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gregyboy:
Lol, hahahahaha


He calls omonoba a title lol lol this yorubas ehnn

It is a setence not a title or name it is omonoba nedo ukwakolopolo (the son of the oba the giant one) this sentence was made recently to sing praise to the oba it started from oba Erediawa


Oba originally remains the benin title


Instead of you commenting follow the thread while we uncover the ife benin myth


Since you feel lazy to do your research and choose to speak on myth

Oba Akenzua of Benin has the the same title as (Omo'noba) but you claimed started from Ereduwa right?

davidnazee:
The Akure ruler that was deposed and beheaded by Benin wasn’t an oba. He was a deji.. Yoruba was not using the title of oba at that time.

Benin also beheaded many Ewis and rulers in Yorubaland.

Was an Oba, his title is Deji of Akure

All the kings in all the Yoruba land are Obas their title is d difference.
Oba of Ife...(title Ooni)
Oba of Akure (Deji
Oba of Oyo (Alafin)
Oba of Benin (Omonoba)
Oba of lagos (Eleko)


Etc

gregyboy:
Guy stop quoting with this nonsense


I told you on how to defend your claims on benin ife relationship... Dont come hete to give me mytg and tell me you are defending your claims

The Portuguese had asked benin in 1500 the origin of thier dynatsy they didn't mention ife or oromiyan or if ife was a big part of benin history it would have been the first thing the Portuguese would have noticed even without the benin telkinf them


Am even beginning to believe both party are lieing fhat ekaladeran and oduduwa never existed i am currently doing my research

You should be doing yours instead of quoting erronous works feom people


Guy dont quote me with such works again it will never raise an inch from my eyebrow bring fact and not scrap

This is the problem with nigeria students they fear to do research and relearn am questioning the authenticity of this story from both angle you are loading me with more bs

Or shutup

Stop being emotional about it. Fact speak for itself. And it's an Oba rulling benin Kingdom till today..isn't that fact enough.

If you can't admit the Ogiso family history of Benin, Oba of Benin coronation speech and you ignore the Yoruba accounts on Benin then you cannot be helped

TAO11:
Hello 'hanty'!!! Lol

I think you are replying to someone else under my comment. Let's be guided oo.


Moreover, I am still waiting for you address the points I outlined fir you yesterday in my last comment yesterday.

I am also still waiting for yoir apology whjch you promised.

(4) For God sake this came-from came-from repitition is the most nauseous thing I jave ever heard in recent times.

For the umpteenth time "... All who study the history of Ife and of the Yoruba people are now generally agreed that the great political changes which began in Ife in about the tenth century were indigenous in their origin, in their unfolding and in their dramatis personae. It is on the soil of Yorubaland that Oduduwa was born and raised; it is only in that soil that his roots can be found."

Oduduwa was born and raised in Ife. How many times must I repeat this on this thread?

You all search for your Ekaladerhan in Ughoton graves. Gosh!

Godbless.

All Obas came from Ife and all ogiso came from Edo. The time when Akure ruler was disposed as king, he wasn't replaced with an Oba but Ogiso..before another Oba took his throne

gregyboy:
You dont even know ogiemen history so shut it


Ogiemen the last ogiso brother had ruled before the return of eweka, when eweka arrived he didnt give up the stool untill they fought eweka didnt win but ogiemen had to vacate the stool because edo didn't want him but eweka, it was just anoda story of uncle and his niece fighting for royal stool, today his family are twisting story to suit them so that it will look like oba came from ife
And it will be giving them upper hand in the story


Every nation had once changed the title of its ruler at one time in history ogiso title was changed but no his lineage,
Nigeria changed from prime minster to president
Did the nation that bore President around the world come to rule Nigeria before it charged
Yes or no......?


