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PIPSMARSHALL:
We are all gamblers, good traders gamble in a professional way. Same with pros in other industry.

If u see d way he chats on fxfactory, u go b like say so na meshpips b dis...

You kids are rude and unruly that is why I dey treat una as una deserve.

Whatever I am doing here is for the advancement of this industry.

Or do you guys think that I am clamouring for someone to come and spoon-feed me? What I am doing here in making this call to successful prop firm traders should look the way of educating others so that more people can become successful like they are.

My thoughts and intents might be mis-judged today but in the process of time, many people will see that I meant well for them.

PIPSMARSHALL:
Only people who have failures from other career will chose trading as a easy way to making it. Society worships money, if I bag 1M usd in d bank, dem go bow. There are different means to get this mulla, some do yahoo, doctors, coding...I choose trading.

You cannot have 1st class nd choose fx. Opportunities go open else where for u.

I cannot have a well paying job and choose fx, unto say wetin? A loss of a job means I don't feed.
I cannot be a doctor, nurse or account or engineer and choose fx? A loss to a doctor could mean someone's life. Or fraud to d accountant or collapse to the engineer.

A loss to a trader is just funds. You see its easy. And the time spent is totally different in all careers.

The stats are there, but the determination and will to succeed is all I need. But as man don fail for other industries or career, failing in trading should not be that huge once the risks involved is accepted by the trader.
You are right, many are called few are chosen. Those few have a different mindset to the game. 80%/20% rule. 20% eat 80% of the food while 80% struggle for 20% food share.

When you have gained knowledge, choose not to be disobedient. Na wetin kill Adam and eve in d garden of Eden. That's what's killing many traders too. If u obey ur strategy and rules, its easy.
But u see temptation and trials we all face it and that one ehn, even the best trader in d world using vap strategy is tempted.

There is an error of hasty generalization.

Stop talking about things you do not know.

Within this FTA thread alone, GabsonFX is a first class graduate of Mechanical Engineering, has an excellent job yet trades FX.

Stop talking about what you do not know.

Geovanni412:
Wait first ....

Make I grab 🍿

Abeg, what are you saying?

That infofirst is giving them the money to renew his juju abi na wetin

Chai....

Only in Nigeria that somebody will help others and they will accuse him of not doing well and he will still chop insult.

Tueh

Even the Bible says give as you are led and not out of compulsion or necessity

Infofirst is only obliged to help others in a way he is led to do so by his heart.

You can suggest to him ways to help others in a calm and polite manner but don't make it sound like he is doing nothing. .

I have told him that this is what I appeal to him to do. The issue I have with him is because he is writing that I am a certified scammer for attempting to help others get to where I am.

Lanshile:
If you are looking for who to spoon feed you his strategy he suffered to derive then you are stupid
If you like be listening to mesh advice
Your eyes will soon clear
Anything you want in life go work for it and earn it
Life is tough and no one will feed you like a toddler
Go work for what you want
You guys are lucky to have people who will fund account for you on here after meeting some requirement,take advantage of that

Why will any right thinking person purchase evaluation accounts for people that have less than 6% chance of getting a payout? Yet he keeps doing it month after month.

Does statistical data mean anything to us at all? Do you just like to waste money? Or what exactly is the point he (@infofirst) is trying to make?

Instead of holding them by the hand and yes spoonfeeding them if he must. Just to ensure that they get to that point of receiving a payout.

It is stupid and selfish to think that because you suffered to get success in life then your kids and everyone else has to suffer before they smell success but this is what is prevalent in this industry.

Many of you are defending mediocre ideas because you are still very young (in your late twenties or thirties). Pretty soon, as you begin to age, you will start seeing life from a far better perspective.

Lanshile:
If not because of infofirst a lot of young traders would have left this group
He is the super glue holding this group
Your problem is you have this entitlement mentality which isn't suppose to be
You charged 5k for nostro account
If you were the one in Infofirst position
No one would have benefitted a dime from you
Ive made a vow never to engage you again please just stop mentioning me anytime you want to wreak havoc,stop using me as reference to anything you want to say
I don't like you man

Whén kids insult you and try to talk you down do you think they are worthy of being given freebies?

Didn't I mention what @currentprice sent me as response when I tried telling him to contact me back then in 2019? I had a link to a guy that was giving out free 25k evaluation accounts back then and wanted him to be part of the opportunity because he was trading US oil excellently well back then.

His response was just a total insult to me. Since that day, I made up my mind never to give things out for free or share unsolicited info to undeserving people.

