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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 8:51pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
morpheus101: U answer why your king Malema is an unprincipled perennial flip-flopper. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 8:53pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
morpheus101: I know the same way u know about Tembisa, Alex and Diepsloot. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 8:57pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
morpheus101: If u think Malema having meetings with Zuma has nothing to do with both of them planning on how to stay out of jail for corruption then you've finally proven u know nothing about SA like u claim to all day and night on this forum. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 8:58pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: Its not what I "think" or what you assume he is "implying". It is what he continues to state and do that intelligent people rely on. Julius continues to point at the powerful economic forces at hand that are "driving" this influx of immigrants and has chastised the Zimbabwean government for allowing a large influx of their people into S. Africa as well as state that Criminal elements in the country should be treated as such "criminals". I have heard no advocation for mass immigration into the country in any of his rhetoric but your slow brains don't seemto understand because you are looking for a messiah like figure to come save you from these "savage" illegals. You still haven't answered any of my questions and are trying to use what's called a "straw man" to lead us away from the question posed to you. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 9:00pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: Where is the evidence of your claim. If non there then we it is heresay. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 9:02pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: Tembisa is not as bad as they make it out to be. in fact there is a popular Chis nyama place thre I used to frequent, very good Brai. I forget the name now. Have you been? |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 9:26pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
morpheus101: No, never even been to Tembisa. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 9:28pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
morpheus101: it's clear for everyone to see. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 9:31pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
morpheus101: He doesnt need to "advocate for mass immigration into SA" coz it's already happened - half of Zimbabwe (and Africa ) is here and advocates against their deportation through his "there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 9:50pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:This is the nonsense that you and people like Mashaba continue to spew and the rest of your illiterate population swallow up. Granted that there is an illegal immigration problem in SA the estimated population of Immigrants as a whole stands at about 1% of the entire population in South Africa. of the largest number of immigrants, 3 million are an estimated Zimbabwean and compared to its 15 million population size constitutes one third and not half of Zimbabweans. The proximity being the most contributing factor to the size Of the entire 1 billion Africans on the continent with Nigeria, Egypt and Ethiopia being the largest populations, less than .001% are in South Africa. You my friend are spewing false narratives. Just because you see them all curled up in Hilbrow doesn't mean they are that many. Bantu education I tell you. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 9:57pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: What part of the above statement is incorrect? |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 1:36pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
morpheus101: You're smarter than that. U know exactly what Malema's intentions are with such a statement. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 1:39pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
morpheus101: Bantu education is saying 3 million Zimbabweans in a population of 60 million people in SA amounts to 1% of the population ? Nigerian inferior literacy rates at work! |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 6:02pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
fergie001: Just in - Mpumalanga in the lead
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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 6:04pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:Rama should overturn it. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 6:12pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
fergie001: I think I can stomach her appointment. Your faves are retiring soon and the one man left has rumours of sexual assault bedeviling him. I think she's the only one offering hope - I saw a snippet of her address regarding women's rights (didn't watch anything on her before then) and she kinda did it for me. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 6:24pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:Why should she not vie in 3 years time? This sentiment coming to an interview and crying doesn't work or move me. I know the age issue is why they are considering her but she isn't a member of the ConCourt and might bring in a legal quagmire even though it is Constitutionally permissible. Bringing someone from the SCA to head those who have been in the ConCourt is somehow, well they know best but they are setting a precedent that might bring up some problems later. In Nigeria, you can't be Chief Justice if you are not in the Supreme Court (our own version of ConCourt). The next in line wrt seniority will normally walk into it. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 6:34pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
fergie001: That makes sense but sometimes the aspirants within the Concourt might be compromised and not worthy of the promotion. I see how brining in an outsider could be unpalatable. U make valid points - honestly I havent been invested in this whole process. Let's see what Rama says - I'm surprised the commission came to a decision so quickly - less than 24 hours. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 6:46pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:You have Judges who sit on the ConCourt and listen to appeals that come from Maya's Court...then all of a sudden, Maya comes in as their Head. It definitely will cause some rancour.... In Nigeria, our Court of Appeal President (your version of SCA) rejects moving to the Higher Court because they technically screen those who move to the higher Court. The position of SCA President is already a big enough position and is the 3rd most powerful in SA Judiciary after the CJ & DCJ. Can you imagine a ConCourt with Maya as head and with Zondo & Madlanga as juniors . You will see massive resignation of she is sworn-in. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 8:35am On Feb 07, 2022 |
