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XxSabrinaxX:
It is obvious that I'm already giving you headaches and nightmares . I can feel your pain all the way from here. Go look up on the history of XxSabrinaxX. You're not the first raving dog I've had to put down on this forum . You bring nothing new to the table. Your playground insults merit nothing from me but pity for clear lack of social skills. You wished I would upload my REAL pictures on a public forum so you can retire to your dustbin of a room and jack your ugly, tired, starving mini-dick thinking of me. It will interest you to know that I'm 100 times hotter than all the females in your life. You need help. And you need to get laid, homeboy

XxSabrinaxX:
Damn, boy! Who did this to you?

How are you going to hold up a victim card, but you've got a buyer's remorse card in your back pocket? . You get what you give, honey. You started the insults. Don't try to act all innocent now because you've seen the catastrophe that waits ahead. You flopped your arguments, got salty and now you're just frustrated that you pissed yourself and got embarrassed . You're easily the most mentally deficient superhero fan I've ever seen. Quit the faux pretence and man up. You wanted a verbal fight and now you've got one.

XxSabrinaxX:
That's not even the issue here. Look up our convo history on this thread. The kid's been straight up disrespectful. Throwing ad hominem shades for nothing. I, for one, LOVE that he's ready to follow me down the dark abyss. He should maintain the energy . I just hope it won't end like my last fight on the religion section where my opponent made it boring by avoiding/ignoring my mentions

XxSabrinaxX:
Bwaaaaaah haaaaah haaaah!!! .

It seems you are a glutton for punishment. LOL @ "lame insults". You must not be familiar with my moniker. Ask hulk616, Ask MJBOLT. Ask TheKingIsHere. You're walking barefoot on eggshells if you don't know. I can see you're a mentally and emotionally unstable sour bag of sperm and that's why I'm refraining from dialing up your depression levels to infinity with mere words. If I touch you, you will feel it. Keep up this disrespectful nonsense and you'll end up deactivating Myth121. Mark my words. I've only ever gone berserk on ONE moniker on NL. If you want to see the method to my madness, be my guest.

This is the warning shot, Myth121. Run away while you still can...

XxSabrinaxX:
Bwahahahahahahh! LOL! Tears in my eyes

It was only a matter of time before you revealed what a sore insecure loser you really are. You said you're not a KID but that I'm arguing with CHILDREN . Last time I checked, the only person I'm arguing with here is YOU. You came in here on your high horse wanking your precious Flash villains but you got outgunned, out-thought, chewed up, and spat out like the mucus you are. Get a life boy. I don't have to insult my intelligence by arguing with you. I'll just let the likes of hulk616 chaff your dirty arse. Your fellow DC fans are laughing at you if you didn't know. I'm just here thinking of how your parents, your teachers, everyone you've ever known has failed you

XxSabrinaxX:
...which is useless because TONS of marvel characters can't be restricted by sub-zero temps


So what? He'll reflect Marvel to death? . Honestly, most marvel mid-tiers can take him. Quit bouncing on his rod.


In a battle like this, you should be talking of the high-enders seeing as they have the most capacity for damage. Not the street tiers. Street tiers are NON-FACTORS here.


Why don't you stop playing with mom's phone and get ready for school tomorrow? You live in Nigeria, don't you?

XxSabrinaxX:
If I may ask, what stretching regime do you use that allows you put your head up your arse and your foot in your mouth at the same time?

XxSabrinaxX:
Yo. Tell the dumbass to stop speaking in absolutes. Anyone can talk in absolutes, doesn't make him/her right. He's telling me Zoom is going to solo the entire Marvel U. Then he goes on with dumb rhetorics. I think i'm equally allowed to say Franklin solos if that's how y'all argue.

I don't even wanna get into this shite. LOL. I guess I'll just watch someone else chaff his arse with his own faulty logic.

XxSabrinaxX:
If stated as a fact/claim and not as a metaphor, fallacy of presuppositionaism in that there was an actual God (a coherent definition/description/identity required) to have died.

XxSabrinaxX:
Life does not have inherent universal or objective meaning; to say that our lives are objectively pointless and our achievements meaningless is to state the obvious. No matter how grand our achievements or how broad their scope, time turns all to dust and death destroys all memory. But that does not mean we cannot ascribe our own local meaning to what we do. It is because nothing has meaning unto itself that we are free to create our own meaning, and in doing so reflect meaning upon ourselves and our world.

XxSabrinaxX:
But your statement does raise a question regarding your personality OP. What level of narcissism must you have in order to support that your life has actual consequential meaning beyond the local environment?

XxSabrinaxX:
The term "justification" implies that there was some sort of ante-hoc purpose to life, to cognitive existence.

adoyi8:
As far as I know, my body was programmed to do three things.
1. look for what to eat.
2. run away from danger
3. try to reproduce
like most other animals. my brain secretes chemicals to force me do this things at the approriate time.

johnydon22:
Can you demonstrate how a universe with a God isn't just as meaningless? Pray tell, how?

Pray tell. How do you justify yours with God?

The subject of morality is in fact the best argument a theist can have.

One may argue that God doesn't exist but one cannot argue against the structural premise of a theistic moral derivation because it is actually sound.

However, i on the other hand argue that morality is intersubjective. The basis been on the intersubjective belief on the moral subject other than the action.

Mille:
You can be well assured our framework for morality is not based on a fictitious book which encourages slavery and commands the murder of innocent men, women and children.

Vic2Ree:
Can you explain why please?

963AvatarSpirit:
Lucifer coined the name God to create an opposite of himself in his real estate. God is just a word. But if you meant Infinity Intelligence Creator ? It is an insult to call it God. Atlesst have the decency to call it Almighty God. We are it's sparks and atoms.

