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Guy shift abeg. This conversation was so during Methuselah times. We have moved on. If you are still interested, you can send me the rest of the conversation by email. Toodles

TWoods:
Will your kids ever live in the US? - yes.
Will they work and pay into the Medicare system? - yes
Will your kids probably dislike freeloaders using their taxes and not paying for it? - dear God yes.

So exactly what did I say about "your children" that was untrue? The sheer amount of useless drama on these boards is outstanding.

Thank you for always making your point intelligently. We hope people abide by these things. It's the bad occasions like this that cause problems for genuine seekers.

lomwe:
Someone asked if North Houston Hospital is included. Again for clarity purpose you are not under any ban to use any hospital that provide child care delivery in America. Summary of everything is where ever u choose as hospital, let them know it's self pay for foreigners. Any form that ask for income other than the one u submitted at embassy is trying to determine eligibility. It will hurt you at the end. Don't also forget that your baby when he/she turn 18 is going to file for citizenship for you the parent at that point govt will spool out money you owed 18yrs ago plus the accrued interest. U won't want your child to have such a heavy financial burden. This place is a capitalist society and they are very very patient .
Today, I want to just talk about a couple who had all the money for their baby and was turned back in Houston. The VO ask them (husband n wife) if they had adequate cash for their baby delivery. The lady said yes and started bringing out all the cash in small small envelopes of one, two, and five thousands. When the VO asked why the money was splits in bits they said its because it was gifts from family and friends. Immediately the VO refused them entry and she later gave birth in dubai. Do u know what the problem is ? Well....we learn everyday. The problem is by the time you say people gave you various sums as gift. It's called soliciting in America. That means you are either bankrupt or financially incapable hence aid was given to you by your friends and family. Gifts for baby can be diaper etc but thousand of cash ? The culture here doesn't understand that. You may say eh he shebi the money will cover the bill, but let me ask what if something goes wrong. I have a lady that came to give birth since September last year she's still in hospital up till this moment on coma, don't even ask for the bill or what happened cos I won't say as their family members my also be on this forum. The point is clear. Don't give the impression that you "solicited" for funds. Have a great day.

Who is looking for your trouble again? Na play she dey play o

Shawbabe:
I should try put small wisdom? I don't even understand what that means.
Don't ask same question after 2 pages oh. Hope you have started searching. Good luck

Thanks

chibertha:
I have done something close to it.
Left from Lagos and returned to phc.
I did it in the airline office though.
So call the airline of your choice ticketing line they will help work you through and send the ticket ref which you will use to pay.
Remember to get her information handy because it will be needed.

Please, please, please. Who has booked a return flight before and had a different airport as the return airport? I am trying to book a flight to JFK for my mum, but I want IAD, Washington to be the airport of return. Is it possible? The agent my mum spoke to is not helping with any useful info.

So you now determine whether I understand or not. Kontinu. I understood more when the other two ladies explained! Well if you must know, I was well within my rights to address him for bringing children into the matter. I didn't have an issue with his explanation until he started addressing children. Wasn't it me that asked question? I asked him question on discounts, e enter low income matter. Like I will go and be telling them I earn less that $200. Leomwe and Mama00 that answered sensibly, aren't they human beings? Abeg, let's learn to talk civilly. Whether you abuse people or not, people will still be what they are and do what is in their mind. So why get headache over the matter. It is not the truth you are saying that is the problem, it is how you say it. Aren't you the one setting the rules of being cordial in our conversations again? If you are encouraging him to be rude, then it will continue.

I don sign out for this matter. Make we discuss important issues for here.

justwise:
Mimimum sorry but you are one of those people here who decided to attack TWoods because you don't like the way he presented the truth and not because you don't understand his explanation.

You asked a genuine question and he gave his opinion then the hell let loose.

Lomwe and Mama00 explained this correctly and that is exactly the issue with discounted hospitals.

This is not about you getting 2,3 or 5% discount for paying cash in full , this is about foreign mothers applying as low income earners so as to get huge discounts meant for Americans tax payers.