Think about it . . . 25k evaluation info I gave out freely to many but their bad attitude made me ask them to pay a token for a $10k evaluation.

Bad attitude will get kids no where good!

Niceguy24:
That was over a year ago.

If i remember correctly, that was in December of 2021

😅😅I found it so funny back then

Hardly did I make a post from around the last quarter of 2020 until maybe 2 years after.

I had the worst period of my life back then. Lost my job at TigerWits where I was head of the training department, suffered terrible losses when something went wrong with my VAP computation.

I spent one full year in the village in Delta state with my wife and kids.

I didn't come back to Lagos until around October 2021 and hardly made a post until much later. So that definitely is not me in the "creepto" thread.

I only created an account with a "creepto" exchange a few months ago.

After e-bullion, e-gold and liberty reserve went down, I approach digital/electronic currencies with caution.

OneMillionBTC:
I just came to see all the drama here..... Hmmmm


For the selfishness part in this industry, I will agree with you. It is true. Successful traders will not tell you "everything" they are doing. It cost them too much to become successful and so they will not reveal their trading secrets easily.

Yes, they can help and guild other traders to make profit by allowing them follow their calls. But even their followers "cannot" be exposed to what he/she really knows.

I am a successful traders so I know this. It took me 15 years to become consistent at making profit. I can show you my calls so you follow me and at times even reveal fragments of how I am trading (Elliot wave) but, I will be very foolish to just come here and reveal everything.

So you are very correct, selfishness exist, but it will not stop.

You have to earn their trust and loyalty before they can open up to you. I can hardly count the number of persons I have really revealed how I trade to. Yes, they earned it. And they are producing similar kind of my result.

Thanks for writing this. So I hope we now understand why I asked "is this how we will make the world a better place"?

God forbid, if I breathe my last today, in how many people have I replicated myself?

If you breathe your last today, will you take your knowledge to the grave?

A few weeks ago Rob (A trader) passed onto glory but the "strat" (his method which he taught many) lives on.

My clarion call is that those that have been able to scale the evaluation or even receive payout should do more by way of educating the newer or less informed traders.

Does the failure rate not bother you guys at all? Or have we become so selfish that all we think about is me, myself and I?

Do you care about others in the industry as a trader? Or you want to remain selfish, wicked and block the way whenever anyone else tries to help other traders?

The part in bold is for infofirst and every other person that has been able to pass his evaluation or reveíve a payout from any prop firm.

Lanshile:
Brother you are not suppose to be making mockery of people just because they lost an account. It is wrong
I really hope u change this mentality

I didn't mock anyone. I only used that to underscore the need for guidance from the more experienced traders who have been able to pass prop firm evaluations or have been able to receive a payout.

People like infofirst who is castigating me are the ones I am referring to.

Charge the people if you will but help them get to where you are lest I will keep calling him WICKED.

See how Ibrahimlagosian tried to show people what he found out concerning Islam and trading being haram. That was his knowledge at that time and he did all he could to persuade others.

This is a quality of a true leader.

Geovanni412:
See assignment....

Make I begin dey search all deflover's posts

See post:
https://www.nairaland.com/7089402/whale-catcher

Anyway, deflover wrote a book called whale catcher where he describes using sth that sounds eerily similar to VAP technique . Check d description of his book

Below are snapshots of meaning of vap technique and description of deflover's book on Amazon.

Whether meshpips and deflover are the same person...I don't know.

My job is to present the facts as I see it.

Funny enough, deflover always use to attack everybody that trolled him too with violence.

As always, lads, correlation does not mean causation.

Good thing you showed what you saw.

My brother that is Volume At Price and not Volume Adjusted Price.

My computation is done on an Excel sheet (template). Every other thing is done by visual inspection as I have not automated this technique yet.

Please I am not that person and can tell you that he has not been trained by me or learnt his method from me.

Hope this clears it?

Dreamscapar:
Sorry boss, you must have forgotten me, am your bearded friend, we did shared codes and excel files together (I did the coding).

I just thought creating a free signal service will help you reach a lot of traders since your intention is to help.

Again sorry if my suggestion offended you.

Cheers....

Please do well to help me tell them. That night you called me, have we met before then?

Kindly tell them whether I charged you a dime.

Many in this thread have never had a one-on-one interaction with me yet label me a scammer.

Please help me tell them

Dreamscapar:
Sorry boss, you must have forgotten me, am your bearded friend, we did shared codes and excel files together (I did the coding).

I just thought creating a free signal service will help you reach a lot of traders since your intention is to help.

Again sorry if my suggestion offended you.

Cheers....

