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This reminds me of Queen Elizabeth. In the early 1990s I saw a huge picture of the Queen picking her nose. I can't remember if it was in Hello or OK magazine.

Here's another pic of the Queen picking her nose.

eleven: I think you guys are not being realistic. If you are doctors I will advise you quickly answer your queries to position yourself strategically.

The doctors are fighting a lost battle. Unfortunately they have abused the instrument of strike and have made nuisance of their esteemed profession.

They were not smart enough to know that by not answering their queries, they have inadvertently allowed the politicians to hold them in a corner and yet could not eat the humble pie to retreat and continue the fight through internal pallying with the government.

Head or tail, the government has won. Should they ever get their jobs back, they can never complain again at least till the end of Governor Fashola's administration.

My advise is answer your queries, you can use the sworn Hippocratic vow as an excuse and Lagosians will understand.

For everyday the strike continues, the hatred for Lagos state doctors increases from the populist.

The damage being created by the doctors now will need massive and continuous image laundering to restore.

Please don't expect victims of this strike to forgive you easily.

Be humble, answer your queries and remember you can never be bigger than your employers as long as you are still under their employment.

Good luck!

Brilliant!

This article was published a year ago

A Lagos doctor’s pay slip

Sam Eferaro 23/03/2011 00:51:00

I had to clean my glasses again and again to ensure my eyes were not playing dirty tricks on me as I examined the small piece of paper containing the details of the doctor’s pay for the month. After all I’d written, I needed to scrutinise every letter and figure very well in case I needed to drag someone to the police station for forgery. With my mouth agape, I discovered I was actually staring at a senior doctor’s January pay slip and it was indeed issued by the state government.

The figure was certainly not anywhere near the LASG Health Service Salary structure “Effective from January 2011)” that I got from Alausa two weeks ago. After some deductions, the doctor’s salary was just a little over N300,000. By the new salary structure, this senior doctor who also doubles as a consultant at the College of Medicine should be earning far above N700,000. That’s what the copy of the new salary structure I’m staring at as I write this tells me. That’s what has been circulated to virtually everyone in the state which has elicited our anger against the doctors. Someone must be lying. I stared at the doctor again and again. No, he couldn’t have forged the pay slip.

Suddenly it dawned on me that we may have been a bit too hard on the Lagos doctors. Perhaps we need to hear them out after all. Perhaps we need to simmer a bit, drop our bias as neglected patients and spare a thought for our doctors. This senior doctor on N300,000 plus is not just a starry-eyed fresh graduate from the medical college. Apart from his MBBS he has some strings of degrees in one or two specialisations in the medical field. He has been on the job for over ten to twelve years not only managing patients but also teaching, nurturing and mentoring young men and women in the medical profession.

Oh no, he deserves more than N300,000. And you know what, his counterpart in nearby LUTH or Orthopaedic hospital, Igbobi earns almost twice this salary! Of course I still believe that the doctor, for whatever reason, should not turn his back on his patient. Life is just too sacred to be sacrificed for any cause no matter how important. I still believe the current CONMESS salary structure should not have even degenerated to a strike if well managed. Above all, I believe strongly that the doctors’ plight is far beyond the CONMESS salary issue. If the truth must be told, the doctors are their own enemies! Like the Nigerians they are, some of them, especially their NMA leaders, have allowed greed, pursuit of self interests, high level corruption and an unparallel self-centredness to deny their colleagues and future doctors yet unborn the remuneration, quality of life and appropriate respect befitting of people we entrust our lives with.

I can still see the senior doctor’s angry expression, helplessness and frustration. He can’t build a house worthy of his status with his N300,000 plus. He can’t buy a brand new car with his salary and the state government would not give him one. No, this doctor’s monthly N300,000 will not send his children to schools in Ghana not to talk of the US or Britain where our politician’s children are being educated. That salary will not give him a deserved holiday which he must have if he will not just collapse one day as result of his hectic and almost inhuman schedule.

As I peruse this Lagos doctor’s pay slip, I just can’t help wondering if he would not have fared better if he had a more responsible and responsive professional body to fight his cause – certainly not the NMA which has become a toothless and spent association that can no longer cater for its own. Somehow, I believe this doctor would not have to feel the impact of the state government’s poor salary structure if he had a professional body that can also take care of his human needs, a professional body that will think of some welfare packages for him like a housing scheme, insurance, transportation amongst others. N300,000 for a very senior doctor? I think the Lagos State government owes us more explanation.

