whitelotus:



My brain is working when I am dreaming.

My brain wont work when I am dead.

A clear difference

whitelotus:



95% of the earth's water is salt water. You drink that water and you die.

lekbel09:
My brother I have been on this forum for a numer of years now and I am done trying to make people like you see the light.

If your reply is to make me start typing espistles this night then you've gotten the wrongest person.���

Believe waht you want but like it or not there is a God that created heaven and Earth and his name is Jehovah.




With this few points of mine I draw the curtain on our discussion


You didn't make any point. And wrongest is just laughable .
You are in no light. You're in a cult!
Peace

whitelotus:



I became an atheist after reading about slavery in the bible. It chilled me to the bone. Then, as time went on, I started seeing more and more contradicitions and then, I went on to find evidence for God............


long story short, your bible does not hold up to scrutiny

whitelotus:



I became an atheist after reading about slavery in the bible. It chilled me to the bone. Then, as time went on, I started seeing more and more contradicitions and then, I went on to find evidence for God............


long story short, your bible does not hold up to scrutiny

odinson1:

what I'm saying is that i refuse to believe in what no one has ever proven to exist.

Maximus69:


It's obvious you're just one of those misinformed churchgoers, so welcome my brothers and sisters coming to knock on your doors with their Bibles for discussion.

Malachi said that's what God's servants will be doing now {Malachi 3:16} and it's the only sign to know the true worshipers of God! Malachi 3:18

I'm not here to teach you, my brothers and sisters in your neighbourhood will do that, if you permit them!

whitelotus:



An omniscient God that knows everything that will happen is somehow jealous in the bible.

A God that doesn't change moved from vengeance in the old testament to peace/salvation in the new testament.

A God that is so good but allowed slavery as an institution s

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

whitelotus:



The universe is also poorly designed. If there is a creator, he or she must be somewhat reetarded. The universe is filled with vast amounts of empty space while the earth is 70% water. Just imagine that waste.

There is no proof of a god. even if there is a creator, he or she might just be some highly powered alien. See the engineers in the Alien/Prometheus movie franchise.

whitelotus:



The universe is also poorly designed. If there is a creator, he or she must be somewhat reetarded. The universe is filled with vast amounts of empty space while the earth is 70% water. Just imagine that waste.

There is no proof of a god. even if there is a creator, he or she might just be some highly powered alien. See the engineers in the Alien/Prometheus movie franchise.

odinson1:


you dont have to study logic in school for you to be an atheist
Everyone has common sense and therefore has the capability to do rational thinking and evaluation
which i did

whitelotus:



No one knows what happens after death. Near death experience is not death. People hallucinate at times in such extreme situations. All the christian pastors who claim that they went to heaven and back are all liars because they all tell different stories. The same bible they use says that God is not a god of confusion....so why are pastors telling confused stories?

Energy is converted, yes. But the human body is converted to fertilizer for the soil. A different energy without consciousness.




No comments. If you only swallow your pride and read the many comments of people who has partially died, confirmed dead by doctors and their experience you woudnt be saying this. Let me tell as a survivor of a Near death Experience. When you die, your are aware, you drift upwards, there is consciousness.

There is nothing like the soul. Only your consciousness.

whitelotus:



Is that what you think atheists do? Blame death of loved ones on God?

odinson1:


3. not possible,but if it were,then it would be a good start to prove either the creation story or the big ban theory

Plead:


You’re the dumbest individual I’ve encountered on nairaland.

Maximus69:


Just two to three comments and your ignorance will become obvious!

Spirit ~ Unseen intelligent being, God is a spirit {John 4:24} and all heavenly Creatures (angels) with him! Luke 20:36

Ghost ~ The living dead, humans who formerly lived but at death became unseen beings walking around (this idea is from pagan origin because God's word says the dead don't know anything) Psalms 146:4 ; Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

So the text translated as "Holy Ghost" is wrong Sir. The correct interpretation of that text is "Holy Spirit"!

Further more what exactly do you expect of genuine Christians as you discard what Jesus himself said about how to identify his REAL followers?

odinson1:

1.no i didn't study philosophy (logic)

2. Well,i was born and not created

And i dont understand your 3rd question

Plead:


And these things came about because of what? God?

The irony is that assuming Europeans didn’t bring Christianity to Africa all of you would never have heard about this God that y’all are defending now.

odinson1:


Science proposed the Big bang theory as a probable explanation,Though there are no evidence yet to verify it

so i will no one actually knows that Answer....yet
oh and Atheism is not a religion,dont make false claims

odinson1:


Science proposed the Big bang theory as a probable explanation,Though there are no evidence yet to verify it

so i will no one actually knows that Answer....yet
oh and Atheism is not a religion,dont make false claims

odinson1:

ok then it is the Belief that God does not exist

odinson1:

"If you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of things in the past that the physicists at the time didn’t understand [and now we do understand] [...]. If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on - so just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem."
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson

Maximus69:


And what makes you sure you're not making a big mistake?