Okay the bearded guy that called me one night like that? You never ever got back to me after then.

Let's chat via whatsapp. Number is on my signature.

Finally, if you were one of those that quoted any of my post to insult me and you have not been able to pass the 2-phase challenge of any prop firm, just move to the left hand side and start begging your God for forgiveness.

What you criticize will hardly ever come to you. These principles of life are very simple.

We all are still here anyway. It will be such a delight when many of you have a change of heart about me.

@Lanshile is a prime example. His own did not even take up to 3 years before he openly confessed.

Una own still dey come.

infofirst:
A scammer that has no shame will keep one same moniker.

My brother, your own nor kuku hard.

You will apologize for all you are saying in the near future.

E nor too far again.

Dreamscapar:
@ Boss Meshpips, seems almost all traders here uses the metaquote platform (I assume).

I suggest you open a free signal service on mql5 website and post the link here.

You'll be helping a lot of traders this way.

Just put "copy signal at your own risk" caveat.

Cheers....

You obviously are rather new here on FTA. Go back to previous seasons and see that I have always been giving or posting my trade recommendations here.

You have at least 7 seasons to go read through then come back here and spew that trash again.

Geovanni412:


Very funny....

There was a guy like that on the crypto thread

The guy also used VAP to trade

He used to talk about how he did great things in London

Na so dem give am $100 to trade, the guy deactivate im moniker deflover for many months till now.

Maybe na d same guy with different moniker.

I would have outrightly called you a liar but just to give you the benefit of doubt, kindly post just one link to where the so called person mentioned that he trades using VAP.

I know all those that I have trained and I am certain that I am the only one trading the VAP technique for now.

Please prove me wrong and post a link to where the person said he trades using VAP.

rainlover:
he's the one. Meshpips has many old monikers.

You are very wrong bro.

I have had just one moniker on here since over 10 years ago.

Think about how a "scammer" will stay with the same moniker for that long.

I just dey laugh all of una.

dmahn:
Naso now.. Na phone Photoshop I use sef... If I get time open am for my lapi, I go generate a very high quality version.. But I no get hin time

Funny that you think I can stoop so low as to editing a certificate.

You won't be the first to think that way. It just shows what you can be capable of.

infofirst:
With all the information and facts that I have. It will be unfair to keep quiet on this issue. I will not share confidential evidence but I can reliably inform this family house that Meshpips is a bold scammer. I was surprised to see him have the boldness to still come here to advertise such a shameful deal. Knowing fully well that I will see it as well. He is a scammer. He is a bold scammer. Who does not care but about himself alone.

For future prosperity. Meshpips is a certified scammer. You can take me to court. I have solid evidence to back it up.

Time will tell whether or not I am what you call me. I pray that we all stay alive and in good health until that "time"

It won't be the first time people are saying such about me.

Time is always the final arbiter.

My appeal again: take a few people by the hand, spoon-feed them if you must and help them get their first payout from any prop firm of your choice.

Do well to let us know those that you have taken.

GabsonFX2:
Good morning ore, long time; how fam?

There are 2 options: SL remains 1942.7
1. You either enter now at the current price but with half of your regular lot size. Then if price comes to 1925.0, you enter again with the remaining half of your standard lot, same SL.
OR
2. Wait for the price to come to 1925.0 and enter with full lot size, same SL; however, price may never come back to that, hence you miss out.

Thanks for sharing your outlook.

I will prefer waiting for today's candle to close bullish then I will seek entry at the VAP demand level tomorrow or at the CLOSE of yesterday's candle.

I feel that price has traded into discount levels of a BULLISH SEGMENT. Having done this, I simply wait for a polarity change and seek to trade in the direction of the parent bullish segment.

The segment can be clearly seen on daily time frame.

Just my thought if it makes any sense.

infofirst:
If not for maturity sake, I would have informed the house that those accounts he got funded with were $5000 accounts. And that they have all been burnt. If not for maturity sake, I would have scatter more fragile tables.
Scammers have red flags. I have been able to clearly understood how they operates. They hide all the questionable attributes and post the good sides. An experienced trader with over 15years experience that is still begging for prop accounts. Is that one a trader or an arrogant gambler? It is a terrible one.

@HumbleTrader, please come and take your senior colleague to your village please

We say NO to scamming in whatever form on this thread.
One that remains silent before scammers is also a scammer in the making. I refused to be silent. Meshpips is a scammer on this thread.

No tables to be scattered.
I wrote openly when I breached the account on Twitter.

At this stage of my journey, I am no longer ashamed to let people know that I failed.

Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.

