I think NOT. Messi was outplayed by Robben. This is broad daylight robbery. I've learnt that FIFA is the worst Hypocrites and Rascist ever. I don't even need to mention names, the case of Onazi vs Matuidi and Neymar Vs Zuniga, readily comes to mind.

And the most important, FIFA is the most Corrupt Organization in the world.

How the fùck did Messi merit the Golden Ball ahead of Robben? No wonder Maradona and any sane individual hates FIFA. Bunch of biased fucktards.

Watch them crown Messi world best like they did in 2010 even when Millito, Sneijder and Iniesta were better choices. FIFA is a fraud!!

I learnt that FIFA is the worst Hypocrites and Rascist ever. I don't even need to mention names, the case of Onazi vs Matuidi and Neymar Vs Zuniga, readily comes to mind.

And the most important, FIFA is the most Corrupt Organization in the world.

How the fùck did Messi merit the Golden Ball ahead of Robben? No wonder Maradona and any sane individual hates FIFA. Bunch of biased fucktards.

Watch them crown Messi world best like they did in 2010 even when Millito, Sneijder and Iniesta were better choices. FIFA is a fraud!!

Cortana wins.

ggrin:

The commentator must've been a Netherland fan.

It's the battle of the Giants vs the Midgets - commentator

Don't cry for me Argentina - commentator (culled from Madonna's famous song of the same title)

Germany chapter 12 vs 35 - Messi Wept!

I'm sorry Messi and Co, I didn't mean to call y'all midgets, but y'all pissed me off with Holland win.

Awww.. I'm pitying Messi right now. Sorry midget.

Padipadi:
Yes o!

Last Bullet: Messi looses.

Messi thinks he's facing Enyeama. See poorly taken Freekick.

What did Bastian did to Messi? Chai.. Chai.. This freekick you are sharing, ref, darris Goduoo

There is Joy in the house of NL when they say let's go and watch Messi Lose.

The book of Germany chapter 12 vs 35 - Messi Wept!! . Wowzer!!

Operation BringBackOurDwarfs.

Yeeeeeeeessss!!! The dwarfs are going!! Best game of my life!!

Mogidi:

His mates were very dull then, imagine hovering round a crook.

Was this the school of crooks with Tinubu as Principal crook?

This post brought tears to my eyes.

watchthisposter: 7 steps?

1 easy step to get out of the friendzone.

Stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the eye and say "she's not into me" 77 times. At the end dress up, go out and meet other people/get a life and stop obsessing. Works every time.

Full final stop!! These kids are disgracing me with all these friend-zoning stuffs. Too many kids on NL. Every girl can't agree for us, we win some, we loose some. If a girl tells you NO, suck it up and move the fúck on. Life's too short to start practising some useless steps over a girl that has no feelings for me. Another girl out there will have feelings for me, I'll get her and enjoy my life. Practice these lame steps because I was friend-zoned? When ladies are wasting around? God forbid!!

rozayx5:

thats their job once they hit the US they think no one else has been there and they have already started caling other people bush men
even my senior Sis who studied in Richmond and lived in the Uk for more than a decade interacts freely with villagers when she visits the village, and here is someone feeling like Michelle

Exactly!! The way that low self-esteem riddled Shediot looks down on her countrymen, you'd think she grew up in US, that she's even an American by birth. Just because she now lives in US, she calls a whole family "things", and her assslickers are cheering her up. Because of America, the shediot called her father and mother "useless people" by virtue of them being in Nigeria (in her other thread), and the asslickers in Nigeria are clapping for her. I can't wait to see any of them defend their tribe/villas/Nigeria against other tribes or countries (Ghanaians especially), I'd personally remind them that they concurred to being useless on the shediot's thread.

What will it take the annoying ill-bred thing to walk over and speak some senses into this innocent old woman that doesn't know how things work in modernised world? I guess she wouldn't do that so that she wouldn't be seen talking with these "bush things". That's how low her self-esteem has gone down. She doesn't even want to help out a clueless innocent woman.

This is an old woman, not a young university graduate, who doesn't know how things work in the modernised world. This is a woman who's is probably excited on her first visit to the States, and doesn't know how to behave. I bet you, an enlightened learned Nigerian wouldn't do what the woman. I don't live in nor ever visited USA, but if I go there, I'm too learned to scream up and down like the woman's kids or act the way the old woman did. And she's even talking down on these innocent kids that are used to the disorderliness in Nigeria. If this same woman that this hater is calling a bush thing stays two more months in America, she will get the hang of things and will never act "bush-like". Babymorón have made her own mistakes when she came to US, but she will never call herself a thing, rather she will act like she knew everything and is an infallible American by birth.

