₦airaland Forum

IronGalaxy:
Can an American tell me to "fuckuff" from Youtube because it's American? LOL. Im on this forum, using my resources not like your leeches feeding of our system and hijacking our buildings. So please..

Says the entitled Saffa who's government is running borrowing money to fund basic income payment for his people while poor Immigrants are able to scratch out a living in the same country.

Shame!

IronGalaxy:
Again, Bantu education products are smarter than I what i encounter here..by far, whether you perceive that as lies, that's your business

Your statement is the equivalence of saying because you visit a Nigerian bar there in SOuth AFrica everyday and hear a bunch of Nigerians quarrel about issues then that sample size is representative of the majority of Nigerians.

You are an im.becile!

IronGalaxy:
We dont want you.
But then again..who does?

You can't even stand Venda or shangaan people who are your fellow citizens talkless of anyone else.

IronGalaxy:
You are in no position to ask me questions, denounce your people and keep it moving .

I denounce any slowpoke who would move to a xenophobic country like South Africa who doesn't want "him" but wants his "money"

IronGalaxy:
Lol. The by-now tired "bantu education" jibe

Facts can never get "tired". They are what they are?

IronGalaxy:
2.And.. Someone who studied under bantu education is far smarter than most of the fluff you find here on Nairaland who say stuff like this.." the whiteman is superior "LMFAO.

Comparatively speaking that would be a bold face lie.

IronGalaxy:
3 You have no business in telling me to "voetsek" on a forum you have no input in, that's owned by someone in a private capacity, that's on the internet...a virtual space with no borders

Virtual spaces are indeed spaces my dear boy. They are owned and operated by people on a legal basis much like cities, countries and the likes are operated, the only difference being the absence of our physical bodies.

IronGalaxy:
The question you should be asking why are you nuiscances wherever you find your loud selves and stop deflecting.

Answer the question I asked and I will oblige you an answer.

If you can.

Olodo!

IronGalaxy:
Lol. typical nonsense. I can't go to Lagos with my bros to occupy someone's building, unattended or not, that's not your property.

Again how do a bunch of Nigerians without an army, an extensive arsene of weapons and no legal backing Hijack a building in the middle of Joburg.

Oh I forgot they are following in the footsteps of your people who are hijacking and occupying land and spaces round the country, no?

IronGalaxy:
you IQ? Go to sleep man
Forget about Cape Town, another man's country, focus on your ritual killings over there.

Forget about Nairaland, What are you doing here, voetsek yourself away from here and focus on expanding the bantu education you have unfortunately received from your SABC and ignorant patriotic politicians.

JaceBlaze:
It's embedded in the genetics.We are not surprised by such anymore,we are just wondering what South African lost his brain and thought it was a good idea to flood our shores with uncultured people from Worst..I mean West Africa.

Says the GBV killing South Africans.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9CPPQ0K9u8

TjoBATHONG:
I hear Shoprite left y'all coz your dirt poor Oh Africa, imagine a so called giant of Africa with its payroll paying oil oligarchs who cant afford to shop at Shoprite and Mr Price (poor man's shops in SA) . AFRICA HOW FAR

Shop rite left because they couldn't compete. The left their retail side of the business and kept the property development side you dodo head.

If you walk into any Shoprite you will no longer see south african products in there. Everything is locally sourced or run by Nigerian buisinesses.

IronGalaxy:
The ANC really cost us. Our city became a free-for-all under them.

After you take it back it will still not improve your IQ levels. The DA will sell the whole area to the highest bidder white monopoly capitalist. Haven't you seen what's going on in the city bowl in cape town?

IronGalaxy:
Nonsense! you guys just never own up to anything do you? Always playing victim.Its always the "black South Africans' fault.. how do you know that term is used by blacks only or not? Madness

Nobody hijacked your buildings, you just left them unattended.

As someone said on this forum, how can someone hijack a building in your own country. What army or weapons did they use to hijack it.

