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FxMasterz:
The Existence of a Creator: A Challenge to Atheists
I had an argument with Jaephoenix a few days ago. He was completely floored and ran away from the discussion. I observed that unlike what used to be the norm, none of his fellow atheists came to his rescue. I have presented the argument in a more organized way and hereby table it as an open challenge to all atheists worldwide.

Now, let's begin:
Atheism posits that complex designs and functionality in the natural world can be explained without the need for a Creator. However, I argue that certain features of the natural world demonstrate intelligent design, purposefulness, and complexity, necessitating the existence of a Creator.

Key Points:
1. Intelligent Design: Complex structures like the eye exhibit intelligent design, with multiple components working together to achieve a specific purpose (sight).
2. Purposefulness: The eye's design serves a clear purpose, unlike natural processes that may create complex but purposeless structures.
3. Complexity: The eye's complexity and functionality cannot be explained by random natural processes alone.
4. Universality: The eye is a common feature across many living organisms, suggesting a deliberate design rather than a random occurrence.
5. Variety: The existence of different types of eyes (e.g., human, insect, octopus) implies a Creator who adapted designs for specific purposes.
6. Creator vs. Intelligent: The argument focuses on the existence of a Creator, not necessarily an intelligent or supernatural one.
7. Natural Processes: While natural processes can create complex structures, they lack purposefulness and intentionality, unlike the eye's design.
8. Emergence: Complex systems can exhibit emergent properties, but these do not necessarily explain the eye's purposeful design.
9. Evolutionary Explanations: Incremental adaptive changes may contribute to the eye's development, but they do not fully account for its complexity and purposefulness.
Conclusion:
The existence of complex, purposeful designs like the eye necessitates the existence of a Creator. This challenges atheistic views that rely solely on natural processes to explain the natural world. While the nature and identity of this Creator are open to discussion, the evidence from intelligent design, purposefulness, and complexity demands consideration of a Creator's role in shaping the world around us.

here is the reality of life:
if you take away science today from everybody's mind and throw away all the science books etc, then in 100years, there will be the exact same science/books back in people's life because science is eternal (you cant fake it)... but if you take away ALL religion and religious books from this world, then in 100years there will be a new bunch of holy scammers with brand new gods and strategy and brand new scam to try to enslave people. FACT!!!!

Henry2405:
You mistakenly picked the wrong luggage at the airport, you got home and found this, what is your next step?

ME:- As a good citizen and a Christian it is wrong for me to take what isn’t mine. So I will empty the money from bag in my room and return the empty bag to the airport

smart man... the criminal who lost his bag would look for you til eternity... and since your own bag will be left on the carousel, it will be very easy to know who you are (your name will be on the left bag's tag). just pray it belong to some Nigerian polithief and not some Mexican cartel or some powerful mafia gang,

cutecommend:
A man said "When the gift is open before its time, no excitement"... How many men get excited on wedding night when their wife is not a virgin?

If your husband marries you a virgin, he may likely get proud of you.

If you are not a virgin, you can still be the best wife; but ladies should stop broke-shaming men; else they should not get offended if there comes a great escalation of men needing virgins.

A) what does virginity got to do with excitement on wedding (from two people who know exactly what they are getting)?
B) what does broke-shaming got to do with virginity?! so you mean a babe who aint virgin cannot call a man broke (or vice versa)?
C) there is nothing wrong with men looking solely for virgins just like there is nothing wrong with non virgin women looking for men.

TO EACH THEIR OWN MISERY IN LIFE!

jorion:
Bro, they only do that when they don't care about or have little emotional attachment to the dude. I have been there, we know them wella.

of course she doesnt care about the dude... and this wont change whether you give her the best sex on earth (or not)

jorion:
Dey play. I promise you, woman wey no get respect no dey around the right person wey dey handle her.
Don't be surprised that this particular girl is kissing the legs of another dude somewhere else
WE KNOW THEM
I HAVE BEEN THERE, I HAVE WITNESSED COUNTLESS GUYS IN THESE RELATIONSHIPS ALSO.
THE DUDE WILL MAKE A VERY FINE HUSBAND, WALAHI.
THESE ARE THE ONES THEY EVENTUALLY WANT TO SETTLE DOWN WITH