Even the shop owner/Whites didn't laugh at that woman or uploaded her pic on Instagram, because they have conscience and knows these things happen when new immigrants from less developed countries come visiting. But no, BabayShediot will use the opportunity to rub it in our faces and insult Nigerians as a whole. What a despicable swine!!

Acidosis: Loll


We forget one fact here; this is AFRICA Africa is cursed. Never expect a positive change till the 2nd coming of Christ.

Did I hear Ghana, S.A? Lol. Eliminate the whites from S.A, and you will see another glorified Kano state. Complaints, Rants, Arguments, Curses, Prayers, Lectures, ; Sermons won't solve our problems; we just have to accept FATE.

HE WHO NEEDS UNDERSTANDING, LET HIM SEEK UNDERSTANDING: Our Historic disconnection from progressive development started in days of ABRAHAM, CAIN AND ABEL. This isn't the right place to pinpoint these facts as many won't listen, let alone believe.

It takes 1 man to build a continent; ever wondered who migrated to Africa?
LOL!
There is absolutely nothing we can do!

The dumbest post I've ever read since the history of NL. Religion/Tribalism is the bane of our existence in Nigerian. Such a pity.

pickabeau1:

ok.. some here believe that way
If u can speak for naija,,,, then u know it is an issue and the issue exists... women outearning their partners
I brought up the western information to show it also exists elsewhere
With time it will fade below the radar


GBAM!.. i will bold these words



Now this bolded is what i dont get with your posts

You admit the issue exists and should be extinguished

I dont think it can be extinguished as it is tied to gender identity

I believe with greater understanding, the dynamics can be managed better below the radar for the betterment of the family

Refer to the article on issues in the US....

Yeah, I admit it should be extinguished, "ideally"; but realistically, it can't, it can only be reduced/managed with better understanding and tolerance. So you are right.

pickabeau1:
You missed my point in bringing up an article from the West
Its to bring to the fore a misguided notion common in some commenters than white men are ok with their women earning more than men and nigerians are not exposed for bringing forward mundane issues

The issues are not mundane and are real

Now to your own points

You wouldn't blame me for not knowing the issues in the West as I'm not living there. I can speak only for Nigerian scenery.

I will not justify infidelity using the reasons stated above. But note it is an issue which bedevils even western males
Funny when some posters come here saying white men dont cheat

I didn't justify it either, as a matter of fact, I don't justify cheating at all. Cheating is cheating, and it's wrong. All I'm saying is that some people can use such an excuse to do bad things like cheating or getting drunk daily. It's dumb but it happens. Anyone that says White men don't cheat, is an ídiot, or doesn't have a functioning brain.

If you now agree there is something called the male ego.. why did u write earlier as if it did not exist?
That was the point ihedinobi2 was trying to make
Gender identities revolve around this provider - nurturer roles... though the degrees vary

I didn't write it like it doesn't exist (unless you saw it that way), I wrote such way because the mentality (of thinking a woman earning more than men is belittling) is retrogressive and should be extinguished. Such mentality is why problems are created in such marriages at the first place. A mentality that a woman should never earn more than her husband is a rétarded mentality in this age. C'mon, some countries are ruled by women, does it make the male citizens less are inferior to the females? Have you occurred to you that women have their own egos too? We all have egos, but we should be rational in our dealings, that's why we're learned/higher primates

Yes all women are not the same and I agree with your scenarios. However men comprise greatly of more than you and I. Others will react in different ways

Nice POVs

Yeah, different strokes, for different people. Diffrent men and women,will react in different ways.

bukatyne:

And you will not teach this values to your niece?

My respect for you just shot up right now. This is what I'm talking about. He's teaching only the male and leaving the female, invariably making the niece to be dependent on men in future and never believing she can work for herself and provide for herself. I weep for the mentality of my country. it's so sad.

ihedinobi2:
By all means, do as you please. My part always is to share what I learn in life never to take people's decisions for them.

So I'll share some wisdom that you will be silent long enough to listen to, I hope: quit making assumptions unless you can justify them. You have made so many that that is the best response that I can give to you.

I'm not certain whose question it is that I dodged, for instance or what threads you refer to, but that I would never "agree to my woman earning more than me" is one very large assumption to make. I won't bother to tell you how wrong or right you are. I will only tell you that it is a very dangerous habit to have. You would do well to lose it.