Governor of Lagos state fires all doctors on strike 

Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 6:48AM

Lagos State Government Monday fired 788 medical doctors following their refusal to suspend their 13-day-old industrial action.

The government simultaneously employed 373 fresh ones "for immediate deployment in the public hospitals while recruitment continues".

The Head of Service (HoS) of Lagos State, Mr. Adesegun Ogunlewe, said in a press statement that the dismissed doctors were axed by the "Lagos State University Teaching Hospital Board and the State's Health Service Commission (HSC) following an illegal strike embarked upon by the doctors since April 16, 2012".

He also said the two bodies attributed the sack to the refusal of the doctors to answer to queries issued to them to explain why they were absent from work without leave and without the due observance of the rules and regulations guiding strikes and industrial actions in the state's public service.

According to Ogunlewe, 316 of the doctors were working with the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital while the remaining 472 were from other hospitals in the state.

Explaining the acts leading to the sack of the doctors, the HoS said: "Resulting from the contemptible act of the Medical Doctors LASUTH Board and HSC, the two bodies that appointed them in line with subsisting statutes, served those who were 'Absent without Leave' (AWOL) with queries", adding that while a handful of them responded, a majority of the doctors shunned the query.

He maintained that the strike came as a rude shock to the state government "since the leadership of the medical guild still met during the week preceding the illegal strike with top government officials in charge of health and establishment sectors".

On what made the strike illegal, the statement said, among other things, that the doctors only gave the state government 24 hours notice "as against the time-tested and statute-bound processes and procedures for declaration of industrial disputes".

THISDAY also gathered from the Special Adviser to the Governor on Information and Strategy, Mr. Lateef Raji, that the doctors' decision to stay away from work, despite government efforts to revamp the state's health sector, was regrettable.

He alleged that "the strike was politically motivated", adding that it was curious that "the doctors could abandon their jobs at such a critical moment like this, when the state government is investing heavily in the sector".

Raji insisted that the need to replace the doctors was aimed at saving the state's health sector from total paralysis.

The state government also alleged that the doctors consume 60 per cent of its total annual recurrent expenditure, disclosing further that an average house officers earns as much as N173,927.33 monthly, while a consultant takes home as much as N801, 985.09, excluding the teaching allowances.

Raji rejected the doctors' claim that the government had been adamant on its demands, explaining further that the government expends nothing less than N20 million on the training of each of its 339 resident doctors at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH).

Raji, who further said only Lagos State competes with the Federal Government on the payment of its doctors, added: "We match the Federal Government naira-for-naira. We don't short change our doctors."

In the recent medical/officers' salary regime published by the state government, doctors on level 12, step two, earn 207, 629.75; level 12, step three officers 213,784.00; level 12 step 4 N219,938.30 while level 12, step 15 officers earn N226,092.42.

In the same vein, doctors on level 15, step six earn 408,387.50; medical officers on level 15 step seven, earn N420,375.50, while those on level 15 step eight earn N432,363.50.

On the other hand, senior medical doctors at the consultant cadre of level 17 step 4 earn 703,390.50; level 17 step five officers earn 723,109.25; level 17 step six officers earn N742, 828.33, level 17, step seven officers earn N762,547.25, level 17, step eight doctors earn N782,266.17 while level 17 step nine officers earn N801, 985.09.

The doctors had, on April 24, embarked on an indefinite strike following the expiration of their initial three-day warning strike between April 11 and 13. Key on their demands' list is that the state government should effect a 100 per cent implementation of the Consolidated Medical Salary Structure (CONMESS).

In September 2010, the doctors had also embarked on a three-month strike to press home its demand for payment of 100 per cent CONMESS.

However, after three months of fruitless negotiations, Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola approved 75 per cent salary increase, prompting the doctors to suspend the strike.

The ongoing action is aimed at compelling the state government to implement the entire CONMESS.

Meanwhile, the state Chairman of Nigeria Medical Association (NMA), Dr. Edamisan Temiye, after an emergency congress, said the association described the government's action as draconian, undemocratic and most uncalled for.

"If they do this to the doctors and they survive, they will do it to the other workers in the health team. They have turned everybody to their slaves because they think they are so big now that people should become their slaves."

