LadyGuinivere:

Chloe is right . Nigerian customary marriage is not akin to either civil union or common law marriage. Common law marriage has no ceremony but the couple live together for a coupla years and are seen as married. Civil union is not recognized in some countries eg same sex marriages. Like somebody said, others is more appros.
My question however is, why do u want to change your status in the space of one month? Your matter already has k leg now u want them to 'mark you bad' sef before u enter the exam hall.the whoever accessing your form and interview notes may not even give u an opportunity to explain the difference and just chalk it to fraudulent intentions #myopinion

@Chloe Love a Lawyer! It is Legal

LadyGuinivere:

Thank U and God bless. U have set out the point I was trying to make out. When people discard logic for sentiments, it beats me. This is a support group but all the same, one that should state the hard facts to help both the person in present trouble, the silent readers and future readers.
@momsomy let me do what I'm trained to do. Bring out the weakness in your application so u can be prepared during the interview. And have honest answersm
1. U said, your only issue will be the change of intent. No it may not be so keep an open mind.
2. Be Prepared to answer why u stayed 6 months on a single entry visa whereas u applied for a conference abi? Did u finally attend the primary reason for that ist visa?
3.And as Leaky said, what happened to your job , who's to say u won't stay for one year now?
4. Assuming but not conceeding that u had no plans to birth the ist time hence u didn't declare it, why didn't u declare it the 2nd time?
I believe it won't even be wise for you to say 'because I wasn't asked'. That would piss off the VO.
5. Be prepared to answer Why you must birth in the usa.
6. Finally, I don't know if u have filled the form. There's a column for 'have u tried to enter the us by fraud or misrepresentation?' It is my opinion that u should state yes and that would give u a chance to plead your case before u go In. Clearly, your intention was childbirth and u said vacation only. So get it out there. This may be hard to do but even if u don't gettit now, u will be making the path easier next time.
Oh finally finally, please don't mention that u need to see a pediatrician.I think The former posters are right. Don't rub it in their face that the first visa was used to get an american baby without their consent.

nefertitiram:


There is common law marriage
There is civil union.

These are big big english for being traditional marriage and cohabitation. Some other countries use De facto relationship. Use those options rather than married or single for now

chloe7:
momsomyy, I think you should take note of what TheLeakyTribe said in the last post, also you are 30 weeks gone already if you want to reapply do that in time as I hear now that appointment dates are now like 1 month ahead of when you book, I don't know how true that is, just stick to the advice you have gotten from here, gather yourself and be prepared for whichever outcome, I pray you find favour.

Austine2020:
I think the main cause of the refusal might be that she birthed in the US with a wrong visa,because B1 doesn't cover medical,But B2 did. So she can come clean by applying for the right visa and tell the whole truth about her previous travel with all her burden of proof and hope that the VO will be fair to her,with the help of God she will be fine since she paid all her bills on the former one.

asikiye:
My SIL also over stayed. Hers was for almost one year. Her baby had serious health issues so she had a valid reason for staying. She paid all her bills but she has been denied twice this year even after changing location. She had her interview in Lagos, was denied. Switched to Abj, was also denied. I hope you get this sorted out.
@asikiye thanks for your input but my case is different I never overstayed my POE stamp, guess my offence was birthing a baby on a B1 1month annotated issued visa from here (Nigeria)

TheLeakyTribe:


Just wondering what you do for a living.

I'm really just trying to help when I say this.

You can't convince a VO that your initial decision to stay and have a baby was unplanned and still prove you have ties back home.

If you have a job for example, how do you suddenly just decide you're not going back to work you'd rather stay for months in the US to have a baby? It doesn't seem logical. I'm not sure there's anyway you can truly explain how you could just decide based on a 6 month stamp in that everything in Nigeria could wait and you would just stay to have a baby in the US. Please consider this before you tell a VO again that it wasn't planned.

MadameU:
From the little I have come to know about Visa issuance and/ or refusals; Perception, trends,body language and documentary evidence are a bunch of tools that aid in profiling an applicant as well as an officer's final decision. But the biggest and most volatile factors that often come to play are the officers mood, Personal judgement, temperament and local knowledge at that particular time.
That's why what works for one may not work for another..... 5k min or max doesn't guarantee all is or will be well...

There's no Visa refusal that is the end of a case or the end of the world, circumstances change; you just never really know.
So @Momsommy if you have the money and have given yourself some reality check please reapply ,then take time to chillax not withstanding the outcome. Youve been told what to do, and please as mentioned stick to your plans if granted. No change course.

phummy2:


@momsomy, it's always wise to come out clean whether asked or not. I remember my own experience, I did not plan to birth at the time of application but we decided to somewhere along the line and despite all d discouragement I got from a lot of people about declaring, I still went ahead to get my documents ready and just kept quiet when people told me not to declare knowing I would anyways and I was not asked about it but I still went ahead to inform d vo n got my visa even without being asked for any document and was just asked about my budget and how far gone I was cos I was not showing at all at that time. So for the benefit of first timers, pls declare your true intentions and have your documents in place and don't resort to change of intent abeg, they might just decide to start ignoring or canceling visas if it becomes too common.

