about a player that will understand Atletico style of play more with times but you're trying to center it on what happened against Mozambique...una too dey disrespect Lookman despite his stats said otherwise during Afcon You are the one blind to facts. It is quite unreasonable of you to hint at disrespect. Only if you have known the praises I have showered on Lookman in the past and my praises of him even now. Any one that has known Lookman will record tards of selfishness in his play. And if such a deficiency is touted even by his new coach,, then men like you will cry disrespect. How long have you known Ademola Lookman and his past troubles, and how he has evolved. He can't improve anymore? Diego Simeone acknowledged Ademola Lookman's goals (his stats) but still wants him to improve in his overall play. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:17am On Feb 23 |
Kog45: Diego said honest opinion on a new player who's just adapting to a new system or do you ever seen Atalanta complaining about his overall contributions....now to you Osimhen was right with Diego comment,plz how does it related Osimhen emphasized teamwork, the same with Diego Simeone. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:18pm On Feb 22 |
Subzero0477: # I hope some of you can relate this to Osimhen's outburst during the just concluded AFCON tournament. Even though Lookman's contributions to defense was never in question. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:06pm On Feb 21 |
mank1234: Black men are ethnic bias to themselves but not racist to the outside world. There's a difference between the two.
This is off topic. Ethnic bias is also a part of it, we are talking about how we regard people or things that are different from us. This is all about an inclination to embrace variety and diversity. Some people cannot stand colours and opinions that are distant from theirs. Black men are the worst The Black man is more racist and the white man is mentally tougher. It is only the discerning can see this. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:41pm On Feb 21 |
TheLoneCitizen: Actually white men suffer more But suffer is the wrong word. White men are afflicted more.
The difference is that they don't take the affliction as insult.
Blacks can say white boy or whitie Whites can't even say black boy
Do you remember that story of a Romanian referee who isn't even whiter than the average Indian refers to Webo as "the black one" and the whole world went into a meltdown? That is the inferiority complex I speak of. Being sensitive of your skin colour, because there's no better description for Webo in a crowd than "the black guy".
An immigrant steps into a bus and the whole atmosphere shifts. Nobody wants you to sit beside them just because of your skin colour. That's real racism not this nonsense Vinicius is doing. On the average, the White man is kinder and more considerate than the black man. I say this because I have experienced the best and the worse of the two worlds. I know this might upset some, but my experience is subjective. You are free to count yours. On the other side, if i happen to walk into a bus and find some group of people unwilling to make contact, maybe because of my race. I will help their desire by staying away as much as possible, and in the next turn of the same circumstance, I will be the first to initiate the avoidance of contact, not because i am angry but because i know who i am and also because i want to help them. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:39am On Feb 21 |
TheLoneCitizen: For every angle I watch of the Vinicius racist allegation, I feel ashamed and disgusted.
He's the one of the worst representation of a black man. And I hate the fact that this is the figure head of the fight against something as serious as racism.
And then enter Mbappé. The captain of the most black-dominated football squad outside Africa. Even more blacks than Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria put together.
He sees his teammate get called monkey 5 times and can't confront the accused. Video evidence doesn't support him. And worst off, he turns a paper tiger only after the end of the match.
And then, Henry goes on live TV to ask "why cover his mouth" something that every player from Messi, Ronaldo to even Vinicius in the same match do.
And then, white reporters, journalists, managers and pundits come all out in a manner so overly sentimental that it looks less like kick against racism and more like protecting a lesser species.
Sympathy for the lesser species.
The irony of watching Guardiola criticize racism. A man who didn't field blacks till Doku. A man who nearly pissed his pants out of fear when a black fan chased him for a picture.
Nothing I hate more than sympathy from the white man. Vinicius just undermines the real victims like Balotelli, Moise Kean, Dani Alves, Henry and Everton Luiz who cried like a baby. Racism is wrong and should be utterly condemned. But, i am sorry to say this, Black men are more racist than the Whites. Believe me. If the coin were to be flipped, White men will suffer more. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:31pm On Feb 19 |
Raphael Onyedika's performance yesterday reiterated my analysis of his utility on the field of play. Raphael Onyedika will produce more value playing as a central midfielder and even as an attacking midfielder than he would as a defensive midfielder. Stankovic and Onyedika played a double pivot in midfield with Onyedika drifting into the more offensive areas and Stankovic trailing behind to provide cover.