But you know ehn, a lot of honest people do not have problem with hearing the truth. I think people are on to him cos he keeps delivering his truth based on the discount issue. I really have a problem with people lying just to get benefits which they are not entitled to, but I am still not clear on the discount thingy, that was why I even genuinely asked the dude a question yesterday only for him to running like diarrhoea stool. If his argument is based on intentionally trying to derive benefit from a system you contribute nothing to, I'd understand. Na me go even follow am dey scream. But if the discount thing is a crime, let us know so that those of us that will not be able to afford paying 30k for childbirth will know. If that is the case, then the whole thing no worth am be that. My 2 cents.

justwise:
No I did not ban him and I will not as long as he keeps delivering those uncomfortable truth without insult.

Some Nigerian have problem with the truth and it's so obvious in this thread. We can't spin it off because people see us for who we are.

Whoever can't stand some blunt truth should get used to it quite frankly.

We don't have any moral right to condemn the politicians because many here will do even worse when placed in a position of responsibilities.

James Ibori started with credit card fraud when working in London and did not stop stealing when he became a governor. When he returned to Nigeria as a convicted criminal he was celebrated.

Nne say it again. So American culture does not encourage respect. I have learnt something. today.

Ishilove:
There is such a thing as 'etiquette' which is not culture bound. This era of social media has people juxtaposing tactlessness with 'bluntness'. If you want to pass information, do so without resorting to arrogance and condescension, which quite frankly, is very irritating.

The Twoods fellow is arrogant and uncouth, QED. There's no cultural attachments to those traits.

The guy for kuku contest for presidency last year alongside Trump make we know say e serious about stopping birth tourism and discounts.

Kolo someborri

justwise:
Really sometimes....

Sorry. It exists. Deal with it.

TWoods:
How civil and "unpersonal" of you in response. if everyone simply did the right thing, this thread would not exist. Enjoy.

Leave am naa. Na only am sabi type English. Let him continue running his mouth there. I can see he/she is incapable of giving a civil response at any time. My bad that I even tried being reasonable in my post. Let him come to the border and stop pregnant women coming to give birth. Since he wants to be giving foolish responses.

MsDenise:
I don't think @minimum is trying to deliberately defraud the US Govt. Seems like she genuinely wants more info about how the 'discounts' work and your final comment is a bit rude (especially to someone seeking to understand the process)

I don't think @minimum is trying to deliberately defraud the US Govt. Seems like she genuinely wants more info about how the 'discounts' work and your final comment is a bit rude (especially to someone seeking to understand the process)[/quote]

NL mamas, you have heard o. When you people reach, tell them you don't want to pay 8k all in package. Choose the 30k option so that we can atone for the sins of the doctors who unfortunately pass bills to government.

TWoods:
As one of the VOs mentioned before (see a post justwise made a few pages back), some doctors purposefully charge you low prices, so they can then bill the government for the rest (the government often would not bother to check until years later). That's a common Medicare/Medicaid scam unfortunately.

The problem is many folks here go to these underserved hospitals because of the "discounts" you get... which the rest of us pay for in terms of higher insurance premiums and taxes. If you notice, the average middle class American does not use those hospitals. They'd be sent away if they showed their tax returns.

Some day, your children will move here too. We'll see how they enjoy paying for others to come get medical care for free.

But most times from inquiries we send to them, they know we are coming from outside the US. I for one always tell them I am from Nigeria. So why do they still give the discounted self pay prices? Don't understand how it works. Are you saying it is the docs themselves that defraud the system?

TWoods:
Is this really a serious question? There are no discounts, the Feds subsidize hospitals so poorer Americans can access healthcare cheaper. Asking the hospitals to crosscheck the citizenship of each patient is unreasonable. The job of a doctor is to treat you, not serve as a CBP official. Unfortunately most Nigerians have zero clue that many societies work on a honor system, it is your duty to make sure that you're not defrauding the system.

Your question is emblematic of the Nigerian problem.

No relevant talk here today. Just garbage thrown from one end to the other. Lemme go and come back in 3 hours biko.

If they continue with this thing, please do the necessary. It was a total shame while it lasted.

justwise:
The war of words that played out here today shows why Nigeria is deeply corrupt.

Freshface thinks that Twoods is too hash on people that are abusing the American healthcare system.

This is how this fight started..interesting

Ah, @Justwise Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Neat Job.

I am just disgusted. It's not even funny.