TheLeakyTribe:


Questions in the interview are prompted by what you've filled in your form. If you want those questions asked so you can provide clarification on it then it is essential that you get them into the form one way or the other.

It's your decision to make what story you'd like your form to tell about you but my advice is for you to tell the exact true story relating to this visa so that even if you get a denial, next time they can refer back and see that you were being honest. That's how people rebuild trust.

bbaby84:


Hi mama,
I've read what everyone had to say/write to you and I think you should reapply .
This time, just like everyone said be truthfully. Read the thread and draw inspiration from those that never gave up..
Whatever the outcome, you'll know you tried your best to rectify the mistake from the past.
If you were not so far gone, I would have advised you to try Canada as well but I'm hopeful for your sake that your interview will be successful.
Many people have made mistakes like this in the past, some have been lucky while some were not.
Overall, just remember you're pregnant and don't stress yourself too much.
Good luck with everything.

nefertitiram:


Vcole, Modath, Firsttymum, where my peeps @!!! Only 2 years and we become Brazilians (All I know about Brazil is secrets of the sands, Raquel and Ruth).

But seriously, how does one get to rectify this kind of problem? Is it by going over and over again till you get a fair hearing? Lot's of people are in this category.

nefertitiram:


Ok, here is me being polite. Don't reapply for the next 5years, except you can ascertain you have not been banned.

I mentioned using an immigration lawyer, I think they are the ones that can get your banned or not banned status from the embassy. If you haven't been banned, you can go ahead to build a defence. If you have been banned, I heard Canada is pretty nice in summer and Brazil also gives citizenship

Porshebabymama:
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LadyG ututu oma my sister! Ur oversabi is out of this world Jare!!! Sabinus or sabi gurl choose one cause I'm christening you ..

At the bolded, that was my first thought wen I read your post @ momsommy. The cbp ofcr. Must hv just tested to see ur integrity and you fell yakaya ..Even VO dash u just 1month with annotation) but ya not opening ya eyes of understanding to torchlight d matter...Even sef u said in one post that u had no plans to deliver American pikin, then you later said you thought of attending the conference and then come back to apply for childbirth...sister which way na? ..Anyways you have done the deed and blown your 2nd chance kwa..I see only God's intervention helping you here and Honesty...since you're really determined to reapply read up( I think someone recently said something about explaining ur case in a space given, on d visa application form (check MadameU's recent posts) then call on God, arm yourself well and go back..

Sorry about your son's health and your stressful pregnancy..God will see you through...

TheLeakyTribe:


Hope you are doing well.

While I would have preferred thag you do not reapply at this time, if you insist on reapplying I would suggest that you do the following and make your reapplication more about being honest and starting to establish trust again with the embassy than about wanting to obtain the B2 visa at all costs.

Please consider the following if you can.

1. When filling the form state as much as you can to clearly show that you intend to have a baby again in the US.

E.g in reason for refusal, tell the absolute truth about all that has transpired.

In contact information use your intended doctor etc. In length of stay estimate and state the actual time you truly intend to stay.

2. I would advise against bringing in this baby needs to see a pediatrician angle. Quite frankly it looks to me like you're trying to anchor on your baby being a citizen to get a visa. This is not favourable to someone who is trying to prove non-immigrant intent in a visa application.

3. On whether you should even travel with your child or state that you're doing so. Would it be easy for you to establish any other ties to Nigeria (considering you already said you're not married to the the baby daddy?) What other ties can you rely on?

4. Ensure all documentation is available for the appointment ie doctor and hospital appointment, your budget etc.

5. Please don't state anything about having a sudden medical emergency while on the annotated visa, just tell the whole truth and be prepared to face the consequences.

6. In the event of an unfavourable interview please accept it as the consequence of your mistakes and do not reapply until circumstances have truly changed preferably on another pregnancy.

7.in the event of a favourable interview please do not exceed the stated time you applied with, pay your bills and return once you're done.

Ensure that you use the doctor/hospital as stated in your application.