OK.

bukatyne:

The problem is why tie respect to finance?

Anyways, it is how our parents raised us

That's what people don't get. If anybody respect you because of fear or finance, not because of deep emotions of love he or she has for you, that respect is fake. Respect is reciprocal, it'd be borne out of love/nice qualities that one potrays not out of fear or finance, in this situation.

pickabeau1: Good.. I agree with all you stated below


I dont think both of you were saying vastly different things..


Its a tough sell even in developed economies not to talk of our context which is a traditional one transiting to a more modern setting

What you have stated is the ideal

What some fail to misundertand is that this issue is also a big deal in the Developed world because it is at the core of gender identity

We will get there.......


I will post the TIME article and would like you to give a seasoned feedback.



http://time.com/#87890/fox-news-female-breadwinner/

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LOL. This is another kettle of fish entirely for me, because I don't reside in Yanks, and so don't know how marriage issues unfolds over there. But nevertheless, I'll input some ideas and hopefully it'll be worth your time. I'm more interested in the words you emboldened.

@second embolden, Naturally, whether anyone likes it or not, men are 'providers', religiously, culturally and otherwise. Men have egos/prides, and I admit, marriages where women are the bread winners is likely to cause rift between the couples if not well-managed because:

1. the man's ego will shattered. He's likely to feel less of himself if especially he can't cater for his family's need like the wife does

2. The man might be scorned at by his fellow men and the society at large. He'll be a laughing stock.

3. Such better-paid wives are likely to rub it in the husband's face that she provides more than him, because naturally he ought to be the chief provider. And when she does, it'll negatively affect the husband's psyche, etc.

Now in the part you embolden where studies showed that such men will likely cheat if they earn less than their wife, is true, but the harsher reality is that such men will do worst things. Some will end drowning their sorrows in alcohols, some will start keeping late nights while hanging out with friends; because their psyche are affected, it'll lead to a poor séx life etc. But what you should know is that "amount of disparity in amount of salary earned" determines such changes in the life of the man (I'll explain this point later on in this rejoinder).

Also, while 'Pew research" stated that wife-at-home-dad-at-work style of marriage was prefered by most Americans (which I prefer it too on the condition I'm making enough cheddah to cater for our needs and she doesn't mind), this I would say "to each, his/her own." Such style works but not in all time. Let me elaborate.

Back in the time of our forefathers, women had no degrees, their primarily job was all about catering/cooking for the family amidst helping out in the farm works. But times have changed. You can't expect any woman with a degree and working while you met her, to dump all her degrees and be a permanent housewife while you make the papers. Some women will agree, some will not and find it boring/waste of knowledge. That's why coys and organizations give 'maternity leaves' etc., for pregnant women to tend to their children/newly born babies. I believe a working class mum can still be working, and don't forget her wifely duties at home, though it'll be hard for her to achieve such compared to a full-time housewife. Now that's where the husband comes in. A understanding husband can help her out sometimes at home when the work is too much for her or they can hire a good nanny/maid/househelp to help out. But the truth(to me personally) remains that, a wife at home while the husband makes the millions is more preferable, or at least till her children are all grown up, then she can start work(that's how I was raised).

@3rd embolden, I beg to differ. Bread winner problems are as much as how much money the female (the bone of contention) earns, as to what they do with the resources.

A man's ego (egocentric/proud type) will naturally make him get angry or feel belittled that his wife is earning more than him, even if the wife is using the money to benefit the family, Even though the man has access to the money. Some men can't just stomach the fact that their wives earns more than them.


@fourth embolden, I agree with all the embolden. The use of "many" and not "all" means it's not generalising, so there are many ex-wives/ex-husbands that feel such way.

But what you should know is that "amount of disparity in amount of salary earned" determines such changes in the life of the man (I'll explain this point later on in this rejoinder).

Now about this ^^^ that I said I'll explain, let me give you an example of what I mean.

If man is earning, let's say N150K monthly, and his wife is earning N200K monthly. I make bold to say many men in such category won't feel ashamed, less of themselves, not manly enough or make fuss about it. They won't feel belittled or that the wife is providing more than them. Heck, the wife can't provide more than them. So the probability of chaos emanating from such situations are rare.

Now on the other hand, if the man is earning N50K and the woman, N150K. It's very obvious that the woman is the top dog financially and brings more to the table financially, than the man. Many chaos is bound to result if the two couples didn't handle such situation maturedly. This is where the marriage will be tested the more. So disparity is money earned can't be over emphasised.