I have gotten to where only about 11% of traders worldwide can ever get to and I am willing to help others get there.

You have not done same or at least nine that I know of. Do you delight in just throwing money away by purchasing evaluation accounts for people and waiting for some magic to make these random people get into the 5% league?

Why not purchase the account for them and take them under your tutelage until they get to payout level?

Why do you want them to keep struggling by themselves when you are in a position to offer assistance? Is that what Islam teaches you?

My own Bible says do not with hold help from people if it is within your power to do so.

Infofirst, take a few by the hand and help them get to where you are.

Just this week alone, PipMarshall, Ibrahimlagosian and one other person have all failed the 2-phase evaluation yet we have those that get payouts every month but will NEVER offer a helping hand even if they have to charge a fee.

Is this how we will make our world a better place?

Wicked people everywhere!

Rubbish!

karkinase:
How person go just wake up say he wan bring ppl out of ICU wen you urself Dey ICU.. no be juju be that

Have you passed the 2-phase challenge for any prop firm? If yes, kindly show your certificate.

I will then start wondering why you have not decided to help others get to that stage which only 11% of traders can get to globally.

If you have not yet aced at least one prop firm 2-phase evaluation, please hold your lips with your right hand.

Just fem!

infofirst:
Meshpips is a deceitful trader.
Have anything to do with him trade wise at your own risk.
No time to exchange words
The wise one understands better
Best wishes in your future endeavors boss mi

Thanks for the kind words @infofirst.

Now select a few people from this thread that you currently bought accounts for and see them through until withdrawal or payout.

If you cannot do it bro, you are simply wicked. You withdraw money from your own prop accounts right? Help others do same even if you have to charge a fee.

The selfishness in this industry has got to stop. Help others or stop blockading others that offer assistance.

Weekend is near.

I am waiting to be dragged.

If you curse or complain about darkness and you refuse to put on the light, you are most miserable of men!

I have made my offer open to those that require help.

I am not under subjection to answer questions to whoever thinks I am in no place to offer this service.

Have I passed the evaluations in the past but myself? Emphatically yes!

Can I help others do same? Logically it sounds like a yes again right?

Refuse to have those that are making money but not willing to hold you by the hand and guide you hinder you from getting to where they are.

I challenge @infofirst to guide traders here if he truly seeks to help.

Get them funded and see them through to withdrawal or payout.

Consistently profitable traders will hardly ever do what I am doing right now.

Infofirst, over to you. Take people by the hand and see them through until payout.

Godwinlabaran70:
Okay, how can I reach you, bro
Drop your Gmail or phone number

Kindly see the number in my signature.

Thanks

rainlover:
Baba don come back stronger with another strategy to strangle the gullible 😁😁

Is this something I have done for myself?

Was it a fluke? Did it happen just once?

Hmmmnnn it seems that he knows what he is doing.

If you are struggling, drop the pride and seek assistance from those that have gotten to where you yet aspire to be.

friendbee:

Oga do you work in ICU

There is huge demand to get willing people out of ICU.

I have passed the 2 - phase evaluation at least 3 times this year and I certainly stand in a position to help those that are still struggling with doing so.

Most successful traders will NEVER look the way of helping others but life is more than me, myself and I.

This is a drive to getting as many as are willing funded.

He that is not sick does not need a physician.

#outofICU_campaign

Ibrahimlagosian:
Lost both of my TFT and fundednext competition account today ,we go next month

Hello bro,

when you are ready to do your next prop firm evaluation, kindly reach out to me.

You have inherent leadership capabilities in you. How did I know?

According to your level of knowledge at that time, you thought trading was haram and you went ahead to warn as many people that cared to listen. This shows that you do not center on yourself alone but look out for the welfare of others.

That is a very good quality! For this singular reason, I will help you in every way I can to pass your next evaluation.

If you have a prop account that is currently drawn down or you know someone that has such an account and needs help with passing the evaluation phases, kindly send me a message.
Let's work together and get those accounts out of Intensive Care Unit (ICU).
#OutOfICU_campaign

GabsonFX2:
Let's keep getting it boss...I'm currently @ 103.0 pips, my target is 600.0 pips, worst I should get 500 pips from it if I will be closing manually after market exhaustion.

I see from your chart, you are trading from H1; this means to me that you will come out earlier than me except you are a trend trader - then your time of exit may then match mine (a swing trader).

Gold Analysis
As previously stated, now gold has closed bearish today; I'm definitely leaving this trade till market exhaustion, maybe till next week. Please note: buyers would come in between, don't fret.

If I had to pick a price to sell gold from . . . where would that be?