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Ghostwon651:
As I said, you have no logics.
You have provided a link to the claims of a person.
Problem is: those claims are not only unsubstantiated, but also illogical.
What you have is a known fraudster making claims without proof.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/832915-controversy-crown-prince-eheneden-erediuwa-tenant-benin-kingdom.html

Another one

Keep denying your history yearly but the truth will come out some day

Ghostwon651:
What you are saying doesn't make any sense.
If you can prove that there was ever a person titled ogiso whom was ruling Benin empire then do so.
Blindly claiming that "there are remnants of ogiso in Benin up to today" is just a sentence with no sense and it presupposes two things:

1) that you have allegedly proven that there was once a ruler of Benin empire titled ogiso (and we all know you have no such proof, because ogiso is a fairytale)

2) that there is someone claiming to be an ogiso and you have proof he is right ( well this one supposes you have proven the first one and supposes you have scientifically verified the tales of the claimant, and we both know no such thing happened)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

Have provided you a link...go and read Ogiemen history of Benin..first

Ghostwon651:
Oranmiyan, oduduwa, ogiso are all myths. They are made up stories. In Europe children above 13 are considered too old to believe these kinds of stories which are in the santa clause, Hercules, superman category.

Made up story by your Edo people right?

Ghostwon651:
Nobody knows, because nobody who could write was there to witness even the date the first Oba of Benin was crowned. That might be several thousand years ago.

How could you say nobody knows? If nobody knows that means anybody can just become a king in Benin.

Yoruba people and Oba of Benin palace knows their history.

My advice for you,


Go and read Oba Coronation speech

Go to Benin palace to be well grounded in the history of Benin.

Go to Ooni of Ife palace to learn about the history of Benin. They have kept it.

Go to Olu of warri they will tell u history

Avoid posting comment since you seems not to know anything in Benin

Ghostwon651:
The first Oba of Benin didn't come from ife.
Ask logical questions, not mischievous ones which trick the person whom is answering into accepting something you are claiming without proof.

If you were a honest person, you would have framed it this way: did the first Oba of Benin come from ife ?
And the answer is: NO !

Who was the first Oba pls?

Ghostwon651:
Ogiso is a myth, a made up story.
The title of the emperor has always been Omo n'Oba n'Edo. Oba in short.

That is where the Yoruba adopted the word "Oba" from:

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In the precolonial era, Yoruba chiefs didn't refer to themselves as "Oba". Rather they referred to themselves as ooni, alafin...
In the colonial era Yoruba chiefs started naming themselves in the following manner: "ooni of ife, sir adeyemi", "alafin of oyo, sir adetoye"...
Notice the introduction of two non Yoruba words: "of" and "sir".
The "sir" is a word from English nobility which the yorubas borrowed from the British in order to add some prestige to their titles.

However, later in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba", yet an other non Yoruba word.

The word Oba belongs to Benin empire, it is how Benin empire calls it's emperor as witnessed by European visitors in the middle ages.

Basically, Yoruba copy other tribes a lot:
2) emir from Fulani
3) "sir" from the British
1) Oba from Benin

Even some Benin traditional swords were copied by the Yoruba.


]

Ogiso means king in Benin...stop lying


Why is Oranmiyan from Ife? He was the person that founded Oba in Benin

Ghostwon651:
Ogiso is a myth, a made up story.
The title of the emperor has always been Omo n'Oba n'Edo. Oba in short.

That is where the Yoruba adopted the word "Oba" from:

[

In the precolonial era, Yoruba chiefs didn't refer to themselves as "Oba". Rather they referred to themselves as ooni, alafin...
In the colonial era Yoruba chiefs started naming themselves in the following manner: "ooni of ife, sir adeyemi", "alafin of oyo, sir adetoye"...
Notice the introduction of two non Yoruba words: "of" and "sir".
The "sir" is a word from English nobility which the yorubas borrowed from the British in order to add some prestige to their titles.

However, later in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba", yet an other non Yoruba word.

The word Oba belongs to Benin empire, it is how Benin empire calls it's emperor as witnessed by European visitors in the middle ages.

Basically, Yoruba copy other tribes a lot:
2) emir from Fulani
3) "sir" from the British
1) Oba from Benin

Even some Benin traditional swords were copied by the Yoruba.


]

Ogiso a made up story and we still have the reminants of Ogiso unto this day in Benin?

All Yoruba kings are Oba and all Oba have title of their kingdom.

Again why did the first Oba of Benin came from Ife?

Etinosa1234:
U talk like someone struggling with jamb

Why is it not Ogiso of Benin. Why Oba of Benin?
Kindly tell me

Igbosmoker:
From ondo to Lagos, then ekiti to even osun and ibadan you'll see some Benin presence.

