Christianity Etc › Re: The Dichotomy Of The Imminent American Invasion Of Syria by MostHigh: 2:09pm On Sep 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: i wish she would tell me why i need to clap for myself. i detect a strong hint of sarcasm  The sister got jokes Sire.  She tryin to wind you up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Dichotomy Of The Imminent American Invasion Of Syria by MostHigh: 2:01pm On Sep 10, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby: Please endeavor to clap for yourself....slowly.....like this dude right here >>>>>>>>>>>  Wassup TPB. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do Xtians Explain That The Book Of Jude Quotes The Apocryphal Book Of Enoch? by MostHigh: 1:25pm On Sep 10, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Crazeman. Give me your gal digit wHY WOULD A MAN TAKE SO MUCH PRIDE IN TALKING ABOUT SHAKING HIS BUM BUM?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do Xtians Explain That The Book Of Jude Quotes The Apocryphal Book Of Enoch? by MostHigh: 12:29pm On Sep 10, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Someone is going mad here.
Im a guy...give me your gal digit and let her confirm this. Why are you scared? You are a liar.  You are more woman than diana ma sef.  Why come here and be deciving people, what do you hope to gain? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Dichotomy Of The Imminent American Invasion Of Syria by MostHigh: 11:24am On Sep 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: whats good Chief. Trust all is well with you  All is well Sire.  How is your endzzz? We give thanks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do Xtians Explain That The Book Of Jude Quotes The Apocryphal Book Of Enoch? by MostHigh: 11:21am On Sep 10, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Abeg, let Chukwudi and Folykaze handle this.
Enigma, most High and truthisight are just contaminating this thread.
Please, carry your anti-catholic hate elsewhere, let others learn about the bible ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do Xtians Explain That The Book Of Jude Quotes The Apocryphal Book Of Enoch? by MostHigh: 11:20am On Sep 10, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Dont forget to inform your boss that tomorrow is sept 11...... Hey!! Madam bum bum shaker. How you dey? Still shaking that bum bum I can see.  Notin do you untill the nukes arrive  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do Xtians Explain That The Book Of Jude Quotes The Apocryphal Book Of Enoch? by MostHigh: 10:46am On Sep 10, 2013 |
Enigma: Lots of hot air over something which is not a problem for a Christian theologically or otherwise.
And to give the lie to Roman Catholic and others' falsehoods about the canon of the Bible, the Ethiopian Church includes the Book of Enoch in its Bible and canon. So can one then, strictly, say that the Book of Enoch is not part of "the Bible" or is not part of "the Biblical Canon"!
In any event, the passages from the book of Enoch are themselves taken from Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the traditional Old Testament.
There are other matters about the book but increasingly it is not really worthwhile discussing these things in an atmosphere of such ignorance, lack of wisdom and pandering to people with an agenda. Spot on Sire.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do Xtians Explain That The Book Of Jude Quotes The Apocryphal Book Of Enoch? by MostHigh: 10:42am On Sep 10, 2013 |
superior1: The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) are estimated to date from about 300 BC, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably was composed at the end of the 1st century BC (wikipedia)
@OP, some parts of the book was written in 300 BC and others as late as 1BC, meaning after Jesus must have been given birth to. Now Enoch lived before Noah which predates Abraham, Moses etc. That will probably 2000 BC. Isreal's Captivity in the time of Daniel was around 700 BC, so how can Enoch be alive to write the book of Enoch in 1BC?
It is wholly extant only in the Ge'ez language, with Aramaic fragments from the Dead Sea Scrolls and a few Greek and Latin fragments. For this and other reasons,(wikipedia)
Part of the book is written in Latin and Greek, even we can't prove Enoch neither spoke Geez and Aramaic, a little sense will tell anybody he never spoke greek nor latin.
Now, let me give you 2 scenarios
1. If we have an adage we use in my mother tongue which has been use for a long time, if 2 separate authors quote the adage in their book, it never mean one copied another, it may mean both are aware of that adage
2. If an author A quoted author B in his writing but author A's book was talking about a more ancient history compared to that of author B, it doesn't mean author B copied A.
Finally, the book of Enoch wasn't accepted among the majority of Isreal, whereas there was consensus about others canonised, the odds are Jude won't quote from such book. Most Biblical scholars believe the scenario 1 is what took place but there was no doubt the author wasn't Enoch.
Book of Enoch is nothing but a fraud. If it is a fraud as you say then why did jude quote from it? Why do the easten and oriental orthodoxy accecpt it as authentic?# western christopagan traditions dont know it all mr man, try and look to the east.  Listen to yaself. You might as well call the whole bible a fraud |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Dichotomy Of The Imminent American Invasion Of Syria by MostHigh: 10:27am On Sep 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: its all a game of chess. keep watching my friend.
isaiah 17 vs 1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap Top of the morning to you Sire.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create People Before Adam And Eve? by MostHigh: 9:23am On Sep 10, 2013 |
haibe: I tot we have discussed the issue of cain getting his wife before, well after lots of arguments we never arrived at a definite conclusion but here is my say:
First, i will like to establish that the birth of females are not usually concentrated on in the scriptures, for example you will hardly find where the bible says adam begat (*daughter's name*) but you will find adam begat cain, abel, seth, etc seth begat enos, enos begat cainan, cainan begat mahalaleel and so on, but hardly will you see the bible recognizing the birth of a female child like those males i gave above, we can't say they never had daugters right?, rather you just have 'and adam begat sons and daugters' or 'and seth begat sons and daugters', that's how we know they had daughters too, we were not given the daugters names or let me say their names weren't recorded as it is done for some of the males.
