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Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 2:09pm On Jun 11, 2013
My last post on this thread.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21764675

Thread unfollowed.
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 2:08pm On Jun 11, 2013
hercules07: What you should argue for is the government to seek the co-operation of those who are sincere, our newspapers have a role to play by not glorifying the acts of BH, but, GEJ can not do it by threats, it does not work, civilized behaviour requires that the government rises above BH, there are better ways to handle these things, how anybody can be in favour of giving blanket powers to those in position of authority who have shown over and over again that they can not be trusted with basic powers is beyond me.
+100
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 1:40pm On Jun 11, 2013
Deep Sight: ^^^ The point is that there is some necessary unpleasantness in every situation of emergency powers. Go look at the Homeland Security Act in the USA, there are many unpleasant but necessary things there.

Desperate situations demand desperate solutions, this is well known.
Including killing and maiming innocent people (probably someone you know)?
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 1:39pm On Jun 11, 2013
For me this is not even about GEJ or the current government. Like others have said, who knows what kind of government we'll have after GEJ's government? Who knows what they'll use these powers for?
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 1:37pm On Jun 11, 2013
Deep Sight: Please remember that the accused still have to stand before a court and be tried and found to actually have aided terrorism.
Deep Sight: Quite inevitable in situations such as this.
That's why I mentioned Giwa Barracks. Please try and find out what was happening there.

1) There is no guarantee that the person will appear before a judge.

2) Even if the person does appear before a judge, what would have happened to him before he gets to court?
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 1:26pm On Jun 11, 2013
Deep Sight: ^^^ Uyi made an important distinction between describing an event and actively inciting, etc, nevertheless you should see and respond to my explanation above on the conflict between civic responsibility and journalistic codes on such matters.

I should also ask you if you were a Journalist who, by reason of being invited for an interview with shekau, knew his location, what would you do with that information? Nothing?
1) The act prohibits you from distributing "inciting" information. Therefore, if Shekau's speech is inciting and you post it on nairaland (as has often been done here) you have committed an offence. This is different from a reporter "saying" that Shekau posted a video.

2) If you were "invited" to an interview with Shekau, you would noot know his location (one of the reasons why I haven't seen an interview with Shekau). The terrorists will not trust you either. What usually happens here is that they would either e-mail you or drop off messages for you. However, let's use the BBC example. Someone drops off a message asking if you want to interview Shekau. You reply via an e-mail. One day people appear out of no where and pick you off the streets and blindfold you. They take you to somewhere where Shekau is waiting and you interview him. Can you be arrested for associating with him? Can you publish your interview?

3) If you want to know how Nigerian security agents respond to these kinds of things, try and find out what's going on at Giwa Barracks.

Remember, it's the duty of the various organs of the political system to protect the interests of ordinary members of society who may or may not have a voice. These organs include the legislature, the judiciary, the media (as the fourth estate of the realm), the opposition, complaints commission, etc. In raising this question, CAN is performing their job as the opposition. I would have been disappointed if they didn't raise the question. It is also the duty of the government to reply and assure the populace that innocent people will not be victimised as a result of this order. It is also their duty to assure that freedom of speech will be protected.

Ii support the government in the war against terror, but I'm opposed to a situation where innocent people will suffer needlessly because of this. That innocent person could be you or me or someone we know.
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 1:02pm On Jun 11, 2013
Uyi Iredia: The fear of CAN and people like eGuerilla is that the phrase 'the dissemination of terrorist information' is vague and could be used to clamp down media reports of terrorist activities. Not so. Let's look at a part of the subsection.

". . . incitement to commit a terrorist act through the internet, or any electronic means or through the use of printed materials or through the dissemination of terrorist information; . . ."