IronGalaxy:
It was in the news here in SA. A lot of Nigerians hikack these buildings and turn them into slums, the once vibrant Hillbrow, Yeoville, Berea, Bertrams, Observatory etc, are slums now and no South African dare set their feet over there

WHy can't you set your foot there. Are you afraid of Nigerians?

TjoBATHONG:
Morpheus24, Ikillbrokehoes, parrot69 is that one of you guys taking chances The ANC is out of power in Joburg now - the free ride (and rent ) is over.

cc IronGalaxy,

You are indeed an idiot. When have I ever support hijacking of buildings by anyone.

This is your xenophobic nature rearing its ugly head on nairaland.

YEBOmadiba:
there are South Africans who choose to patronise, and there are others who choose not to

Then why are you complaining about them. Why don't your camouflage soldiers educate your people on how not to support "foreign" businesses and instead head to Pic and pay which is a South African establishment so they can support "South African" businessess.

YEBOmadiba:
students wouldn't mind these jobs like everywhere else in the world but they've been kicked out by people who have their own countries

Which students are you talking about. Students in university who would rather collect bursaries and sit on government loans for 4 years to come out of university waiting for jobs to be created for them. Ha! I laugh in Zulu.

YEBOmadiba:
when was the last time you walked into a Chinese, Ethiopian, Somali or Nigerian shop and found a South African employed there instead Zimbabweans, Malawians and Mozambicans

Are you jealous of the Mozambican who is employed at low wages in a Spaza shop. Immigrant communities will usually support immigrant communities because they insulate themselves from the dangers of the dominant society/population.

If I owned a shop I would employ a less priviledged personas he does not have access to the dominant society at large. Your people on the other hand can move anywhere, work anywhere, go to the banks and get loans, access any services in your country. It is your country and not ours.

YEBOmadiba:
Oh lawd! Try making your answers shorter dude, like dang!

No what you should do is take as much time needed to read them. You are not under any pressure to answer them immediately.

I know its frustrating but learn.

YEBOmadiba:
Anyway, do u think there was no life and enterprise before foreign nationals arrived in SA According to your logic black South Africans didn't have their hair cut or goods driven around in trucks.

The above is not the point. The pint is who are the people patronizing these barber shops and hair dressing salons. If its your people., why?

YEBOmadiba:
The skills are there - they've just been overlooked for cheaper foreign slave labour - that's the main issue here.

That's the narrative that keeps getting spread as the reality. Most of the labour you are speaking of that is exploitative is mostly farm work labor and service industry jobs such as waiters, domestic workers, retail e.t.c. These are industries your people are running away from already because of the low pay and indignity.

None the less when is the last time you walked into a woolworths, pic and pay or shoprite where the cashier was a congolese, a rwandan or a Nigerian?

YEBOmadiba:
gibberish. how can people from failed states who work for slave wages outwit us? undecided The point is that it's a substantial number of people

Again if you remove the illegal foreign nationals from the informal sector and low skilled jobs like hair dressing salons, street vendors, barber shops, truck drivers and the likes are your people coming to replace them? What plans have been put in place to implement this comeback?

Are there on going programs to train a mass of people to become truck drivers, hair dressers, spaza shop owners?

If and when they replace them, who is coming to those locations to patronize? Jobless local South Africans with no money?

What percentage of informal sector jobs makes up the entire available employment sector?

Who and why are you patronizing these informal sector workers. If you simply stopped going to the Spaza shops, local pakistani cell phone shops and hair dressing salons owned by "these" foreigners how will they thrive? You are 60 million strong neh?

YEBOmadiba:
what's the percentage of 5 mil to 60 million - Einstein? undecided Is it not around 8% like I said?

So lets grant you your 5 million illegal immigrant population. How does this percentage threaten a total population of 60 million people in a space where the locals basically out number and control. Apart from street corners, small shops in locations what other positions of power do these foreigners occupy that influences government policies towards bettering your peoples plight that you can elaborate for us here?

Poignant questions you conveniently dodge with one liner comeback.

YEBOmadiba:
4% or almost 8%?

