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4everGod:
I know what Atavism is and its branches so spare me the link.

Read the OP and stop embarrassing yourself here.

4everGod:
I am not your errand boy. If you cannot take your time to read the entire OP so you would get the full import rather than cherry picking points then it shows just how much of a self acclaimed intellectual you are.

4everGod:
Can you show us proof of this? If you re going to start telling us about Vestigial organs then forget it because those are DOA.

4everGod:
Are you ready to read the OP now and refute it instead of jumping on comments outside the OP

KingEbukasBlog:
God did not create pathogens directly - they are the products of random mutation and are also indispensable to life. Like the virus are part of the ocean's nutrient cycle and the bacteria live in our intestines and perform certain duties like metabolizing unused energy substrates and preventing the growth of harmful species . They also help in the production of vitamins like vitamin k and biotin .

The bacteria are living organisms that depend on the host like you to survive while you eat other animals for your survival - your turkey , goat ,cows you'd enjoy during this season , they serve as food to give you the energy which would be used to add your quota to the cycle of life and you check their population .

The existence of these pathogens have helped immensely in the study of nature , especially in genetics .

And for limiting child birth , humans are intelligent enough to reduce the number of births that they have willingly. Women also experience menopause as early of 40 years . Some men and women have the propensity to have fewer children .

Life is inconceivably complex .

KingEbukasBlog:
Page 20 and not even a single worthy rebuttal against the OP . All these evolutionists especially the atheists should start saying something reasonable ooo

Seun:
Are you kidding me? You believe that man is made of soil? Women are made of rib bone? That light was created before the sun? Why do we look like shaved chimpanzees if we were created in the image of God? Was the chimpanzee also created in the image of God? Oh my goodness!

4kings:
Really!!
is a square circle or imaginary complex numbers "nothing" ??

How can there be no TIME before creating "Something with Time"?
Let me illustrate; 3 2 1 " Big bang". Is "prior time" being eliminated here?

@bolded, please explain

4kings:
Abi ooo
But what do you think of radioactive dating methods, are they accurate?

Seun:
The scientific community is the most skeptical group of people in the world. What is the probability that a bunch of religious apologists on Nairaland have noticed game-changing flaws in the theory of evolution that the scientific community didn't notice during 157 years of intense study? I welcome any honest scrutiny of the theory of evolution, but it is absolutely bonkers to claim that you have "exposed it as a fraud".

4everGod:
Do you even know how stupid you sound right now? if you read the OP you would see where even geneticists denied evolution. Abi you no see am?

Do you know anything about DNA at all? Again you are making hasty generalisations.

Do you know what a slight DNA variation would do to you as a person?

DoctorAlien:
Lennycool, I know you don't know, but there are laws of embryology that directly contradict "ape to human evolution." One reason is that genes work together in teams to form body parts during embryonic development. This makes it impossible to add genes to any genome because there is no way to coordinate any new gene with existing genes. Yet "ape to human evolution" requires apes and humans to be able to add genes - for example, the chimpanzee Y chromosome has 37 genes and the human Y chromosome has at least 78 genes.

Stop embarrassing yourself defending evolution.

4everGod:
Your atheist scientist quoted against evolution man. Prove him wrong.

DoctorAlien:
Then go and sit down. Most of you when exposed begin to appeal to ignorance. That was how the other was stating emphatically that every human is as a result of reproduction. When asked about the first human, he began to appeal to ignorance.

Prove that man was not created by GOD as the Bible says or you hold your peace

KingEbukasBlog:
Read herring

4kings:
First of all what happened to RaphieMontella, is he also a polydeist.

Click this: https://www.nairaland.com/3511938/demystifying-evolution-exposing-it-fraud/7#51868084

4everGod:
My stand on Uranium Lead Dating is thus;

A swimming race illustrates the simple principles involved in quantifying time. This swimmer is competing in a 1,500 metre race and we have a precise, calibrated wristwatch. We note that at the instant the swimmer physically contacts the edge of the pool our wristwatch reads 7:41 and 53 seconds. How long has the competitor taken to swim the 1,500 metre race?

You cannot ken how long the swimmer took unless you kenned the time on the wristwatch when the race commenced. Without the commencement time it is impossible to establish the time for the race. Again i reiterate IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!

Authentically, kenning the commencement time is still not enough. During the race you have to optically canvass the swimmer and count how many laps he has swum so you ken that he has done 1,500 metres. And you have to check to ascertain he physically contacts the edge at the terminus of each lap. Without these observations you cannot be sure that the time is valid. That is why you require at least two, sometimes three judges to quantify the time of the race to the standard needed to enter the record books

This illustrates the whole quandary with the radioactive dating of geological events. Those who promote the reliability of the method spend an abundance of time impressing you with the details of radioactive decay, half-lives, mass-spectroscopes, etc. But they omit discussion of the rudimental imperfection in the method: you cannot measure the age of a rock utilizing radioactive dating because you were not present to quantify the radioactive elements when the rock composed

and you did not monitor the way those elements transmuted over its entire geological history.

