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biomustry:
Na ment, Funny thing is you can't use stats to rubbish Messi, he's everywhere

4 finals with Argentina
4L's
0 goal
0 assist.

0 World cup knockout stage goals.


Mr everywhere is always drawing blank for Argentina.

Should I also add the numerous times he went with Argentina to various tournaments and couldn't score a single goal?

Jodera:
Why I won't deny that during Pep's era, it was mostly midfield domination especially championed by those guys we both agree on.

But even Pep says without messi, they won't be great the way they are then. Yes they will be good, but they won't be so great. And that was Pep's words.

And your c.Ronaldo logic might not happen. Why, because a certain Ibra was there and he wasn't comfortable with the system. Ibra is also a world class goalscorer too, yet he wasn't happy in the system.

Pep will always hype up his players. He also said Foden was the greatest talent he has ever coached. The spanish team was very great without Messi. That's typical Pep.


Ibra was banging in goals at Barca. He had a fallout with Pep that ended his time there and Messi demanded to play in his position.

hensben:
Ok

Ok

StarchAndBanga:
Same argument can as well be made for Ronaldo.
Remove Ronaldo from that star studded Madrid squad filled with Galacticos and only God knows the kind of goals, assists, chance creation records he would have shattered

Same argument can't be made for Ronaldo. Ronaldo was the system and Everything.

hensben:
And you think cr7 will flourish well in tiki taka system.

And why won't he flourish? David Villa did for Spain.

Jodera:
Everyone knows that the core of barca then was busquets, xavi, iniesta and messi. No one was "carrying" anybody.

Of course, messi would get most of the praise cos of his end products which was exceptional btw, but that doesn't mean anybody is carrying anyone.

Xavi and iniesta doing it in international scene will be easy. After all Spain is the conglomerate of elclasico clubs. And the spines of both Madrid and barca(arguably the two biggest clubs in the world) are Spanish players.

Nope wrong bro. The core of Barca dominance during Pep Era was their Midfield dominance championed by Xavi, Iniesta and then Busquet. Messi was the cherry on top of a well oiled system. A system that worked perfectly in the Spanish national team without Messi that enabled them dominate international football. Remove Messi and put a world class goalscorer like Ronaldo in that system and only God knows the kind of record he would have shattered.

thorrvik55:
Neymar1095 come and supply ur memes, likes and shares.. Ur Boss has made a new post

K

Jodera:
Na for this thread you go see

Messi.... A midget fraud, a failure.
Ronaldo.... A Pk merchant and tap in lord. Fraud!
Xavi and iniesta... System players. Can't do anything outside barca. Frauds
Pep guardiola... Can't do anything without messi(note messi issa fraud oo ). Fraud without spending!
Monaco players when they carried league... Almost all na World class players.

Etc...


Las las... This thread na cruise market.
Any blasphemous argument wey you wan sell, bring am, buyers plenty yakpa

Xavi(certified system player) and Iniesta dominated international football with Spain. Thank God for that If not the narrative would have been Midget was carrying them at Barca as well.

thorrvik55:
Neymar1095 food don done.. Come and back ur master up

Don't ever quote my posts with this kind of rubbish next time.

2emotional:
You guys should return this discussion to scummies thread where it started. At scummies thread it is messi vs Ronaldo,here it was messi vs pep and it then matured to messi vs Rinaldo. They are both GOATS and y'all know that no argument over them have ever been settled so, end it already.

There is only one GOAT in World football and that title belongs to the player who dominated two leagues with two different teams winning each individual and collective tittles along the way.

Ibunkun1:
I don't know why people are surprised about Madrid fan's bitterness towards messi, Even if messi wins everything with Barca and Argentina them go find something to say

Another proof why larride was frustrated yesterday. The ability to comprehend a post is always problem. How does the initial argument relate to what you just posted. The argument is between Messi, Pep and winning the champions league.

Amoto94:
[s] Don't drag larr.ide into this when you maybe one of those behind the scenes sharing and liking the opposite views, I hate double-faced people who aren't stable like some radioactive elements with less than a second half-life. [/s]

Still typing out of point.

Amoto94:
Messi carry along? I would love to be carried along with his crazy stats. We can equally claim that his near-equal competitor is a carry along too because he was surrounded by good players

No wonder larride was frustrated yesterday. You guys can't actually read properly and understand anything.

Sulele04:
[s]bLet me break it down for you .
Messi the destroyer of super chickens, assisted di-maria to score the goal that won argentina the olympics football final.b [/s]

I said Gtfoh.

Sulele04:
Argentina 1 - Nigeria 0

Gtfoh

[quote author=Neymar1095 post=96223428][/quote]Clowns full everywhere jor . The man that gave Pep the champions league is finding it difficult to give all the Argentina Coaches even a spoon

"Messi won champions league before pep"


You mean the champions league Campaign he was injured almost all through the knockout out stages lmao. Of course right


Messi the giver of champions league has one in the last 8 years where he was carried by Neymar and has been disgraced constantly by Roma, Liverpool and Bayern


Messi the giver of trophies to coaches has 0 senior trophy for Argentina.

Why can't he give the numerous Argentina Coaches trophies like he gave Pep.

Why am I even answering a well known clown.