South Africa does not have over 5 million illegal immigrants living in their country. It does have an influx of immigrants mostly from the southern hemisphere of which that would be logical seeing that is the most vibrant economic hub in that area.

If you are successful in removing half of that population from your country you will still have the same percentage of joblessness irregardless because on the supply side of the economic model you are not growing.

YEBOmadiba:
What's the percentage of whites in SA and their influence? And then tell me again that South Africans need not worry about such a large population of foreign nationals similar to that of the white.

Last time I checked the white population stood at about 5 million and the colored population at the same rate mostly concentrated in the Western cape. Ahh I see you are afraid these immigrants will outwit you economically as the whites did yet you outnumber them 10 to 1.

If that is not Xenophobia at its finest and don't knwo what is.

YEBOmadiba:
Bantu education is saying 3 million Zimbabweans in a population of 60 million people in SA amounts to 1% of the population ? Nigerian inferior literacy rates at work!

I correct my stats- "The immigrant population in South Africa stands at 4% of the population of South Africa.

Now even with the "correction" in those stats and given the population of Africans as a percentage of the entire population of Africa the premise put fore-ward does not falter.

How is it that the whole of Africa is in your country?

See below and Listen carefully to your future xenophobic camouflage wearing leader who is dressed up for battle but can't go into drug dens to battle those there and juxtapose it to a more level headed intellectual who articulates the foreign national and informal sector issue brilliantly with action behind it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyMukGuf2Ec


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGelLE1s_N8

YEBOmadiba:
"there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric.

What part of the above statement is incorrect?

YEBOmadiba:
He doesnt need to "advocate for mass immigration into SA" coz it's already happened - half of Zimbabwe (and Africa ) is here and advocates against their deportation through his "there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric.

This is the nonsense that you and people like Mashaba continue to spew and the rest of your illiterate population swallow up.

Granted that there is an illegal immigration problem in SA the estimated population of Immigrants as a whole stands at about 1% of the entire population in South Africa.

of the largest number of immigrants, 3 million are an estimated Zimbabwean and compared to its 15 million population size constitutes one third and not half of Zimbabweans. The proximity being the most contributing factor to the size

Of the entire 1 billion Africans on the continent with Nigeria, Egypt and Ethiopia being the largest populations, less than .001% are in South Africa.

You my friend are spewing false narratives.

Just because you see them all curled up in Hilbrow doesn't mean they are that many.

Bantu education I tell you.

YEBOmadiba:
I know the same way u know about Tembisa, Alex and Diepsloot.

Tembisa is not as bad as they make it out to be.

in fact there is a popular Chis nyama place thre I used to frequent, very good Brai. I forget the name now.

Have you been?

YEBOmadiba:
If u think Malema having meetings with Zuma has nothing to do with both of them planning on how to stay out of jail for corruption then you've finally proven u know nothing about SA like u claim to all day and night on this forum.

Where is the evidence of your claim. If non there then we it is heresay.

YEBOmadiba:
Lol, u think your 'President of Africa' wants any of you not to come to SA or be deported. Get real son.

Its not what I "think" or what you assume he is "implying". It is what he continues to state and do that intelligent people rely on.

Julius continues to point at the powerful economic forces at hand that are "driving" this influx of immigrants and has chastised the Zimbabwean government for allowing a large influx of their people into S. Africa as well as state that Criminal elements in the country should be treated as such "criminals".

I have heard no advocation for mass immigration into the country in any of his rhetoric but your slow brains don't seemto understand because you are looking for a messiah like figure to come save you from these "savage" illegals.

You still haven't answered any of my questions and are trying to use what's called a "straw man" to lead us away from the question posed to you.

YEBOmadiba:
What's Malema about? 3 years ago he was shooting Zuma Must Fall - today he's having coffee with him and jointly discrediting the judiciary.

Politicians are not enemies but opponents, if he has coffee with an opponent and someone reads extra into that well there you go.