Even girls with no sense of accountability know how to playfully and indirectly apologise.

yes bro, this woman may be worshipping another dude, but this has often nothing to do with how good you mount her... some men/women out there are NARCISSISTS and there is nothing you can do to change them. you can come with professors/diploma/FBI evidence that they are wrong, and they will still dismiss your claim and never apologize or admit that they are wrong,

jorion:
If better guy man handle this babe, especially in bed, I promise you she go mellow down.
All these behaviour is for those she doesn't take seriously.
Even ashawo for street, with all their bad behaviors dey mellow down.
The guy no just know how to handle her...

IMHO, sex is irrelevant here... a woman who has no respect for you and/or has no respect for how you feel, then you can give her the best sex in her life and she will still treat you like garbage. its her CHARACTER that is foul here, thats the type of woman that she is. a lot of yeye women are like that...aka women who think they are the center of the universe (thinking that life is only about them), believing its their way or the highway, even if/when they are wrong.

if a man tells a woman that she is wrong, and instead of using her brain to investigate the issue, she will automatically dismisses what you are telling her (and because she thinks she is so big in her head she wont even apologize), then you have a time bomb on your hand.

sadly, this woman is showing you her failed and negative character/traits/mindset, and it will only get worse as she get more comfortable in that r/ship. a person who never see her flaws and think she is always right is a narcissist. you have to value/judge a woman for EVERYTHING she is, and sadly, that side of her is a RED FLAG that will overshadow any qualities that she may possess.

sometimes, no matter how hard it is, you have to let go of people who are NOT compatible with who you are and what you desire in life.

na today? people who enslaved you decided to free you and thereafter offer to help your run your unfortunate miserable life, and you accepted the offer?!?!?

just another day in paradise...

LA click LA Bendel state.

ShinnBet:
When did I say Oando is not owned by Tinubu's relatives ?

you must be suffering from amnesia... when i stated all the 4 above points, your reply was the below:

ShinnBet:
No single shred of truth in what you wrote up there.

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ShinnBet:
So?
If Shell hedged it's bets on Tinubu wining the elections and promised to sell their oil operations to Oando on the basis that they are left to exit Nigeria in peace , how is that a bad thing ?

see yourself...
- 1st you claimed Tinubu's family doesnt own Oando plc, THE LIE DETECTOR TEST DETERMINED THAT WAS A LIE!!!
- 2nd you claimed Tinubu (as president of Nigeria) didnt settled the lawsuit against Eni, THE LIE DETECTOR TEST DETERMINED THAT WAS A LIE!!!
- 3rd you claimed Oando didnt acquire all the assets of Eni, aka the same company that Tinubu (as president of Nigeria) settled the lawsuit with. THE LIE DETECTOR TEST DETERMINED THAT WAS A LIE!!!
- 4th you claimed that Agip is not a subsidiary of that exact same company (Eni) that Oando acquired today. THE LIE DETECTOR TEST DETERMINED THAT WAS A LIE!!!


again, if Tinubu's family acquires a company that the NIgeria gov is in litigation with, to thereafter settle a BILLION DOLLAR lawsuit that this same company had with the Nigerian government, then thats wrong!!! that company should be owned by the NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT, not the damn president's family!!!! these assets belong to NIGERIA, not Tinubu and his family!! everything that Tinubu did in this issue was all geared to ENRICH HIS OWN SELF AND HIS FAMILY!!!

ShinnBet:
The whole Shell case you are mentioning was already under alternative resolution that was instigated by Malami's Ministry of Justice.
The case involved the granting of operational license of a offshore oil well by Dan Etete to Shell.
Obasanjo started the legal process to revoke the license and began the criminal prosecution of Dan Ete in far away Europe citing bribery and kickbacks.
The case saw to Shell leaving Nigeria and taking Nigeria to court of international arbitration abroad.
The case has been ongoing since Obasanjo's era and only came to a negotiated resolution under Buhari.
So I don't understand how this case had anything to do with Tinubu.

the lies you tell on NL will NEVER prosper... The Nigerian government settled the lawsuit against Shell/Eni regarding the OPL 245 oilfield deal when it withdrew its civil claim on November 16, 2023. STOP SPREADING LIES ONLINE!!!!

but here is the best part, the whole Oando plc acquisition of SHELL/ENI onshore assets started back in September 2023 even before the gov had settled the lawsuit. so Tinubu's family was signing contracts to acquire a company's assets right before the Nigerian gov was about to settle a lawsuit with that same company, ENI/AGIP assets are now owned by Tinubu and his family!