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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 3:26pm On Feb 07, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: I correct my stats- "The immigrant population in South Africa stands at 4% of the population of South Africa. Now even with the "correction" in those stats and given the population of Africans as a percentage of the entire population of Africa the premise put fore-ward does not falter. How is it that the whole of Africa is in your country? See below and Listen carefully to your future xenophobic camouflage wearing leader who is dressed up for battle but can't go into drug dens to battle those there and juxtapose it to a more level headed intellectual who articulates the foreign national and informal sector issue brilliantly with action behind it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyMukGuf2Ec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGelLE1s_N8 |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 1:27pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
fergie001: If JSC has no power to recommend then what was the use of the interviews |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 1:35pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
morpheus101: 4% or almost 8%? What's the percentage of whites in SA and their influence? And then tell me again that South Africans need not worry about such a large population of foreign nationals similar to that of the white. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 2:01pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:Usually, they will screen and submit their recommendations to the President who can pick any of the four. Rama still reserves the rights to pick any of the four. The SA Constitution does not compel the President to pick the JSC's preferred nominee...once the four have been screened in, he is at liberty to pick any. Remember Dikgang & that mad man Mogoeng. In Nigeria usually, the NJC (our own version of JSC) will submit the most senior to the President leaving him no choice. However, conventionally, the two most senior is submitted to him then he can pick any of his choosing. Their screening and recommendations are usually secret. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 2:23pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
fergie001: Yes, the key word being "recommendations". So why is Thuli saying the JSC has no right to recommend when they're the ones who conducted the interviews. Yes, we get it the President is the ultimate decision maker but if the JSC can't guide him then what's the purpose of their involvement? |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 2:55pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:It's just like half a dozen and six. The part he is stressing is that, it shouldn't have been public. Any recommendation(s) should have been under wraps. Usually, they will submit all four names with their respective scores, strengths and weaknesses. That should have been the pattern, because now they are democratically setting up the President. If he doesn't pander to Maya, he becomes an enemy to many. Well, that's to him but here, before the interviews the President already has his own 'man'. Even if you place him last with zeros all through, the President will appoint him. 1 Like |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 3:06pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
fergie001: I get you . But then it shouldn't have been televised coz that sets up public expectations. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 3:08pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
fergie001: "This is jealousy"
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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 3:18pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: South Africa does not have over 5 million illegal immigrants living in their country. It does have an influx of immigrants mostly from the southern hemisphere of which that would be logical seeing that is the most vibrant economic hub in that area. If you are successful in removing half of that population from your country you will still have the same percentage of joblessness irregardless because on the supply side of the economic model you are not growing. YEBOmadiba: Last time I checked the white population stood at about 5 million and the colored population at the same rate mostly concentrated in the Western cape. Ahh I see you are afraid these immigrants will outwit you economically as the whites did yet you outnumber them 10 to 1. If that is not Xenophobia at its finest and don't knwo what is. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 3:32pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 4:18pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba: Again if you remove the illegal foreign nationals from the informal sector and low skilled jobs like hair dressing salons, street vendors, barber shops, truck drivers and the likes are your people coming to replace them? What plans have been put in place to implement this comeback? Are there on going programs to train a mass of people to become truck drivers, hair dressers, spaza shop owners? If and when they replace them, who is coming to those locations to patronize? Jobless local South Africans with no money? What percentage of informal sector jobs makes up the entire available employment sector? Who and why are you patronizing these informal sector workers. If you simply stopped going to the Spaza shops, local pakistani cell phone shops and hair dressing salons owned by "these" foreigners how will they thrive? You are 60 million strong neh? YEBOmadiba: So lets grant you your 5 million illegal immigrant population. How does this percentage threaten a total population of 60 million people in a space where the locals basically out number and control. Apart from street corners, small shops in locations what other positions of power do these foreigners occupy that influences government policies towards bettering your peoples plight that you can elaborate for us here? Poignant questions you conveniently dodge with one liner comeback. |
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 4:32pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
YEBOmadiba:The JSC wanted to do it to show some transparency. I think Zondo is the target. It is obvious, they do not want him knowing that's Rama's first choice and Mlambo his second. Madlanga & Maya are on their own. Madlanga'a weakness is just his years left to serve. |
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