But i want to give you a doubt to prove oba originated from ife

In the meeting of all traditional rulers in nigeria
In 1939 only the benin king bore oba the yoruba kings bore thier title and no yoruba revolted to add oba to theirs


Nigga i will advice stop telling fairytale i use to tell it too but i stoped you can too

The only relationship we should be arguing on is the one with the eastee yorubas lagos, ekiti, ondo oyo and not inaginary ife the distance is too far it will take series of generational migration before ekaladeran children would have taken to migrate to ife

look at how you carefully removed the Oba Oranmiyan from you story.
Without Oranmiyan there wont be Eweka. Oba Oranmiyan is the first Oba of Benin check the list from 1 to 40.

gregyboy:
No fucking yoruba gave us benin


Benin was given the name by Portuguese who had mistaken edo people for birni kebbi in ibn bututta account

Not the imaginary ubinu

I'm 100% certain you're not a Benin person

davidnazee:
It was the same Yoruba that said Queen of Sheba was buried in Ijebu and that Ijebu is the real Jerusalem called Jebu Isalem.
I no fit laught.

Yoruba never did...where is ur source?

davidnazee:
Whose palace was at Uselu? Do u even know what you are talking about?
Why don’t u read before you come on here to argue rubbish.

Where was Oranmiyan palace in Benin? Since u know better than i

davidnazee:
Please keep quiet. Oranmiyan never set foot in Benin proper. He couldn’t defeat the people to enter Benin. He could only reach the outskirts of Benin and there he stayed till he left.

Is palace was at Uselu. Wait o!! You mean Uselu outskirts of Benin? You're funny. But his Omonoba descendants now have the full access

davidnazee:
I don’t have to start teaching you what is common knowledge.
It is well known fact that Benin Kingdom subjugated almost all of Yorubaland.

Even your Alafin have been documented as saying that his predecessors and other Yoruba Kingdoms were paying tribute to the powerful Oba of Benin.

Benin can never conquer Ife kingdom or Oyo kingdom, they only installed king in Yoruba region that doesn't have Kings.

Oba is never igodomigodo title it is a Yoruba title..Ogimien ( Ogiso family will tell u that)

Sarah20A:
it was the grandson not great grandson.

Grandson and Great grandson means the same thing in Yoruba language

But the grandson of Oduduwa was Obalufon (Past Oni of Ife)

It was Obalufon that sent his son Oranmiyan to conquered Igodomigodo to be their king.

gregyboy:
Oga shut up


This is a nice movie script

I guess you're still igodomigodo? The ogiso descendants are there in Benin alive and well, go meet with them for the real historical accounts of Benin

davidnazee:
You are still continuing with this your self deceit lol. Which historical evidence points to Oyo gaining military might over Benin? Only oral accounts said it but even the oral accounts never narrates about any confrontation between Oyo or Benin or describe any scenario where Benin paid tributes to Oyo.
On the other hand there are multiple oral accounts supported by historical evidence that Benin conquered and ruled over Yoruba for hundreds of years.
Details are given of how Benin conquered Yoruba Kingdoms and villages..

You should promote the present achievement of the Yorubas. If you keep engaging yourself in history that never favoured you, you will always be a loser.

Let us know the Yoruba kingdom and villages sir.
Likewise Yoruba conquered Benin, Ibilo amongst others.

gregyboy:
Benin don't have connections with Oduduwa but oromiyan how possible

Oga stop misleading people stop it there was never connection with you guys

It was benin and other yorubas and not fucking ife

You guys are adding benin to ife story to steal oue glory and to glorify yours it only succeeded while we were in former western region

You should get it we have left western region long time ago that myth doesnt hold sway anymore

Every yoruba is connected to Oduduwa not benin

Samuk
Davidnazee

Oba Oranmiyan(Yoruba) stole your glory from the hands of Ogiso. He's son Oba Eweka still Yoruba are the real binis.

Ogiso kings were bannished by Oba Oranmiyan in his surjorn in Benin. He replaced it with Oba a yoruba kingship title.


Oduduwa never came from Ife to be king in Igodomigodo...Oranmiyan did, and he was the first Oba.
All other Obas are Omonoba translated to son of the Obas.

Sarah20A:
I agree with that it was the Portuguese who corrupted the name to Benin due to the difficulty in pronouncing ubinu, I Also agree with that the Benin don't introduce themselves as Benin because that word Benin is used to identify them foreigners.
I don't think the Benins have relationship with the yorubas except from the story of Izoduwa who the yorubas know as oduduwa.
Please be sure of your source of information during your research and you can also go to usen in edo state for more information if I may suggest. please keep us updated.