ShinnBet:
It's my thread and I reserve the right to point to your fcking hypocrisy in leaving a brazen heist by Obi and attacking a private venture acquisition.
Even if Tinubu was instrumental in seeing to AGIP sell their assets on their way out to Oando and Oando alone , how did that in anyway look like the brazen heist by Obi ?
Influence peddling is not a crime and even at that AGIP was already on their way out.
Did it cross your mind that AGIP went with Oando because they offered and paid a better deal than anybody else?
If an Ibo man had purchased AGIP you won't be here lamenting but will rather be celebrating it as a sign of your business acumen.
Tell me how this purchase by Oando comes close to obi's brazen heist?

so the Nigerian gov (aka Tinubu) settles a lawsuit against a company, then his family acquires ALL the assets of this company (ENI/AGIP etc) and thats ok with you?!

but as usual, instead of focussing on the madness thieving/looting and nepotism that is happening with Oando plc, you'd rather point fingers at what others did and say:"Obi did worse, Buhari did worse, Goodluck did worse, Babangida did worse, Shehu Shagari did worse"

i guess in your yeye world, because others are bastard thieves, then its ok for Tinubu to be one too, abi?!?!?

ShinnBet:
Until you begin to openly demand from Obi about the Anambra wealth he brazenly and openly invested in his companies and foriegn accounts, then you have no business condemning the open acquisition of a private oil company by another private entity.

i dont give a flying fukc about Obi, Atiku or any other politician... they are ALL BASTARD POLITHIEVES!!!!

this is a thread about Oando plc, a company owned by Tinubu's family... stick to the issue at hand, rather than reason like a political brainless sheep!

MrBrownJay1:
ALL POLITICIANS IN NIGERIA ARE BASTARD THIEVES ),
TINUBU IS A BASTARD POLITICIAN, OBI IS A BASTARD POLITICIAN!!!

Bizibi:
look if atiku is the president he will do the same thing even peter obi will find a way to get a piece of cake in the oil sector,no one is a saint in Nigeria even me talking here will be glad if I find myself in such position today because I have seen people from villages become overnight billionaires because of the ties to the presidency. I don't want to act as a saint but what Nigerians need is the impact on their lives nothing else.

sadly i fully disagree with that... Nigerians are greedy, Nigerians are lazy, Nigerians always want to cut corners and acquire what they dont deserve. the problem here is not Tinubu or Obi or Atiku, the problem is Nigerians themselves. thats why its the same old shiit for the past 50+ yrs and it wont change.

with all due respect, all people who reason like you do should be put in front of a firing squad and get rid of. do you know that if a give you $1Billion, and you spend $1million a month, it will take you 83 fukcing years to spend all that money?!?! now these bastard polithieves are stealing 10s of Billions of dollars for their own selfish self...IMAGINE WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THAT MONEY AND/OR HOW IT COULD HELP THE GENERAL POPULATION (WHO ARE SUFFERING DAILY BECAUSE OF THE SELFISH DECISIONS THEY TAKE)!!!!

Habbeyy:
do not overreact sir, we're saying the same thing. That's why I said we should go to Abuja for protest because I think wailing on nairaland won't help. I'll support the protest with cold eba, you should bring gas so that we can warm the eba

you just go, i will meet you there... if i dont show up and hunger don catch you, just chop the cold eba!

