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MaxInDHouse:
They agreed on one thing:

Anyone claiming Christian doesn't need to know, relate or worship with other worshipers in person.

I got that clearly from their argument but how are they going to work together to baptize new converts just as Jesus commanded and how are they going to record their activities if there is no imperson meetings?

They obviously cannot think.

Straybullet:
And you do not believe the words of jesus who told us no man can know the son but the father.

So are you not antichrist?

You don't have sense......am I asking you to show me the father?

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Straybullet:
I can't believe you're sounding somewhat like I would

Unfortunately, he does not believe that you are a true worshipper? How can Kobojunkie and you who claim to be true worshippers of God fail to be in agreement?
While you claim that we can never know or see a true worshipper, Kobojunkie believes that we can know and see them but he has never met and seen anyone i
His entire life who is actually a true follower of christ.

Are you two not a bunch of confused people?

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, one fact I am certain of is that no follower of Jesus Christ would:
▶ Associate Him, and His Name, with any organization of men on this earth
▶ Be associated with any religion or doctrines of men; Jesus Christ openly distanced himself from the religious leaders of even His time as well as their many doctrines and rituals.
▶ Use His name for any idea other than that strictly contained in His Gospel and Law; Using the name of Jesus Christ for that which He did not command or teach amounts to using His name in vain.
▶ Bow down to or follow any man or group of men who claim to be teachers or representatives of God on earth; Jesus Christ alone is the Teacher and authority to all of His followers.
▶ Subject himself to the standards of other men particularly where it concerns the Kingdom of God; Jesus Christ is the only standard that He judges all things by.
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Jesus Christ is God's Law defined and no man or person has authority from him to stand between Him, the vine, and His branches.
So, that pretty much means every single individual out there holding or hanging on to religion has no part in Him Jesus Christ. There is no debating that unless you believe instead that Jesus Christ is not the absolute power and authority in the Kingdom of God which He claimed to be, in which case, this is all moot.

2. Absolutely! I have met a lot of religious beings such as yourself but I have never met a single being who exudes Jesus Christ in the same way that Jesus Christ said His followers would. o?

3. I am far from funny!

4. There is no mandate given by Jesus Christ that a follower go out in search of other followers so I know it is the religion in you that believes such nonsense. There is only one Jesus Christ and almost 100% of the claims you have made thus far have absolutely nothing to do with Him.

5. Lol... You do believe that Jesus Christ is according to the whims of men, don't you? What OP pointed out was known to me even back when I was just an atheist, unconcerned with the things of Jesus Christ. Would it have made sense for me to have at that time concluded like you insinuate that I was a follower of Jesus Christ by having that knowledge?

Oga stop writing long epistles na.

Do you know a true follower of christ today?
Yes or no?
If yes, who are they?
If no, How come you've never met anyone in your entire life?
Did Jesus's disciples not know themselves and studied God's word together?
How are you even sure that the true followers are in agreement with you?

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Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the vine, is the one who knows them. Jesus Christ did not establish an institution of men on earth to keep record of His branches on His behalf. So, do not for one sad moment think your organization here on earth is somehow licensed by him in some ridiculous way..

2. Jesus Christ said to His followers of His other followers that by their fruit you shall know them. Those who belong to Him bear fruits of Obedience and are able to identify the others when they encounter them. The very light of Jesus Christ shines from each one of His own no matter how far away the person may be located.

I have personally never met one of the others but I believe what Jesus Christ said is nothing but the Truth of God.

No matter how much you try to fake it, your organization here on earth will never be able to duplicate this fact of Jesus Christ. Ask the Catholic church before you and you will know .

😆😆😆😆😆......And you think you are a true follower of christ?
And you have not in your entire life met another true follower of christ?😆😆😆
You must be the funniest person on planet earth.
Oga go and look for others who are true followers of christ before you come and tell me who a true follower of christ is.
So even the op that you are supporting is also not a true follower of christ😆😆😆

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Kobojunkie:
The followers of Jesus Christ are those who are commanded ONLY by Jesus Christ --- they hear His voice alone and are taught by Him alone. They do not belong to any organization of this word nor are they commanded by any group of men. That is what Jesus Christ established in His Gospel. His Gospel and Word is the same Today as it was in the beginning -- almost 2000 years ago-- and will always be.

Who are these people?
Where are they?
Can we identify them?
Do you know anyone of them?

Kobojunkie:
Op has made it abundantly clear that even your denomination has nothing with Jesus Christ and the God of Israel who instead prescribed for His followers an idea and understanding far away from that which you keep pushing.

You confuse the word church to imply a collection of people connected via an organization, a system of this world ruled over by your GBs. Jesus Christ instead described His own church as a set of branches only joined together, not by any other idea but by Him. Each node/branch of Jesus Christ's church is not even joined by location or commonalities that have to do with this earth. They could be scattered away from each other yet connected to the master who is Jesus Christ. Notice the stark difference between what you call church and that which is in fact of Jesus Christ?

Oga no need for epistle.
Who are the true followers of christ today?

newbornmacho:
The op has been trying to explain something, you have been trying to trap him and he has skillfully evaded your traps.
Why not allow him land?

I have been asking op to land and he has not been able to land. He claims that we can never know anyone else that worships God.
So how did Jesus disciples know themselves and worship God together?
That is what he has not been able to answer.
Hope you are not confusing the word 'church' to mean buildings? Church actually means a congregation of people that gather together to worship God irrespective of their location on earth.

newbornmacho:
This is intellectual Laziness and dishonesty at the same time.

You have shied away from addressing the serious points the op has raised.

Instead you're turning it into a matter of banter...

Oga...denominations are not of God.

Mention one that is the church...is it Catholic, or Greek orthodox , or coptoc, or Lutheran or pentecostal


Which one of them has not succumbed to the gates of hell with respect to moral failures and manifesting flesh


If you are not capable of the kind of theological sophistication the op and others have been displaying here stay away abeg!


Did Jesus start a church

Do you even know the history of what you call church


If you like don't start seeking the true church and continue dancing waist dance in your dead denominations

What is the True church?

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