He explained that last week, at its 52nd Annual General Conference and Delegates' Meeting, the decision-making body of the NMA had reviewed what was happening in Lagos State and were very disturbed and arrived at the decision to set up an elders' committee to meet with the state government.

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bola4dprec: God will punish the devil and his agents in term of economic policy USA is not comparable to NIGERIA why comparing US and NIGERIA in term of security system why do you people like to imitate devil system of government ? What if America impose gay or lesbian system of intimacy why not adopting bible or islamic system of government. Fear of God is beinging of wisdow America is the major source of world destruction NIGERIA wake up

This article was published a year ago

A Lagos doctor’s pay slip

Sam Eferaro 23/03/2011 00:51:00

I had to clean my glasses again and again to ensure my eyes were not playing dirty tricks on me as I examined the small piece of paper containing the details of the doctor’s pay for the month. After all I’d written, I needed to scrutinise every letter and figure very well in case I needed to drag someone to the police station for forgery. With my mouth agape, I discovered I was actually staring at a senior doctor’s January pay slip and it was indeed issued by the state government.

The figure was certainly not anywhere near the LASG Health Service Salary structure “Effective from January 2011)” that I got from Alausa two weeks ago. After some deductions, the doctor’s salary was just a little over N300,000. By the new salary structure, this senior doctor who also doubles as a consultant at the College of Medicine should be earning far above N700,000. That’s what the copy of the new salary structure I’m staring at as I write this tells me. That’s what has been circulated to virtually everyone in the state which has elicited our anger against the doctors. Someone must be lying. I stared at the doctor again and again. No, he couldn’t have forged the pay slip.

Suddenly it dawned on me that we may have been a bit too hard on the Lagos doctors. Perhaps we need to hear them out after all. Perhaps we need to simmer a bit, drop our bias as neglected patients and spare a thought for our doctors. This senior doctor on N300,000 plus is not just a starry-eyed fresh graduate from the medical college. Apart from his MBBS he has some strings of degrees in one or two specialisations in the medical field. He has been on the job for over ten to twelve years not only managing patients but also teaching, nurturing and mentoring young men and women in the medical profession.

Oh no, he deserves more than N300,000. And you know what, his counterpart in nearby LUTH or Orthopaedic hospital, Igbobi earns almost twice this salary! Of course I still believe that the doctor, for whatever reason, should not turn his back on his patient. Life is just too sacred to be sacrificed for any cause no matter how important. I still believe the current CONMESS salary structure should not have even degenerated to a strike if well managed. Above all, I believe strongly that the doctors’ plight is far beyond the CONMESS salary issue. If the truth must be told, the doctors are their own enemies! Like the Nigerians they are, some of them, especially their NMA leaders, have allowed greed, pursuit of self interests, high level corruption and an unparallel self-centredness to deny their colleagues and future doctors yet unborn the remuneration, quality of life and appropriate respect befitting of people we entrust our lives with.

I can still see the senior doctor’s angry expression, helplessness and frustration. He can’t build a house worthy of his status with his N300,000 plus. He can’t buy a brand new car with his salary and the state government would not give him one. No, this doctor’s monthly N300,000 will not send his children to schools in Ghana not to talk of the US or Britain where our politician’s children are being educated. That salary will not give him a deserved holiday which he must have if he will not just collapse one day as result of his hectic and almost inhuman schedule.

As I peruse this Lagos doctor’s pay slip, I just can’t help wondering if he would not have fared better if he had a more responsible and responsive professional body to fight his cause – certainly not the NMA which has become a toothless and spent association that can no longer cater for its own. Somehow, I believe this doctor would not have to feel the impact of the state government’s poor salary structure if he had a professional body that can also take care of his human needs, a professional body that will think of some welfare packages for him like a housing scheme, insurance, transportation amongst others. N300,000 for a very senior doctor? I think the Lagos State government owes us more explanation.

Governor of Lagos state fires all doctors on strike 

Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 6:48AM

Lagos State Government Monday fired 788 medical doctors following their refusal to suspend their 13-day-old industrial action.

The government simultaneously employed 373 fresh ones "for immediate deployment in the public hospitals while recruitment continues".

The Head of Service (HoS) of Lagos State, Mr. Adesegun Ogunlewe, said in a press statement that the dismissed doctors were axed by the "Lagos State University Teaching Hospital Board and the State's Health Service Commission (HSC) following an illegal strike embarked upon by the doctors since April 16, 2012".