So of your king's even have ada vbe eben a staffs meant to show allegiance to Benin kingdom.

The only thing Yoruba have is population and because Benin people were kind not to enforce their language to the territories they conquered.

Hence ondo and Lagos would have been speaking Benin

I'm Igbo to tell the truth....why did the first Oba of Benin from Ife?

osazsky:
yoruba slaves Edo is not lagos

Talking as if Edo is better than Lagos. The Origin of APC is Lagos.
Obaseki is gone already. They helped him get to power but he spits on his helper

2special:
Edo state is now Lagos

Thank God is not like south east

Yobabad:
Aisha Buhari could have just slap him to reset those urgly brown teeth

Peter obi or Orji uzor kalu's wife should do that

fr

Have never met selfish sect of people like us

We don't accommodate people but we run to other region in the name of Nigeria.

We're very selfish yet we expect Yoruba and Hausa to be kind to us

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SW governors are also reading the news and sud follow suit with their own

Jasparrow1:
They're only there to help you fools to develop that Titanic ZOO the whole of sad waste is a cesspit

Develop? Your people aren't known for development.

Go to Ghana

Kenya

Ugandan

South Africa

India

China

Indonesia

They are known for something else and the natives wants them out

Jasparrow1:
The whole of sad waste is a massive shitthol a bombastic shitthol the biggest ZOO in the world largest

See your slummish Akure. Like were they're training minners

Must you snap the worst places in Akure? I will show you the eastern region...

Jasparrow1:
Ogun is less than Nnewi in industrialization.

But the same federal government just bought 70 army cars from innoson last month. LMAO hahahahahahaha poor bet9ja it's only in Nigeria. While innoson is all over the world. Shame no dey catch you for face South east no be una mate. Una too small for us to compete. Your mates are Niger, Sudan and Somalia

You mean this brown roofs below

If your people visit Ogun and Oyo they don't wanna go back

Amarabae:
to be honest, apart from Lagos and parts of Ogun, there is nothing in south west.
I served in Ondo, ,have stayed in Ibadan,
nothing is there ,
living on propaganda do have a negative effect,
NBS head is a Yoruba, we know the propaganda game hyped by SW but it does not reflect realities on ground.
not hating, just saying the butter Truth

Nothing in Ibadan
You need to revisit Ilorin
Port novo
Lokoja
Akure

You broke up with ur gal and you're here to explain?
It's unnecessary

Lawly:
that useless one wey no fit kill rat. the only thing him sabi do na to bark for him palace like dog wey rabbis catch, and claim Islamic ancestry just to pacify his fulani slave masters. nonsense. attach by force

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Na mouth only and hands for typing Una get

AnambraIstSon:
Dem born am or any of una well? Cowards!

I don talk am say, na mouth Una just get...Nnamdi kanu your director cannot say it Lagos is no man's land.
He called it Oduduwa land

Taye4j:
That is why Babajide Sanwoolu and not Emeka nwabuogu is the governor of Lagos State.

They are not serious bro.

Na mouth only then get

DonBenny77:
Hallelujah!!!
Burna boy is more talented than Davido

You have created about 50 accounts on nairaland just to say this. Slow it down on the rizzler bro.

Okocha not the most talented in Africa. His opinion though.

40% of Okocha's attempt to dribble was unsuccessful he ended being dispossessed

He created room for counter attack with some of the unsuccessful pass

Selfish play that affected the team

But he's a good player

AnambraIstSon:
Claiming our people & when we say Lagos is no man's land you'll open teeth

Lagos is Igbo land. Are u happy now?.sebi.that was why the Oba of Lagos threatened to sink una for the lagoon

Taye4j:
Keep shifting the goal post. Initially, you claimed he's an Igbo, now you are claiming he's SS. I can see you are a confused person

Everybody knows who wants attache by force, SS people have every right to claim him as Yorubas are doing but it's the Igbos that are running around naked just to claim what is not theirs. Even calling SS as Igbo land.

Maybe that explains why Burna himself sings in Yoruba.

The day burna boy did not win the Grammy they called him Yoruba. But if he succeed they will be looking for ways to tap out of his anointing when their region didnt contribute anything meaningful to his success.

AnambraIstSon:
LOL exactly, a Yoruba that knows nothing about his own cultural peculiarities. Abeg go & gulp down ofe make I see front.

Yes burna boy is a south western artist go and deal with that.

You can try as much as possible to link him with the east but you cannot succeed

AnambraIstSon:
Smh, you get problem.
You're not Yoruba until you can point to your father's agbo ile in Yorubaland. Being Yoruba is beyond speaking Yoruba & having Yoruba names. Until you can present Burna's agbo ile in Yorubaland then he's from Rivers,

Go ask burna boy, his agbo ile is in Lagos