Jesus said "my group will become objects of hatred by all peoples" Matthew 5:11-12, 10:22, 24:9; Luke 21:15

Jesus said "they accused me of being a Satanist, so my true followers will also be accused of being Satanists (cultists)" Matthew 10:24-25

Jesus said "those who remain in my teachings will be IDENTIFIED by the strong bond (Love) in their midst" John 13:34-35

So if you now think those who don't have any of these are the REAL Christians i doubt if you have the spirit to discern after reading! Matthew 7:16-18

odinson1:


Atheism is simply absence of Belief in a diety,it is not a philosophy or religion

jonbellion:
The worst part is that they are comfortable with thought of a deity punishing about 5,2 billion people for all eternity because they were in the "wrong religion"
Very nonsense concept of a supreme being

whitelotus:



Life is intrinsically meaningless. We are but a speck of dust compared to the total size of the universe. We live only to die. Every day we live is an other day closer to death. An asteroid could land on the earth and blow all of us to smithereens tomorrow.


Life lacks meaning. This does not mean that we cannot give our lives meaning. For example, there is a stone in my field- it is useless but i can choose to make it useful- I can choose to use it as a grinding stone or a weapon.

Think of life as a blank slate or chalkboard. It has no words or drawings on it. No meaning. It is our choice to either write on it or leave it blank.
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If you want to know how meaningless life is, just look at your Jesus. He really died for nothing. His torment at the cross did not even yield him followers among the Jews- his own people. Most Jews are not christian. Furthermore, almost 70% of people in the world are not christians. His message did not even move close to half of the world. And the numbers of christians are dwindling. Not only that, christianity has been so perverted today, that many even ask if Christians are truly like Christ.

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As an atheist and a humanist, I try to enjoy my life and make this world a better place because it is the only life I will have with my consciousness. I alone give my life the meaning or purpose that I want it to have.




You're partly right. The meaning of life is what we give it but at the same thing you're pandering to nihilism.
And Jesus didn't die for nothing. He died to save mankind. I suggest you listen to the late Ravi Zachrias to clear up a lot of stuff. What do you think is the problem of human race? What are the core needs of existence. It is meaning, Purpose, Origin and destiny. Atheism denies these things and yet they seek it at the back doors.

Maximus69:
@ Whitelotus!

Well it's about the concept of a Supreme Being (God).

Though ATHEISTS claims that humans can achieve PEACE on their own without the idea of God or Gods, but the God of the Bible foretold something really strange!

He said during the time when he is about to judge evildoers on this planet, PEACE will be taken away from the earth, and there will be no human society or group that will unite peacefully without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties to scare them from revolting against their own constituted authorities.

God said that is the time he will prove his power by uniting faithful individuals from different races under one umbrella in his own name, they will settle all their racial differences and bury prejudice so that PEACE will reign amongst them!

None of them will carry weapons for no reason whatsoever because from one extremity of the earth to the other extremity of the earth they will view themselves as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

What really amazes me is what God said that this will be done when no human society is at PEACE!

So he gave them a name that every nation of the earth will hear for a sign that there is no THEORY they can fabricate that will be able to achieve anything close to what they will see amongst his own people!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

whitelotus:


1. Let me give you a contradiction. If God is omniscient and knows the future, why does he get jealous? The bible says that God is a jealous god. He knows what will happen so why should be be emotional?


2. There are natural things that science cannot explain. Supernatural by definition does not exist.

3. Ok

4. I would say that I am non religious. I dont follow any religion

whitelotus:



1. I became an atheist after leaving christianity and studying Islam. I left both religions because they were both complicit in the enslavement of africans. They also had contradictions in there holy books. They also lack any evidence for their God.

2. All miracles are staged magic tricks. No amputee has ever grown his or her limbs back in a church or shrine.

3. If I die, I do not know what happens next. My educated guess is that I will return to nothing. I assume it would be like before I was born.

4. I survive by keeping my beliefs personal. I survive by working hard. God will not just put money into your pocket.

whitelotus:



1. I became an atheist after leaving christianity and studying Islam. I left both religions because they were both complicit in the enslavement of africans. They also had contradictions in there holy books. They also lack any evidence for their God.

2. All miracles are staged magic tricks. No amputee has ever grown his or her limbs back in a church or shrine.

3. If I die, I do not know what happens next. My educated guess is that I will return to nothing. I assume it would be like before I was born.

4. I survive by keeping my beliefs personal. I survive by working hard. God will not just put money into your pocket.