He also said the two bodies attributed the sack to the refusal of the doctors to answer to queries issued to them to explain why they were absent from work without leave and without the due observance of the rules and regulations guiding strikes and industrial actions in the state's public service.

According to Ogunlewe, 316 of the doctors were working with the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital while the remaining 472 were from other hospitals in the state.

Explaining the acts leading to the sack of the doctors, the HoS said: "Resulting from the contemptible act of the Medical Doctors LASUTH Board and HSC, the two bodies that appointed them in line with subsisting statutes, served those who were 'Absent without Leave' (AWOL) with queries", adding that while a handful of them responded, a majority of the doctors shunned the query.

He maintained that the strike came as a rude shock to the state government "since the leadership of the medical guild still met during the week preceding the illegal strike with top government officials in charge of health and establishment sectors".

On what made the strike illegal, the statement said, among other things, that the doctors only gave the state government 24 hours notice "as against the time-tested and statute-bound processes and procedures for declaration of industrial disputes".

THISDAY also gathered from the Special Adviser to the Governor on Information and Strategy, Mr. Lateef Raji, that the doctors' decision to stay away from work, despite government efforts to revamp the state's health sector, was regrettable.

He alleged that "the strike was politically motivated", adding that it was curious that "the doctors could abandon their jobs at such a critical moment like this, when the state government is investing heavily in the sector".

Raji insisted that the need to replace the doctors was aimed at saving the state's health sector from total paralysis.

The state government also alleged that the doctors consume 60 per cent of its total annual recurrent expenditure, disclosing further that an average house officers earns as much as N173,927.33 monthly, while a consultant takes home as much as N801, 985.09, excluding the teaching allowances.

Raji rejected the doctors' claim that the government had been adamant on its demands, explaining further that the government expends nothing less than N20 million on the training of each of its 339 resident doctors at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH).

Raji, who further said only Lagos State competes with the Federal Government on the payment of its doctors, added: "We match the Federal Government naira-for-naira. We don't short change our doctors."

In the recent medical/officers' salary regime published by the state government, doctors on level 12, step two, earn 207, 629.75; level 12, step three officers 213,784.00; level 12 step 4 N219,938.30 while level 12, step 15 officers earn N226,092.42.

In the same vein, doctors on level 15, step six earn 408,387.50; medical officers on level 15 step seven, earn N420,375.50, while those on level 15 step eight earn N432,363.50.

On the other hand, senior medical doctors at the consultant cadre of level 17 step 4 earn 703,390.50; level 17 step five officers earn 723,109.25; level 17 step six officers earn N742, 828.33, level 17, step seven officers earn N762,547.25, level 17, step eight doctors earn N782,266.17 while level 17 step nine officers earn N801, 985.09.

The doctors had, on April 24, embarked on an indefinite strike following the expiration of their initial three-day warning strike between April 11 and 13. Key on their demands' list is that the state government should effect a 100 per cent implementation of the Consolidated Medical Salary Structure (CONMESS).

In September 2010, the doctors had also embarked on a three-month strike to press home its demand for payment of 100 per cent CONMESS.

However, after three months of fruitless negotiations, Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola approved 75 per cent salary increase, prompting the doctors to suspend the strike.

The ongoing action is aimed at compelling the state government to implement the entire CONMESS.

Meanwhile, the state Chairman of Nigeria Medical Association (NMA), Dr. Edamisan Temiye, after an emergency congress, said the association described the government's action as draconian, undemocratic and most uncalled for.

"If they do this to the doctors and they survive, they will do it to the other workers in the health team. They have turned everybody to their slaves because they think they are so big now that people should become their slaves."

He explained that last week, at its 52nd Annual General Conference and Delegates' Meeting, the decision-making body of the NMA had reviewed what was happening in Lagos State and were very disturbed and arrived at the decision to set up an elders' committee to meet with the state government.

I was twice banned by the spambot for posting this story. I hope I don't get banned again. I'll try and paraphrase it.

Gen Buhari is on nairaland proclaiming that Abacha is a saint. There are people who believe that Babangida is a saint. He hasn't been convicted of anything. He is seen as a hero by many in Niger State.

Check out what the private doctors are doing. This is what I meant when I said Lagos doctors should show love.