ShinnBet:
How about Obi diverting state funds to his personal portfolio and offshore accounts ?
That #75bn investment heist by Obi yielded jack shit for Anambra state and no attempt has been made to get Obi to account for it.
Also, we know Obi opened and operated an offshore account in Panama under his then teenage daughter's name.
For all your conjectures against Tinubu who is not a part of the running board of Oando will you leave Obi who claimed that he was not also part of his family business when he made those investments ?
This is the height of stinking IPOB hypocrisy .

instead of answering the question, you wrote the above deluded nonsense....open your yeye eyes and reread the below:

MrBrownJay1:
ALL POLITICIANS IN NIGERIA ARE BASTARD THIEVES ),
TINUBU IS A BASTARD POLITICIAN, OBI IS A BASTARD POLITICIAN!!!

mikeapollo:
Why don't you talk about the assets of Exxon Mobil that were acquired by SEPLAT owned by someone that is not from Tinubu's family?
Why don't you talk about the assets of SHELL that were acquired by Renaissance Group(ND Western, Aradel, First E&P etc.) owned by people that are not from Tinubu's family?

Hypocrites

the problem is not people buying companies left right and center, the problem is when the president puts his family in charge of a company that directly benefits from decision made by that same president. the company that was acquired by oando plc today (Agip) is a subsidiary of Eni, the same company that the Nigeria gov (aka Tinubu) settled a lawsuit against.... so technically, what they are doing is acquiring ALL THE ASSETS of the company that owe Nigeria.... only a blind fool wouldnt see that they simply gave the whole company/asset to Tinubu's family for payment of that lawsuit!

Habbeyy:
it is not easy to hate, one would just be contradicting himself. I think we should take a protest to aso villa to warn Tinubu

dont confuse hate with COMMON SENSE! its obvious you people will see nothing wrong in what the political party (you follow) does....while a sane person with a functioning brain, will judge all these yeye bastard politicians for what they are.... TINUBU/OBI etc are all bastard politicians using Nigeria to enrich themselves!

ShinnBet:
All IPOB beer parlour conjecture .
No single shred of truth in what you wrote up there.
This deal has been under negotiation since 2020.
Was Tinubu the President then ?

- so you mean the Nigerian government didnt have a lawsuit against Shell/Eni for decades?
- so you mean Tinubu didnt settle that lawsuit as soon as he got into power?
- so you mean oando plc is not owned by his family?
- so you mean oando plc didnt acquire all the onshore assets of Eni, right after the lawsuit was settled by Tinubu?!?!
- so you mean Agip that Oando acquired today is NOT Eni's subisdiary?!

Nigeria deserves the hell it gets because of people like you....

***spit on floor***

Habbeyy:
so that means that Tinubu has family? I'm confused

no he is an orphan.... lol

ShinnBet:
Lolz.
At no time will you ever ask that thief and fraud Obi to account for the money he diverted to his personal business and offshore accounts.
Tell me the crime Oando broke by acquiring AGIP?

Oando's crime started the day it was acquired by the presido's family duh!!! President Tinubu settled a decade long lawsuit that the Nigerian gov had against SHELL/ENI (about oil prospecting licenses)... and mysteriously, after Tinubu put his children/family in charge of Oando Plc, that same Oando company now acquired all the onshore assets of Eni (Eni, the exact same company and assets that the Nigerian gov had a lawsuit against). so Tinubu becomes president, settles a lawsuit against a company and the next day acquires all the assets of that company in Nigeria?!!?!?!?! and now that same Oando company (covered by the presido's blessing) is making moves in Nigeria to set themselves up for the next century!

bro, if you dont see whats wrong in this picture, and rather focus on some other bastard politician named Obi, then no wonder Nigeria as a country will NEVER EVER propsper. the problem is not Tinubu, the problem is all you people who see nothing wrong with the above.

have a fantastic day!

ShinnBet:
Obi that sat on Anambra wealth like his personal fund and diverted to his private business and is yet to account for a single penny is far worse.

bro instead of confirming what i have already stated (aka ALL POLITICIANS IN NIGERIA ARE BASTARD THIEVES ), use your brain;
-Tinubu is running the country to the ground for his own financial gain
- if Obi (or any other politician out there) become president, they will do even worse

TINUBU IS A BASTARD POLITICIAN, OBI IS A BASTARD POLITICIAN!!!