In other words, the fatal quandary with all radioactive dates is that they are all predicated on posits about the past. You can get any date you like depending on the postulations you make. And that is what geologist do, they make up a postulated geological history for rock depending on the numbers that emanate from the geochronology lab

ZoneBslayer:
the USA flag was flapping in the air..it shouldn't be so considering the belief that there is no oxygen on the moon..just saying.

oglalasioux:
Until China, Russia and North Korea provide evidence that the moon landings is a hoax I'll continue to believe it. These three countries hate the US and if the moon landings didn't happen they would have let us know.

Anas09:
Then go back and read the Op and come back and straighten us.

It was here on this platform we were told that atheism spontaneously imputs Higher IQ to atheists the moment they revert.

4kings:
OK.
cc Cloudgoddess ValentineMary RaphieMontella Anonynymous johnnydonn22 teempakguy seun DeepSight AccidentalGenius KingEbukasBlog
What's your opinion on radioactive dating, considering huge possibility of wrong parameters

4everGod:
If you cannot read the entire piece then sorry i cannot help you.

4everGod:
Cop out.

Prove its not SOMETHING!

Anas09:
Raphaelmontella, you claim you are smart by virtue of you being an atheist, now i wonder how a smart person will be lazy at reading. Smh@u

KingEbukasBlog:
Shut up .

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm not sure what they teach in other churches but in my church we are taught we should be prepared at all times because death could come to anyone when his time comes.

You continue experiencing God's divine protection till your time comes . Trust me , some of those people may have been in life threatening situations in the past but came out unscathed .

Take a look at Paul the Apostle sir. He was bitten by a viper but God rescued him

Acts 28:3-6
3 When Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks and put them on the fire, a viper came out because of the heat and fastened on his hand. 4 When the native people saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, “No doubt this man is a murderer. Though he has escaped from the sea, Justice[a] has not allowed him to live.” 5 He, however, shook off the creature into the fire and suffered no harm. 6 They were waiting for him to swell up or suddenly fall down dead. But when they had waited a long time and saw no misfortune come to him, they changed their minds and said that he was a god.

The same Apostle Paul faced other life threatening situations but came out unscathed

2 Corinthians 11:25-27
25 Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I was adrift at sea; 26 on frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my own people, danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brothers; 27 in toil and hardship, through many a sleepless night, in hunger and thirst, often without food,[a] in cold and exposure.

But when his time was up , what happened ? He was possibly beheaded though the bible was silent on how Paul died . But decapitation was the common punishment at that time in Roman to people who opposed their gods , the Roman gods .

The same terrible deaths happened to Stephen , to Peter , to Bartholomew , to James , to Matthew but that's not important . What's important is the salvation of the believer . Not spending 100 years on earth and then suffering for eternity in hell . Where they born again ? Where they saved ? What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and lose his own soul ? Answer me ? A word to the wise is enough .

May the souls of the dead rest in perfect peace and may God give their families the fortitude to bear the loss .

Amen .

Ranchhoddas:
Na wa o. You go copy wikipedia come. Please tell me the last time an 'accident' of this nature occurred in the United States. Or are these kinds of accidents restricted to third world countries?

hopefulLandlord:
Research has shown that prayer has ADVERSE effects in a patient's ability to recover well from surgery

The study also found that more patients that are aware of being prayed for suffered 28% more from major surgery complications, like heart attack or stroke, compared with those that aren't aware of being prayed for

studies and researches like these is probably the reason for banning useless praying and preaching since it leads to more unnecessary complications and deaths of patients

this nurse was fully aware of the rule but flouted it anyhow

shadeyinka:

2Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Galatians 1:8-9
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The two scriptures above warn us of where to take out standards from. It assumes a standard: "that which The apostles had taught". This we find in the scriptures.

Now, if there are traditions, those traditions can only have weight if and only if they can be traced to people who lived with Jesus who heard His messages and who are witnesses to the events of the life of Jesus.[quote]pls..explain ''heard his messages''..
@the underlined...paul didnt witness any of the underlined...did he?

[quote]If they were Born after the death of Christ, their testimonies could have been embellished and thus not trustworthy irrespective of who they are.

[b]Matthew 1:23
23 “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).
24When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, 25but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.”

2 Samuel 6:23: And Michal the daughter of
Saul had no child to (until) the day of her
death. (Does this mean she had children after
she died?)
1 Timothy 4:13: Until I come, attend to the
public reading of scripture, to preaching, to
teaching. (Does this mean Timothy should
stop teaching after Paul comes?)
1 Corinthians 15:25: For he (Christ) must reign
until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
(Does this mean Christ’s reign will end?)

Another scripture is
Galatians 1:19
But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

This same James was mentioned in Mk6:3 and Mat 13:55-56

The Scripture is plain on this. The earliest doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary occurred around 150 AD. That is a long time for distortions to come in. But, we have the scriptures: at least I have given you three.

Now, are traditions bad?
No!
Except the traditions go in contradiction of what had been revealed through the apostles in the scriptures. Part of the traditions we have inherited fro the church fathers include wedding couples in the church, the institution of the clergy etc.

If we are not careful, we will rate traditions above the scriptures and thus be guilty

Mark 7:13
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.



Shalom