I sincerely wish you the best.

feddy27:


Yes, you should state your kid

ebonychic18:
you erred by not sticking to what you came to do which was the conference. You should have gone back and reapplied. Even though it must have been stressful and not pocket friendly too. But then all this would've been avoided. Anyway I'm not a VO and so as not to sound as a messenger of doom. You can reapply siting childbirth and vacation as reason, get Dr correspondence, receipts etc. One more thing you mentioned that you are taking your other child to see his pediatrician? Really? The issue can't be handled by paediatricians here? You have to wait till you get to the US? Hmm...

nefertitiram:


B1 visa, Business conferences etc

B2 visa, Tourism/Medical


What you did is as good as working on a B2 visa (Abusing the term of a visa). I think you should administer 5yrs ban by yourself, or get the advise of an immigration lawyer. This one pass me

chloe7:
obviously you have filled your ds-160 form twice yourself now, the first when you got the visa the second when you were refused recently, na you go still fill am again this time around and sincerely, you want to go an birth there so simply declare your intentions in your ds 160 form get a doctor get a hospital, read the thread for tips on those who have gotten the visa and applied while they were pregnant, when you attend your interview explain yourself and be sincere, you kuku know that the outcome of the interview will be one of two things, all the best!

chloe7:
your situation is pretty complicated and the onus is on you to prove, so I don't know anyone who has been in your situation before, like everyone has said you already blew your chances of getting a visa when you overstayed the first , an annotation means your entry is simply restricted to coincide with the purpose of your visit, I wish you did it the proper way at first and not running from pillar to post now

LadyGuinivere:

That is not your only offence. It is an offence to not state that you are pregnant when u apply. Which u have done 2ice. If u want to reapply, then read the thread. And advice yourself on the proper course of action

LadyGuinivere:

From the above, my ist Observation is that u have abslutely no idea of the imlications of your actions. The second one is that you are still to learn that dishonesty in visa aplications is misrepresentation and a crime and one shouldn't even be asking if to commit a crime , publicly at that.
Let me point out your issues
1. You were pregnant the ist time and didn't declare-misrepresentation. Leave that story now that u didn't plan to birth there. In visa matters, the burden of proof (in the real sense and not documents to carry) is on u. I sincerely fail to see how u will convince the vo that your intention wasn't to birth ab initio. A reasonable man wouldn't be convinced.
2. Your visa was anotated. I don't know the annotation. U didn't specify. Maybe the cbp didn't see it or wanted to try u. And u fell into their trap. I'm guessing eithr your lenght of stay or purpose breached your visa condition.
3. You still went back and misrepresnted. Not stating a material fact is as bad as lying. The form states it clearly.
4. I read your post and between the lines 'to the best of your knowledge' What does that mean? When the fact that you didn't state your pregnancy and that comment, I'm of the opinion that your intentions have been dishonest from the get go and I'm not even a visa officer who Has harsher standards. What u didn't know was that the vo was waiting for u to come clean during that interview. That was your 2nd chance and u blew it.
From the above, you have serzly maligned your intergrity and it will be VERY hard to get a visa for this your pregnancy.
Your child is a citizen. You are not. His illness is not a grounds to give ua visa. If indeed he wants to see a pedatrecian as a matter of urgency, the us can actually find a way to send him to his country for treatment without u.
My advice for you is to sit this pregnancy out and try again in the future. The former posters are right, u may actually get a ban.

chloe7:
mama loads of misrepresentation in your application already, you were given one month visa with single entry and was stamped in 6 months and you decided to have your baby there, they stamped you in six months doesn't mean you should seat down there six months, obviously they saw the time you returned and you returned with a baby any v.o in his rightful common sense will refuse you o even the one whey dey sleep while reviewing your application will refuse you, now you are pregnant again you still no talk am, you would have chipped it in, I feel bad for you because by that singular act of yours you jeopardised your chances of birthing your other children in the U.S, you would have come back after that conference and reapplied.
Your paying your bills isn't the issue why you were denied mama, it's because of your misrepresentation which the v.o has seen as fraudulent and passing off. Your best bet now is reapply and pray to God and tell the whole truth, come clean to the new v.o you are 30 weeks gone, if God say Na there you go born na there, all the best with your new application o.

Omodadi2:


Maybe you should just give some time before you apply then...but there's no way your reasons won't be different now when you want to be truthful. I think you should just go ahead and pray hard.

favoredgal:
Momsomyy 'with a small bumb' meaning??

Shouldn't you have learnt your lesson now that honesty is the way to go

The fact that your visa was annotated the first time should have put you on alert - you were most likely pregnant and the VO could see it that's why you were given an annotated visa

Do yourself a favor and say the complete truth this time before you attract a permanent ban

Get a dr, prepare to show evidence that you can afford to birth there and hope for the best

Omodadi2:

@Omodadi2 Thanks for your response but the truth is I don't plan on lying, I just want to be as honest as I can be this time, my only worry is just how to go about it? So that my last week refusal does not jeopardize my chances seeing that the two travel intent differ. Thank you.

By reading this your story, it's obvious that you want to lie again just like the first time when you were given an a notated visa. What has bin preached here is honesty, so the advice you would probably get will be to go in a clean way. Birthing in the us is not a crime once you can afford it, so just try and get some backing documents to confirm what you are going to do and also that you can afford it. Best of luck!