He is our greatest grand father and we are his DNA

XxSabrinaxX:
If "Well we can't know that it isn't true" is your best argument for the existence of God... I remain skeptical.

XxSabrinaxX:
You think that an all-encompassing purpose is beneficial to humanity, but what happens when not everyone shares the purpose you believe they should have? Historically, the answer is conflict.

You see, the idea that everyone should share the same belief is one rooted in the desire for war, not peace. "If they're not with us, they're against us" is a common trait of this sort of thinking.

Why do you suppose Religions want to spread the idea that an all-encompassing shared purpose is the "right" way to do things? I think, perhaps, that it is a good way to motivate men to do things they would not normally do if they simply accepted that all people are individuals with different ideas and different experiences.

Could we not all live together more peacefully if we simply accept that there is no all-encompassing shared purpose but that we all have a purpose that is our own and should be respected as so? I believe so.

XxSabrinaxX:
Intelligent design? Okay. Do you believe there are any benefits? Why or why not? Your OP doesn't really say anything to that effect.

Niflheim:
@op,

Why would I believe in the Big Bang? Is the Big Bang a belief?!!!

The Big Bang is backed by evidence, so there is no need to believe in it!!!

Niflheim:
@op,

Why would I believe in the Big Bang? Is the Big Bang a belief?!!!

The Big Bang is backed by evidence, so there is no need to believe in it!!!

XxSabrinaxX:
Yes really, if god exists and is omniscient, omnipresent and intervening as most religions assert, then chance cannot exist because everything is dancing in gods palm.

By acknowledging chance exists, you are therefore claiming god is not all powerful? In which case why accept the the bullshit that it is all powerful?

Pick one.




You are aware of what a loaded question is right? It's a question with a false/disputed presupposition e.g.

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"
1. "Yes, I have stopped beating my wife", which implies "I was beating my wife."
2. "No, I haven't stopped beating my wife", which implies "I am still beating my wife."

Likewise when you ask "Why do you exist?". The presupposition in dispute here is the why i.e. there is some externally derived reason for your existence i.e. in the context of this discussion presumably this would be assigned by "god"? Thus god has "intent" with regards to your creation / existence. The question is loaded because of the potential responses:
1. "I exist because..." implying there is an externally imbued reason to exist i.e. you were "created with intent".
2. "I do not exist because..." implying hard solipsism.

Obviously most atheists are not going to respond with the latter, because we accept reality as a reasonable presupposition. Thus it's an attempt to strong arm people into answering in a way that you want. If you were being genuine you could have said "What purpose have you found in your life?"

I don't know how to make it simpler than that.




* Obedience... never question.
* Patience... remain content in ignorance. Combined with the former would conclude with "fundamentalism".
* Virtues... Homophobia, Slavery, Genocide, Incest, Arguments from ignorance (lying) is preferable to saying "i don't know"; to name a few.
* Evangelization... basically means proselytizing, keeping your fellow theists in line, etc. Correct me if i'm wrong.



I was Christian till i was about 15-16, which is when i started asking questions, i stopped giving a shit around then but i didn't self identify as atheist until 3 years ago (didn't even know what it meant). Ironically I and many atheists probably know the bible / religion better than most Christians... hence why we're atheists.




Charities (religious or no) respond to tragedy, in which case there is no point in appealing to this as an argument. Clearly people can be humanists regardless of their theistic standing.

Niflheim:
@op,

Who are the atheists that you met that according to you, claim that they are a product of chance and luck(lucky dune)?

XxSabrinaxX:
You do realize you're saying god doesn't exist because chance does... right?

XxSabrinaxX:
No it doesn't. Example?

XxSabrinaxX:
You're asking a loaded question.

Assuming there is a purpose behind anythings existence implies it was "created" and imbued with that purpose from inception.

But that is still just an assumption. You need to provide objective evidence there actually was a creator/intent behind the thing in questions (a persons) creation.

Assuming intent where there is none, it's referred to as hyperactive agency detection and it's manifest because we evolved to favor type 1 errors in cognition, Michael Shermer expounds on the ethos of it here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AjLmU0Sfu4

So what are the effects of this? Cults, religions, UFO sightings, superstitions (black cats, friday 13th), crop circles, conspiracy theories, etc are manifestations of this mechanism.

Why these specific things? Because of the root of this primitive reflex (as shown in Shermers presentation) i.e. we have the predisposition to assume intent. The above are widespread enough, reasonably complex issues and shrouded in enough mystery to be thought provoking, just like lightning as a phenomena was in the past.

And it really is a primitive reflex. How do we know this? Because if you ask a toddler "why does that flower exist?" often times you'll get the response : "because it's pretty". In other words they're assigning agency and assuming the flower was intentionally created so they could find it pretty.

But it gets worse, when you add in the cultural aspect of today's societies (particularly typical education systems). How? Well today's schools equate "not knowing" to "being wrong". Consequently people are forced to answer, but cannot afford to be wrong, so what happens? Subjectivity (opinion, even without evidence / reason) becomes accepted as a form of correctness (political / social / etc).

An interesting thought experiment on this subject is Douglas Adams, sentient puddle:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8mJr4c66bs

TL;DR Do i think there is a preordained purpose behind my existence? Nope. The only thing that could be inherent as a purpose of "life" is to create more life.

Would there be any advantages for the "ID" model? Other than lazyness / ability to hold apathy, none that i can see. It's like if you were born into a state of "perfect" communism, everything is decided for you (education, job, family, etc) and as long as you stick with the plan you don't have to care about anything.

cococandy:
So then focus on the ones that made sense to you.

cococandy:
I’m not rude. for starters

cococandy:
I’m not homophobic.

MelaninGold:
I already told you that your dick stinks. You are obviously in pain