Raphael Onyedika's three shots were all on target. Raphael Onyedika possesses an excellent passing ability. His five long balls were all accurate, he created two chances, provided a switch of play that was essential to one the goals, assisted a goal, scored a goal etc. His shooting and passing ability will provide a good advantage if he is closer to the goalpost where wingers and center forwards will benefit from his excellent passes of the ball and where he will be closer to taking his shots at goal
A player of his abilities shouldn't be wasted plying a much deeper role. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:45pm On Feb 17 |
Gabriel Sara is something else. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:06am On Feb 02 |
Subzero0477: This does not even make sense, I told you that I watched every minute of the match (and 90% of city's matches this season) and this is your argument, it's better to concede that you were deceived by Sofascore or live broadcast (whatever that means) than arguing that you watched the match and saw O'Reilly or Bernardo Silva as a lone dm
And these broadcast companies actually set these line ups based on what they think managers would play which may not always be the case How did you know that i got my info from Sofascore? The truth is that you are the one who seems to be quoting sofascore. Stop accusing meYou claimed you saw the match, and yet couldn't easily see that Mancity clearly maintained a 4-1-4-1 shape. My last words to you on this matter is that you need to have your eyes washed with pure waterThe image below is a screenshot of Manchester City vs Galatasaray lineup taken at UEFA.com Every info posted on that site is throughly checked by top football analysts employed at UEFA, and they can't be wrong especially on issues like this.
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:02pm On Feb 01 |
Subzero0477: Like I said you get your stats from Sofascore and tv lineups, I'm a city fan and I watched every minute of the game, so you actually don't know what you are talking about You are the one using Sofascore as your main source (it seems like you have visited there to bolster your misinformation). I only visit these stat sites (many of them) to get different perspectives in order to make a more informed conclusion. A live broadcast from Etihad revealed a 4-1-4-1. The shape maintained by the players as they moved across the pitch revealed a 4-1-4-1. You said that i am quoting the TV lineup. If you cannot believe what you saw on the TV, maybe you should believe the one in your dream, or the one in your fantasy.
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:09pm On Feb 01 |
Subzero0477: Man city played 4-2-3-1, I know you got your stats from Sofascore but that's how they actually lined up in the match Which sofascore (Just laughing at you). The image is a screenshot i made as the players lined up. You keep using the adverb actually like you have made your proof beyond reasonable doubt.
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:51pm On Feb 01 |
mank1234: Melforme come and see o Moses Simon is good, but i prefer Chidera Ejuke. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:40pm On Feb 01 |
Subzero0477: Guardiola actually played a 4-2-3-1 with O'Reilly and Bernardo Silva at the base of midfield, a high press meant leaving AbdulKarim against Haaland in a one on one situation which led to the first goal, Gala were then more compact to block central areas in the second half but were still carved open by dribbling of Reindjeirs and Ait Nouri for clear chances which were missed I wanted to abandon this discussion when you included the adverb "actually", indicating your assuredness, but at a second thought, i changed my mind. ManCity deployed 4-1-4-1. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:58pm On Jan 30 |
Subzero0477: What Guardiola wants is for you to press him btw to pick you apart, Galatasaray came with a game plan and executed it well. Guardiola was afraid of a high press, believe me. Guardiola adopted a 4-1-4-1, similar to the Moroccan 4-1-4-1 in order to curb Galatasaray's intensity and high press. Guardiola anticipated it, Galatasaray should have gone ahead with their style of play, they have the players to execute it. They shouldn't have held back. The second half of the game told everything. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:15pm On Jan 30 |
BankyGee: You really watched the match, Lucas Torreira that was benched because the coach wanted Gundogan to start was the problem in the first place. Lucas Torreira does not hold back against any opponent. He's the engine of Galatasaray's midfield but a silent worker, Okan benched him to start Gundogan as, I don't know, maybe a gift or something. Gundogan was too slow in that game. Immediately Torreira came on in the second half, Galatasaray started pressing, but Man City's defence was compact and organized.
Again, chances were not created for Osimhen because there wasn't/isn't a proper creator in the game, apart from Sane, the remaining attacking players prefer to dribble and lose the ball than attempt to find their striker in the box. Galatasaray should try and secure Ademola Lookman, It will boost their attack. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:10pm On Jan 30 |
Subzero0477: They should have pressed against an attack of Haaland, Doku and Cherki so that they'll be walloped 5:0 and miss the playoffs, they played the reasonable way a team of Galatasaray's stature would play against Man city keeping in mind that a respectable loss still takes them to the playoffs, Man city took their foot off the pedal in the second half but still created 2 clear chances that would have been goals if not for poor finishing A good press will do a lot. It will make sure the ball doesn't get to those players you mentioned. They will have to drop deeper to get the ball and that is good damage control |