Totally sickening. To think that the banter of some elements here is shrouding the important talk we have on this thread. Wonder how some ladies are in their homes and out there on the streets. Mothers to children. Chai. @Justwise have you gone to London too?

After they will attribute this one to hormones. As if almost all ladies here don't have raging hormones. Let us all be showing ourselves here because of hormones. Justwiseeeeeeeeee, where are you?

I wonder where justwise is when we need him.

Hi fehinebony. Will you be able to respond to a pm? I need some info please. Thanks.

fehinebony:
Very lovely hospital, I rate them 5star! The nursing care is out of this world...had my baby on the 26th November had a beautiful stay there

You too like wahala. You want to start another argument. We will soon arrest two of you.

Shawbabe:
You are condescending!!! Stick it! Stick it! *in market woman Freshface's voice*

Lmao. Abeg una no go kill person on this thread.

It depends. I had my first in Naija via CS. Surgery at 1am mumsi fed me with yam peppersoup at 9.30am same day. Those docs might be overzealous.

chloe7:
In Nigeria they'll say no food for three days, in America you can eat a few hours after, may God help us because i'm just trying to see what can be the reason behind not even drinking water even one spoon.

Hi Chiprettie, I am not travelling till end of July or very early in August, my budget is about $2,000 for accomodation. I intend leaving 2 weeks after delivery to stay with MIL who lives in Baltimore. It's a 2hrs 30mins drive by bus from Richmond to where she stays. I am really confused cos I don't want to save money on delivery fees only for accommodation to take the bulk of my funds.
How close is your extended stay acc from the doc/hosp and how much?

chiprettie:
Hello minimum! When are you due and are u already in the US? What is ur budget for accommodation cos I booked an extended stay hotel though. And I'm due in may and travelling in April. Using henrico doctors hospital as well.

Hello Ulio, I sent you a PM. Can you please respond in your free time? Thanks.

Ulio:
Mission accomplished!

Used henrico doctors hosp virginia. DR W.F
..mild pain started early hrs of 5th, by the time I got to d hospital as I was 2hrs away, I was 4cm dilated, baby arrived 11.6.16. (Vaginal birth no epidural - d pain no b here, I wnt try that next time) note that each time I look at my son d pain fades the more..

Was discharged after 2days
Dr 850, hosp 2078, paedtrician 1228, healthy baby 264 . hearing test cancelled

Gt birth certificate after 2weeks
Nig passport 240 expedited at d embassy n got it next day.
US passport 165 expedited n gt it next day at Washington passport agency.

Infant ticket with BA $349. De insisted baby's ticket is 1 way saying that's d remaining part of d trip as baby mst be attached to an adult else I purchase another ticket for myself returning to US. Payed at d airport on departure.

On board bassinet was provided, air hostess were of great help as I was alone from Washington to London. As usual entertainment was great.

Landed Abj 6th aftr the long layover very tired.
Mother and child are doing great thankfully.
Indeed my case has been different. Another testimony- gt a new job as I was away.

God's grace to everyone in d house.
Also met Tolu a fellow NL mama. It's been a pleasure meeting a friend and sister in diaspora.. We had a great time. .

Thanks to everybody for contributing to d success of this trip..AdomMum I really appreciate you.

Hello Nozzle, I intend using Henrico Doc Hosp, do u by any chance have info on good accomodation around the area. I have searched online but i keep seeing expensive prices. Can i send a pm? Please help. Thanks.

Nozzle:
Beejay
Check ur mail sent u a pm..

Dear Vamum, I know you have warned us not to PM you on this Richmond issue. Please help my ministry, can i pm you?

vamum:
You should be fine. The airports in DC (IAD/DCA) are about 2 hours (2 1/2 plus traffic) from Richmond VA. You can get an Uber costs about $200 for your comfort or a $15 greyhound bus or Amtrak < $50 from DC to Richmond depending on comfort level for you. Uber will be straight from the airport to destination others will include taxi to the station (greyhound/amtrak) and taxi to your destination from the station here in Richmond. Most people fly directly from the DC airports cos its cheaper, the only downside is the additional stress getting from Richmond to DC. If possible try and route your return flight out from Richmond so you don't have to deal with that additional road trip with the newborn.

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