So what I'll do in case my wife earns more than me, is during dating, if I perceive any stench of arrogancy/proudness steming from the fact she earns more me, I'll quit if I know I can't tolerate her. But I believe they're many rich women earning more than their husbands, but don't disrespect them or their position in the marriage. All women ain't the same.

delishpot:

I wont, I will only cry if my daughter marries a man like you who doesnt care how his family feeds. I will train my sons to know they are the bread winners, the support the anchor the chief captain of their ships, I will train them not to depend on their wives I will train them that a man that parks blokos whole his woman takes care of all the home needs does not get respect from his family even his kids. I will train him to marry a woman who stands by her man, who supplements his income when need be but he shouldnt wait for her to do all that is needed and he shouldnt unless he absolutely has to count on her for his daily bread. Unless he is sick or just falls into hard times. I will train him not to enjoy laziness.

what kind of tripe is this? How does a wife earning her salary makes the man uncaring about the family's needs? How does a wife being independent makes the husbands not to be the bread winner of the family? How does a wife working and earning money means she takes care of all the needs and the man is packing his blokos? Did I tell you the man will be jobless? How does a gainfully employed man who earns his money and his wife earns her's, make the man a husband that doesn't stand by his wife? WTF are you spewing? Jeez!! Which kind of sordid mentality is this? I'm done on your case. *sighs*

ihedinobi2:
In other words, you're full of assumptions, suppositions and fantasies not facts and figures. You need the latter to be convincing not the former.

It's obvious our paths are opposites. From the way you dodged her question, and from your stances on the threads, you will never to agree to your woman earning more than you. Well, for me, I don't see any biggie in it, my wife earning more than me, doesn't make her a bad wife, nor me a less human than her. What matters is that I'm working and earning my dough too. To each his own. I'll raise my daughters to be independent and go for their own money, if a man can't marry them because they earn higher, it's his loss, not my daughter's.

delishpot:

Keep weeping. You have more growing up to do while you weep. When you mature enough we talk.

Well, your mentality is low so I wouldn't expect you to understand. Train your future kids to depend on men for their upkeeps, when their husbands or BFs treat them like 'properties', I hope you won't cry blue murder.

pickabeau1:


Expectation and reality tend to be different things.. I noticed you used the word intact... being whole is not the same as wholeness

In your opinion, what is the reality of the marriage dynamic where women earned more than the husband

Let's put aside sentiments, no marriage is perfect; whether the ones where the man earns more than the woman, or the woman earns more than the man. I used "intact" because I recognised that no marriage is filled with roses and no thorns, what matters is that both couples finds a way to settle the differences whenever it comes up. So by "intact" I meant an non-perfect marriage but one that still stands at the end of the trials.

Now, to be honest with you about your question, I think a marriage dynamic where a woman earns more than the man is bound to hit the rocks in an African setting, where men have been taught that woman should never earn more them; or that women earning more than them or holding a position above them means disrespect. Such marriage is bound to crash if the husband is egocentric or an illiterate who doesn't recognise that his wife earning more than him doesn't belittle him as long as he's gainfully employed and earning his bucks too.

Last week, I went to a meeting and in that meeting, elections were being discussed with the electoral chairman of the group, urging its member to come out and contest for the positions they like, a woman came out and said she'll contest against another man for the president's slot. 99% of the men in that meeting refused. I asked one man, "why?". Do you know his reply? He said:

"It's an insult for a woman to be president of any group that men belong to. This is nature"

I asked "even if the woman will be a better incorrigible president than her male contestant?"

And he said "yes, a woman should never rule over a man."

Now this archaic mentality is the type of an average Nigerian man. Who feels his wife earning more than him is an insult. I don't buy into that school of thought.

Personally for me, the dynamic will work well with me because I want a working class lady, earning millions if possible, for a wife. With that the financial burden is reduced. With that, she won't have to depend on me for even make-up money. If I earn more than her, fine. If she earns more than me, fine. But she should be dependent and can cater for her needs.

It's true that many women will let the idea of them earning more than the man get into their heads, but that's what we've courtship for. During dating, if I feel she's the disrespectful type, I'll dump her asss. But if she gives me my respect and still acknowledges my position as the boss of the relationship, then imma wife her. Her earning more than me doesn't negate her good qualities, a good wife, is a good wife, earning more or not.