Sacked Lagos doctors lobby for reinstatement

By Sola Ogundipe & Chioma Obinna


LAGOS — Indications emerged, weekend, that some of the 788 doctors
sacked by the Lagos State government are now lobbying to get reinstated.
Investigations by Vanguard revealed that some of the doctors have started
responding to the queries they had earlier refused to respond to. They are banking on the support of top officials in the ministry to influence their reinstatement.


An impeccable source from the Lagos State Ministry of Health, disclosed to
Vanguard that some of the doctors that are making moves under ground
confessed that they were already tired of staying at home as they have mouths to feed and bills to pay.


The source who pleaded anonymity, further noted that top officials within the ministry were still considering using their influence to get the doctors reinstated.


It was also gathered that the doctors’ request might be granted since even the
ministry have been having challenge recruiting new doctors.

Currently, many of the doctors were not happy with the recalcitrant position of
their leaders on their agitation but were co-operating in order not to rock the boat of the struggle.


“Even the Nigerian Medical Association, NMA, National President, Dr. Osahon
Enabulele is not happy with position of the Medical Guild on the Consolidated
Medical Salary Structure, CONMESS, issue but he is afraid that he might be
impeached if he fails to dance to the tune of the doctors. I had a meeting with him last Thursday when he confided in me,” the source said.


According to him, the elders in the medical profession were not happy with
the way the sacked doctors have turned strikes into object of blackmail, saying they were ready to call strikes at the slightest provocation, stating: “Even if you mistakenly hit one of them on the leg, they may decide to call for as strike.”


It’s an attempt to break our ranks -
Odusote

But in a swift reaction, the Chairman of the Lagos Medical Guilds, the umbrella body of the sacked doctors, Dr. Olumuyiwa Odusote, described the insinuation that the doctors were
lobbying to get reinstated by the state government as a blatant lie, saying “it is an attempt to break our ranks.”


AGPMPN begins free health services

Meanwhile, Chairman Association of General Private Medical Practitioners,
AGPMPN, Lagos Chapter, Dr. Olayinka Oladosu has announced at the weekend
that beginning from today, the association would start offering free
health services especially emergency cases to residents of Lagos carrying the cards of public hospitals following the total collapse of health services in public hospitals across the state.


He said: “We have about 84 centres across the state where people can
access free health across the state. The information at our disposal about loss of lives is alarming and we are grieving about this. These are the lives we cannot create. We believe the provision of this service will provide succor to the masses.”


Oladosu said the AGPMPN, Lagos State Branch would not seat back and go
against the Hippocratic Oath that its members had sworn to. “The association
is not forcing any of its members to create this succour lines. Similarly, no one is forcing the AGPMPN to do it.”


Giving a breakdown of the facility created to address the problem of total
shut down of public health facilities in Lagos; Oladosu said there would be an average of seven centres to serve as succor lines in each local government in Lagos State.


Explaining why this plan became necessary, the National President of
AGPMPN, Dr. Anthony Omolola described the situation in Lagos as a period of
sober reflection. “It is a time to sympathise with Lagosians,”

According to Omolola, the information at the disposal of the leadership of the AGPMPN is that the loss of lives this period is quite alarming and is grieving members of the association because “We cannot make life and we should not make life to be departed.”


www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/sacked-lagos-doctors-lobby-for-reinstatement/

Finally! Now and then pictures of MacGregor Canal.

1) MacGregor Canal in the 1950s

2) MacGregor Canal in March 2008

3) MacGregor Canal in 2010

G8 leaders watching the Champions League final.

Right, ignorance, jealousy and deceit. That's the kind of comment that'd help (smh). Can we also say that the doctors who compared their salaries to the salaries received by lawyers and judges are Jealous?

The other thread: https://www.nairaland.com/941448/lagos-doctors-views

1)When ASUU goes on strike they demand for better laboratories, libraries, etc. Of course they demand for better pay, but at the forefront of their demand is better labs, libraries, etc. The public can relate with this.

2) When members of the public ask questions and come up with contrary views, ASUU takes the time to explain the reasons for their agitation. ASUU does not insult members of the public.

3) Attempts to gain sympathy by talking about poor pay, etc will not succeed. Most Nigerian civil servants are poorly paid. They'll simply ask, "what makes you different?"


This is a democracy and in a democracy a good way to win your case is to get public opinion on your side. The NMA has certainly not done a good job in this regard. If they show love to the people, the people will love them back. How do you show love?