ShinnBet:
What of Obi opening offshore accounts in Panama under his teenage daughter's name ?

bro, Obi, Tinubu or any other politician in Nigeria are the same yeye bastards working for these same yeye political mafias (hellbent on enriching their own personal self). the fact that you dont use your brain to view this issue and make it a tinubu vs obi case, is whats a pity here.

***spit on floor***

ShinnBet:
Did Tinubu also armstring AGIP to sell their stake in Nigeria's upstream sector?
Funding for this acquisition also came from a foriegn bank. Did Tinubu also force those ones to loan Oando money to acquire AGIP?
You people should learn to use your brains .

again, you dont know what the gov of Nigeria has offered under the table, in order to acquire such asset. only a blinded fool wouldnt see that Oando plc is using its connection with the president for favorable deals. in a sane world, such company shouldnt/wouldnt be allowed to be run by families of the damn presido! its obvious they are working with the gov, thus any bank will be glad to give funding as its backed by the Nigerian gov, duh!

Oando plc the very same company that was acquired by the children/Family of the president, right after the Nigerian gov decided to settle a decade long court case with that Oando PLc themselves....and now the above?!?!? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

Habbeyy:
Tinubu's children? Not Tinubu's cousin again? wow it seems like you are an investigative journalist, tell us more.

children, nephew, uncle or grandmother.... same shiit , different day!

oando PLC is owned by Tinubu's children/family (edit)... therefore they are now making moves (thanks to their father&uncle) to get personal deals that would set them up financially for the next 100years... the most dangerous part here is the agreements they make under the table to get those deals!

Australia i can understand but as much as Copenhagen has some great points, the minute you live there, you will realize that life there aint that great at all. especially as it get closer to the colder months... you leave for work in the morning and its dark outside, you finish work and go out and its already dark outside. the stress/depression level is immense and the majority of Danish people only cope through it by getting drunk.

Scandinavia is one of the only place on earth where i have seen so many people in the street DEAD DRUNK (especially women).

flying for "honeymoon" or flying to give birth abroad, in a country that gives citizenship to children born on their soil AND resident status to foreign parents of children born on their soil...?

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ELKHALIFAISIS:
with the same survival job .. i was able to buy plot of land worth 20m today... Able to marry, able to buy car of my dream and able to build my village mansion and at the verge of finishing my city mansion now tell me why I should leave this survivor job.... U no say even if u dey make 100 dollars in a day, after expenses month u wil have nothing less than 3.2m Minus other side hustling... Dey there dey wait for free billions in Ur head

i am happy for you brotha... but sadly, nobody in the world is gonna make $100 usd a day pushing a Wheel barrow helping people carry their loads. the most that person will make is 100Reais a day, and thats roughly 20usd per day. now a lot of people out there can do any low paying menial job abroad and make "close to" 100usd a day, but after taxes, rent, bills, transport etc you are NOWEHER NEAR left with 100usd. you are even lucky if you have 200usd left at the end of the month. now i dont know about any of your side hustles, but we have to be honest to our brothas out there, because the reality is that MAJORITY OF NIGERIANS DOING THESE MINIMUM WAGE MENIAL JOBS ABROAD LIVE FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK

the difference is, in the west, if you do these yeye jobs long enough, then any bank will offer you a mortgage and car loan... but most, importantly a small loan that can be used to go back to Africa with that money to built yourself a mansion in the village, so that you can pretend to all the people in the village that you are the next Donald Trump and making it in the west.

now pls, dont get me wrong, many Nigerians and Africans with decent paying jobs abroad can easily afford the above you mentioned, but claiming that every Nigeria earning minimum wage (doing these menial jobs) can do the same, is today's JOKE OF THE DAY.

LET ME EDUCATE YOU EVEN FURTHER... IF YOU EARN 3500€ IN FRANCE, YOU ARE PART OF THE TOP 94% RICHEST EARNER IN THE COUNTRY. FACT!!!!

femi4:
Why can't such happen here. It will reduce the number of beggerz on the streets

sadly, many are very quick to do jobs abroad that they wouldnt back home, because the money a cleaner makes abroad is no where near what a cleaner makes in Nigeria.