The highlighted phrase defines that such disseminated information must be one that INCITES terrorist act. Need I precent what incite means ? Are media reports of BH an incitement (or a description) ?
naptu2: Another example (question that was asked). Shekau makes a new video and posts it on youtube. Someone posts that video on nairaland. Are Seun, nairaland and the nairalander guilty of disseminating terrorist information (of course Shekau will be inciting violence in the video)?
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 12:32pm On Jun 11, 2013
Another example (question that was asked). Shekau makes a new video and posts it on youtube. Someone posts that video on nairaland. Are Seun, nairaland and the nairalander guilty of disseminating terrorist information (of course Shekau will be inciting violence in the video)?
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 12:26pm On Jun 11, 2013
"Through the dissemination of terrorist information". This means that even nairaland can be held liable for disseminating terrorist information.
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 12:20pm On Jun 11, 2013
officially brings the activities of both groups within the purview of the Terrorism Prevention Act and any persons associated with the two groups can now be legally prosecuted and sentenced to penalties specified in the Act.

“The proscription order warns the general public that any person participating in any form of activities involving or concerning the collective intentions of the said groups will be violating the provisions of the Terrorism Prevention Act.

“Section 5 (1) of the act prescribes a term of imprisonment of not less than 20 years for any person who knowingly, in any manner, directly or indirectly, solicits or renders support for the commission of an act of terrorism or to a terrorist group.

“For the purposes of subsection (1) of the section, “support” include:

(a) incitement to commit a terrorist act through the internet, or any electronic means or through the use of printed materials or through the dissemination of terrorist information;

(b) receipt or provision of material assistance, weapons including biological, chemical or nuclear weapons, explosives, training, transportation, false documentation or identification to terrorists or terrorist groups;

(c) receipt or provision of information or moral assistance, including invitation to adhere to a terrorist or terrorist group;

(d) entering or remaining in a country for the benefit of, or at the direction of or in association with a terrorist group; or

(e) the provision of, or making available, such financial or other related services prohibited under this Act or as may be prescribed by regulations made pursuant to this Act.”
So the question is, can a guardian reporter who secretly meets a boko haram member and interviews him be sentenced to twenty years in jail for associating with terrorists? What implications does this have for freedom of speech/the press? These were the questions that were asked on that thread.
Politics › Re: Gbawe, Whats Your Take On ACN's Stand On Boko Haram? by naptu2: 12:12pm On Jun 11, 2013
Interestingly, this question came up a few months ago on nairaland (I'll search for the thread).

Basically, Boko Haram communicates with the media via certain channels (for example, they usually communicate with a certain journalist). Now the question is this; are those journalists merely performing their lawful duties or are they engaged in a crime?
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 9:54am On Jun 11, 2013
Obiagelli: You can always count on oga Naptu2 for very useful and informative threads, God bless you Sir.
Waiting for your book o
grin Thanks dear. God bless you too. Soon. Very soon.
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 9:52am On Jun 11, 2013
donroxy: Tis educative ... Jah bless u Naptu !!
Jah bless you too smiley
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 9:51am On Jun 11, 2013
Abu Mikey: May God bless you for this Wonderful Post sir.
More grease to your elbow!!!!
Amen! God bless you too.
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 9:50am On Jun 11, 2013
Eko Atlantic: Good one naptu.
Thanks dear.
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 9:49am On Jun 11, 2013
Crassus: good job naptu
Thanks very much.
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 9:48am On Jun 11, 2013
Egba girl: Wow!!! Thank Naptu2!! This is awesome!
Thanks very much smiley
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Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:23am On Jun 11, 2013
That's all folks.
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:22am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:21am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:21am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:20am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:19am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:18am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:16am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:15am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:14am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:13am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 5:04am On Jun 11, 2013
[quote author=Yeske!]Awesome, insightful and educative but that of Benin empire be as e get. Decapitation, is it to instill fear in their neighbours or what?[/quote]Thanks very much. I suspect that's the intent - fear amongst their neighbours and order within the empire.
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 4:21am On Jun 11, 2013
Politics › Re: State, Regional And Federal Flags And Symbols Of Nigeria by naptu2(op): 4:19am On Jun 11, 2013
Sokoto Caliphate (this flag was also used by quite a few emirates in the caliphate)
[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/887963_Sokoto20Caliphate_png4d800d68db575181fdaadc612fd47037[/img]

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