So does that mean adam did not give birth to daugters before giving birth to seth?? No, adam must have given birth to daughters before he gave birth to seth but because the birth of daugters were not usually recorded we may think he gave birth to only "cain and abel" before seth which is not true.
So cain got married to his sister, he knew his sister(wife) in the land of nod, in order words cain had sexuall intercourse with his wife in the land of nod, he did not just get familiar with his wife in the land of nod but copulatted with her in the land of nod.
So that's how cain got his wife, he must have married his sister(which must have been born before seth even though we have no record of it) for the scripture to make sense.
So the main point to note is that the births of daughters were not usually recorded but sons, for example adam at 130 yrs gave birth to seth and we know he gave birth to daughters too (Gen 5:4) but this daughters weren't recorded, Adam must have given birth to daughters before he bore seth, just like he might have also given birth to a daughter before cain and abel, we just might not have it recorded in the bible. Your personal interpretation.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create People Before Adam And Eve? by MostHigh: 9:19am On Sep 10, 2013 |
haibe: If inbreeding was a sin since the time man was created, i bet you we would have a stagnant population and multiplication would be impossible. Until the mosaic law, inbreeding was considered normal. ok now  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create People Before Adam And Eve? by MostHigh: 8:33am On Sep 10, 2013 |
haibe: What is true then?? Goshen supports inbreeding because he has reached his limit regarding inspiration. The book of Enoch is pre genesis. Go and read  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create People Before Adam And Eve? by MostHigh: 12:00pm On Sep 09, 2013 |
Goshen360: Cain married from one of his sisters. We have dealt with this topic before on this forum. You can do a search and edify yourself. That is not true.  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: G20 Ends Abruptly As Obama Calls Putin A Jackass by MostHigh: 11:33am On Sep 08, 2013 |
Gbawe.: Putin. He has always been deluded anyway. He needs to come and check out his money bag lot deserting Russia in droves to make the UK their home. The "tiny Island" is now the choice destination of his people. They have flooded the private schools here and have no real desire to raise their children with any Russian identity so Putin really does not appreciate the irony of his own facetious put-down. If he dont give the Uk gas they freez. Woe WOe Woe. |
Travel › Re: On Summer Holiday To Nairobi Kenya by MostHigh: 11:25am On Sep 08, 2013 |
bluerange: & if your ticket does not cover overnight accommodation in addis, u will pay $20 each for transit visa to enter town to get hotel for the night! or you stay @ the airport till your flight departs at 9a.m the next morning & that is not comfortable. bluerange does one need visa to enter kenya? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 9:48am On Sep 07, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Symbolic Significance Of Rosh Hashanah AKA Feast Of Trumpets. by MostHigh(op): 6:56am On Sep 07, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: God bless you as you keep his sacred feast days.
Shalom Amen Brother |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 7:28pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 7:23pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby: Vladimir...Vladimir...I like this guy... He's smart and stu.pid at the same damn time. But mostly smart as per, to be a part of the KGB is no joke
This is forever be my favorite picture of him, photoshop or not  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 7:09pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby: OMG SAME HERE .... MINE is different tho"
i see wastelands, desolate, dead bodies pile, dark gloimy areas
i see people running, crying....... it plays in my head over and over again....... even when im listening to good/funky mysic Its nothing dear just flashes of imminent realities  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 7:06pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 4:20pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
Mr President: Very true.
Top of the day Brother MostHigh. Yes el presidente  We are loyal To the most high God  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 3:43pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
obadiah777: oh yes we would still know ourselves and we would definitely start a new life. all those people who you think were your family members or friends ? alot of them would most likely get nuked. so you will have a new family now. the world belongs to you now to rule and own. basically you are the new government. no more payments for anything. everything will be free as ordained from the start. fame all over the world. like rock stars zephaniah 3 vs 19 and you will be unable to sin. A people whom ye never knew will serve thee.  Children of the Most High God. Eloheem. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 3:39pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
obadiah777: LOL. so do you have dreams ? any dreams lately ? Sire I dey see missles falling from the sky in my waken state now (call it day dreamin or whatever) Especially on the train into london bridge I go just dey visualize missles dey take out iconic builldings the whole sky red.  But quite franky me no feel no fear Sire. Just anxiety.  Once the first missle go off....... Na heathrow for me OOOO.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 3:35pm On Sep 06, 2013*. Modified: 4:21pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
obadiah777: cuz the first nuke signifies the seventh trumpet. meaning the kingdom of God is here. once the first nuke drops, we are in the kingdom. yeah the first few days would be bloody and messy but not for those who make it Cant wait Sire. Father let this cup pass me by NOW NOW NOW  In other word let judgement begin NOw. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 3:33pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 3:30pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 3:26pm On Sep 06, 2013 |
mcfynest: i was talking with my pastor about this imminent destruction, and he was like,"he prays america destroys all" and i was trying to tell him that america is the modern day babylon and it this way is prophesy fulfilling itself. but he was like broda mcfynest you will not understand. i just keep quiet or else na exile things.
and TPB why do you spell this word GOD as G-D My observation is by now you have more revelation than your pastor.  If you keep going to him with similar questions persistently you will quickly turn out to be an outcast. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 11:45am On Sep 06, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by MostHigh: 11:17am On Sep 06, 2013 |
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