Is there anywhere he stated that he will never speak to Jacob Zuma nor have tea with him. Even the Whites Malema chastises all day still invite him to speeches and engagements. What's your point?

YEBOmadiba:
I know anywhere over the Limpopo it's considered normal to overburden infrastructure, openly defecate and throw your soiled tissues wherever u please.

You are digressing. Where have you been on this beautiful continent of ours to qualify some of your statements?

YEBOmadiba:
What's Malema about? 3 years ago he was shooting Zuma Must Fall - today he's having coffee with him and jointly discrediting the judiciary.

Can you answer the question regarding the video I posted as to your stated stance of Mashaba on what it is you say he stands for?

The fool is going to reveal his Xenophobia sooner or later, just wait.

YEBOmadiba:
illegal immigrants and consequent infrastructure decay, plus the hiring of cheap illegal labour and subsequent tax dodging

So what is this video about then.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iW2op6EUXU

YEBOmadiba:
lol, I guess when he says Africa is for Africans he means he's PRO current immigration laws and therefore emphatically DISCOURAGES mass immigration into SA

You are adding context that is not explicitly stated in the statement.

Saying Africans is for Africans can mean many things. Where did he state that he encouraged all of Africa coming to South Africa to work or where he states that every illegal crossing the borders is free to break SA immigration laws.

YEBOmadiba:
U missed the point. I'm talking about the general decay over there

Oh I got your point alright.

Question, have you ever been to anywhere outside of the Limpopo to qualify some of your statements? ( Please forgive me I know you all are tired of this reference to the limpopo but I gather many of you haven't crossed those boundaries which is why i constantly refer back to it)

YEBOmadiba:
I wonder where that "toilet paper" will end up. And then u say u didn't mess up Hillbrow

Haven't seen toilet paper on the roads in Hilbrow before, when was the last time you visited?

YEBOmadiba:
Won't go anywhere but stagnant and even declining

Temporary decline much like that of the ANC who will rebound as they did when Cope initially splintered. The DA is the party to watch, it is backed by real cash and that's exteremely important in politics

YEBOmadiba:
You're also an emotional observer coz Malema's got your heart due his pro-immigrant stance. That's why you're ready to discredit the SA judicial system as "attempts to bring him down".

Mfana, I've been following Malema long enough to understand his ideology, politics and ambitions. As far as pro immigrant. I am really not sure what is wrong with Malema taking a stance on immigration in the affirmative. I have never seen nor heard the man promote illegal immigration nor advocate for economic migrants into the country. What are do see is a pragmatist who understands far better the realities on the ground an who aligns and promotes his policies based on that, versus another politician who seeks populist support in the hopes of gaining numbers by preying on the fears of jobless in South Africans

What is Mashaba against can you clarify for me again, is it immigrants in general, Legal immigrants, Illegal immigrants, black migrant workers, economic migrants in general, asylum seekers, border security, incompetent home affairs or just people who aren't South African living in South Africa?

YEBOmadiba:
I wonder if u wipe yourselves using rocks... or dead rats lying around... or spray your bums with that sewage flowing into your taps.

If you zoom in much closer to your pics you will see an individual holding what looks to be toilet paper.

YEBOmadiba:
that's exactly what Zondo and the moderators did. That shouldn't stop me from declaring Malema a 2-faced snake who's now trying to discredit the judiciary because he faces multiple current and impending legal challenges himself and his new RET buddies

Won't be the first time attempts have been made at trying to bring him down, the man just keeps on churning.

YEBOmadiba:
What's the use of remaining on the scene with stagnant electoral votes. As it is he's facing a huge wave of criticism and potential loss of support going forward because of his association with Zuma, attacks on the judiciary for selfish reasons, and support for the entrenchement of Ogastans in Gauteng

HE will remain relevant because your electorate are short term emotional voters who can't see the bigger picture of what is coming in terms of SA politics and as your nationalist candidates reveal their stupidity on air, the strong Malema will outlive them.

I've been following the evolution of the dude for a while and he aint going no where anytime soon in politics.