Benin doesn't have relationship with Oduduwa, they had relationships with the great grandson of Oduduwa that's Oranmiyan that later became the first Oba of Benin..not Ogiso of igodomigodo now.

gregyboy:
Ok lets imagined ife was out of the picture assuming

Are you aware benins ondo ekiti had a strong connection than anyother yoruba in nigeria did you know that benin thought owo its artwork craft are you aware benin, ondo, ekiti share thesame traditional delicacy i. E pounded and egusi, and black soup
Now tell me were did the word oba originate from if ife was assumed to have left the picture

The truth is there was never an ife in the picture it was all made up it was just benin, ondo, ekiti eko, nupe, igala that was always in edo history

Go and read the ogiamien history in Edo.

A yoruba war lord Oranmiyan from Ife kingdom faught and won the war against the igodomigodo..he was the father of Oba Eweka. He named the town he founded Ile ibinu now known as benin. He's from Yoruba's extraction.

Have you asked why Oba of Benin's head are buried at Orun oba ado in Ife?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

gregyboy:
Are you saying there is a benin and ife connection if so prove it


Lol

There's no igodomigodo and Ife connection but we have the Ife and Benin connection..your palace cannot refute it

Why is your palace using Oba(Yoruba) as opposed to Ogiso(Igodomigodo) as monarch?

Igbo presidential candidate hasn't come 3rd in any presidential election.
They want to contest out of empathy of being tribalistic against Hausa, fulani and Yoruba.

samuk:
Most Benin known all along that the Benin/Ife connection was a fallacy let alone Orun Oba Ado.

I know it means the world to Yoruba history and without it, you guys are left with almost nothing and a watering history.

Benin history have much more to offer without the Ife lies. Some of us like to have fun on these your provocative threads when will have the time.

I already provided a link to your Yoruba brother thread here on nairaland that started these Orun Oba Ado lies in 2014, the lies started with two sites, one for Male and the other for female Obas of Benin.

It was when it was pointed out that Benin forbids female being Oba, you guys took the correction and came back with a reversed version of the lies.

Fortunately, there are other aspects of Benin history that are currently beyond you guys reach.

You know nothing about Edo history. About five years ago, your believed Oranmiyan was never a king in benin until Your Oba clears the air during his coronation

Sarah20A:
it was oranmiyan that named it ile ubinu ,oba eweka then named it after a slave boy who save his life.the agbor people call us 'idu ' so you should as well say the Benins came from them.We all have what we call other people in our different languages.you've still haven't answered my questions

Oba oranmiyan and Oba Eweka do not speak the Edo dialect. The initial palace language was Yoruba. It was the *Ogisos* native people i.e That speaks igodomigodo language.

Ado is the word, it was corrupted to Edo by the igodomigodo people

Sarah20A:
I have told you the meaning of Benin so please tell me the meaning of yoruba.you can politely ask me for the meaning of oshodi and Eko in Benin and i will be glad to be of help

What's the meaning?

Sarah20A:
the original name of the Benin people were 'igodomigodo'then followed by 'ile ubinu' which was corrupted by the Portuguese to Benin .so technically Benin mean ile ubinu and ile ubinu means land of vexation in yoruba word,then it was changed to Edo by oba eweka.

Edo still a Yoruba word from (Ado) which translates to new settlement.

Correction: Oba Eweka changed it to Ubinu not Edo

Sarah20A:
tell me the meaning of oshodi,Eko,etc.if some modern Benins don't know some of the meanings doesn't make those names to be that of yoruba

Don't know. Tell me the meaning of Benin?

kestolove95:
Dirty tribe

Kestolove,..y did u pick another person's monkey.

Na yoruba dey use kestolove moniker before

What happened to the song he recorded with Tekno?

Sarah20A:
the names you claimed as yoruba names were initially Benin words or sentences which were corrupted by you people.

That means in the past Benin were Yoruba. These modern Benin doesn't know the meaning of d names but yoruba people will tell you

Sarah20A:
you have to understand that there was nothing like yoruba and you have to go back to the grassroots to fully understand everything.

There was nothing like Yoruba but there's Oduduwa till this day, Also there wasn't the word Benin before Oronmiyan grandson of oduduwa came to Benin.