OVA200:
What brought Ronaldo into this for God's sake, you even have to detail his career for Madrid and juve.

The reason for Messi slander is because of pep not because of Ronaldo.

Messi fans are always so insecure its hilarious

MorataFC:
I don't know why you guys like to diss this man for no reason, if barca is out of any championship it is Messi, but if it is other guy they will rather blame the team or the coach. CR7 spent 9 seasons in Madrid with 2 laliga titles heavens did not fall, if na Messi another sakamaje pictures would have been arranged to describe him. CR7 left Madrid for Juventus, in his first season he lost coppa Italia disgracefuly to Atalanta in semifinal nobody blame him, the second season he lost the same cup to Napoli, this time around they began to blame the coach but when juve won the seria A title it was ronaldo that help them to win it, as if if he's not there they won't win it.

Baba this post was unnecessary and you even brought Ronaldo who had nothing to do with it. Somebody said Messi is going to rescue Pep which means give him the champions league title and I was asking if it was the same Messi that has been disgraced in the Champions for 5 years in a row or the Messi that had one champions league title in 9 yrs or the Messi that has 0 trophy for his country. He cannot rescue his own Barca or give his country any trophy but it's Pep Man City he wants to rescue Lmao.

This Messi? The one that keeps getting disgraced in the champions league for 5 seasons in a roll.

randomperson:
[s]

I was expecting 'K'. I'm happy you are getting bolder

Anyways, I can show you Ramos and Casillas world cup.

In the finals that Ronaldo ghosted against Atletico Madrid and Liverpool, Bale came to the rescue.

Now you show me Ronaldo's playmaker award
[/s]

K

randomperson:
[s] That's why your logic is faulty.

Using your logic, it would look like modric and bale are responsible for the trophies.

You forget that Spain also had Casillas, the best goalkeeper in the world at the time, Ramos, one of the best right back at the time, and Xabi Alonso, a world class DM, all who played for Madrid.

But you are too daft to figure that out on your own. The only explanation for this is a genetic thinking deficiency. [/s]

Premium trash and Shalayes. Show us Modric and Bale trophies before meeting Ronaldo and a champions league quarter final game for both. Provide those or shut up. All your arguments are dead.

randomperson:
Please go ahead, I'm waiting.

Take your best shot

Nah am done with you. From hence K is your only answer.

You better go and continue arguing with your mates. I will ridicule and eat you up for dinner.

randomperson:
If I respond and destroy your argument na, you go dey hide again

Applying this your logic na, then modric and bale should take credit for the UCLs madrid won. Because for four years before they came Ronaldo didnt win the UCL for madrid

The only thing you can destroy here is your stupidity. Show me Bale and Modric trophies before meeting Ronaldo. Infact show me a champions league quarter final appearance for both.

timay:
True Though. It's not a coincidence that once Xavi and Iniesta left, as well as Alves and a declining bosquest, Barca started declining despite Messi being available in the team. Those guys are the ones doing the Job while Messi gets the praise. Even though it doesn't take away how good Messi is, but he wasn't the one making the team tick.

Despite every expensive idiots Barca bought after, they still couldn't come close to what those guys I mentioned did to maintain that quality

Leave one random person to be typing trash up and down. Messi is a fraud

Kholiwe:
The difference is clear.

Over 114 champions league goals but only 20goals from the quarter final to final stage. A whopping 94goals scored in the group stage and Round of 16. What a joke stat padding in useless matches and disappearing in the tougher matches. Messi is a big time fraud.

Kholiwe:
1 I don't care about your argument neither did I tell you about Messi role

2 Ronaldo in that all conquering Barca team will demolish all football goal records. David Villa was enjoying such benefits when playing for Spain and banging In goals on a regular and he is not up to Ronaldo toe nails.

3 Messi had enjoyed playing with the better players,Same club,same system and a stable team through out his career more than Ronaldo.

I have said it before Spain success without Messi shows that Barca team would have been as successful with or without Messi. Messi failures with Argentina even proves that further. Stick a world class goalscorer like Ronaldo in that barca team instead of Messi like Spain did with Villa /Torres and nothing would have changed. They would still dominate and win trophies.

Amoto94:
Bernardo Silva, Mbappe, Falcao, Fabinho, Benjamin Mendy, Joao Mourinho Sidibe is no slouch either and Subasic.

None of those players where called world class at that time. Stop rewritten history to make a point.

Sulele04:
[s] didirin .
tell your strikers to also pad stats.
firstly tell luka jovic the 60m alagolo to pad stats since it is easy like bread and beans, imagine 21 appearance 2 goals against eibarr huesca.
alsn despite benzema playing more games and no cr7 to steal his shine, messi still scored more goals than that F1 F9 player, one is striker and one is an attacking midfielders. [/s]

K

Neymar1095:
Biggest fraud of the 21st century. No wonder since the decline of Iniesta and Xavi Barca has been getting disgraced regularly in the Champions league.

All Messi does in the Champions league is stat pad in the group stage and Round of 16. His goal record from the quarter final to final stage is poverty stricken so I am not surprised.

He should lift his own country to win any trophy first of all.

4 Finals
4L's
0 goal
O Assist

Argentine Fraud.