1) Go on strike, but allow some doctors to continue handling emergency cases. Use this as a publicity tool to show the people that, although you are suffering, you still care about them.

2) Expand your agitation. Yes, you want higher salaries, but that's not all you are agitating for. We want a universal medical insurance scheme, that'll raise money for the health sector and make it easier to handle emergency cases. We want better equipments, etc. This will convince the public that you are not just thinking about yourself, but you have their interests at heart.


3) Conduct research (ASUU is very good at this). You want higher salaries, but the government is complaining that your salaries gulp 60% of recurrent expenditure. Demonstrate, with facts and figures, that the government can afford the increase and that it has no excuse.

4) NMA has allowed the government to give it the reputation of a very troublesome organisation. To avoid this, the NMA should have insisted on getting everything it wanted at a go. Repeat strikes make you look troublesome. The NMA should also meet with trade unions/associations of other health workers and sort out the problem of disparity in salaries.

5) Hold regular press conferences, so that the public will hear your side of the story.


Lastly, the issue of salaries of political office holders has been discussed many times. A simple search on nairaland will reveal many threads dedicated to this topic.


I was going to post articles about the salary claims and counter-claims (with proof attached), but I was banned when I posted them on the other thread.

(Nigerians! SMH).

Saminu Turaki

http://www.leadership.ng/nga/articles/1256/2011/07/01/efcc_re-arraigns_saminu_turaki_over_n36b_fraud.html


Hassan Lawal
http://www.naijapals.com/modules/naijapals/nigeria/topic,70206.0.html

Dr. Mohammed Shata and
Alhaji Hussaini Akwanga.
http://www.nigerianmuse.com/important_documents/?u=ID_corruption_saga.htm


Joshua Dariye
http://www.dawodu.com/dariye2.htm

Abdullahi Adamu
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullahi_Adamu

To name a few.

A cataclysm of epic proportions has befallen Germania. Autoschediastic, it is. Ever so surreal. Have to incessantly pinch out. I have suffered a League long bouts of abuse, affronts and slurs from our under achieving neighbors. A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi. - Hon. Obahaigbon commenting on Chelsea win and his love for anything Chelsea

Unfortunately the doctors still haven't understood what's happening. How come ASUU, which has gone on strike more times than NMA, still has the support of the people, while the NMA has lost support?

Advantages of State and Local Government Police.

1) Community police.

2) Quicker response to the needs of the police force.

3) Competition between police forces for the tag of best police force.

4) Ecology (the police will better react to the specific needs of the community, which might be different from the needs of other communities).


Disadvantages:

1) Misuse by politicians.

2) Lack of cooperation between different police forces.


I believe we should examine ways of maximising the advantages and minimising the disadvantages.

(Smh: wondering why she's responding to me, when I've told her I'm not interested in her never ending, looping arguments).

Progress involves seeking ways to minimise the negatives and maximise the positives.

The NCC, headed by Ernest Ndukwe, created the consumer parliament to ensure that consumers have a voice and can complain against service providers. It forced service providers to make refunds to consumers when quality of service declined, etc. These measures took care of the fears of the 1980s.

Similarly, provisions could be made in the laws setting up state police to ensure that current concerns are addressed. For example, a commission could be set up which would monitor and review the activities of state and local council police forces.

State and local police, like everything else, has its negatives and positives. Our goal at the moment should be to seek ways to minimise the negatives and maximise the positives.

(Smh. Argument with no substance. There is evidence, there is evidence, without citing the evidence).

It is because of this inevitability that we currently have state police (note: policemen do not necessarily have to be armed. We currently have unarmed state police).

Note: State and local government police would not be free to do whatever they want. Of course there would be limits on what they can do, what kind of arms they can bear, etc.

State and local government police, like private telecommunications companies and private electricity companies, is inevitable.

Some people fear misuse of state police in much the same way people were afraid of private telecoms and electricity companies in the 1980s. In the 1980s it was said that private telecoms and electricity companies would be a security risk. They would betray the country if there's a war. Operators would exploit the masses, etc. However, we've discovered that what's required to keep these companies in check is the right regulatory framework (Communications/electricity laws, NCC, The National Assembly, consumer parliament, etc). This is also true with local and state police. All that's required are the right laws (particularly constitutional provisions) and oversight by the National Assembly, the media and the people.