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Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 8:58am On May 24, 2012
It's a pity that we don't have enough civic awareness. I'd love to see patients and their relatives sue the Lagos State Government and the Lagos Doctors for criminal negligence.
Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 8:47am On May 24, 2012
I was taught that even though your cause may be right, the way you go about making your case/demand is also very important. I pity my siblings and friends who have been put in this situation by the NMA.

1) The fact is that doctors are overworked. People often by-pass the primary and secondary health care centres and go straight to the tertiary hospitals, thereby over working doctors there.


2) Doctors face a lot of pressure and psychological and emotional trauma because they deal with human lives. How easy is it to watch a human being die? It certainly isn't easy.

3) Doctors work for long hours without rest.

The working conditions of doctors in Lagos is similar to the working conditions of policemen.

1) Policemen work long shifts, because we do not have enough policemen.

2) Policemen watch their friends/colleagues (sometimes best friends and neighbours, who are godfather to their cHildren, etc) die and then have to go back on the job the next day (without counselling/psychological evaluation), knowing that they could be next.

3) Policemen know that they could be killed the next minute and their family might not receive anything from the government, instead, they would be thrown out of the barracks.

4) Policemen work with little or no equipment. They have to buy and sew their police uniforms, fuel their patrol vans, etc from their own pocket. They lack bullet-proof vests, etc.

However, I would not support a situation where policemen would go on the street, block traffic and shoot people as a means of protesting their poor work conditions.
Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 8:30am On May 24, 2012
naptu2: Re: Federal Doctors In Lagos Begin Solidarity Strike For Sacked Colleagues by naptu2: 9:17pm On May 19

Unfortunately the doctors still haven't understood what's happening. How come ASUU, which has gone on strike more times than NMA, still has the support of the people, while the NMA has lost support?
naptu2: Re: Federal Doctors In Lagos Begin Solidarity Strike For Sacked Colleagues by naptu2: 11:11am On May 20

1)When ASUU goes on strike they demand for better laboratories, libraries, etc. Of course they demand for better pay, but at the forefront of their demand is better labs, libraries, etc. The public can relate with this.

2) When members of the public ask questions and come up with contrary views, ASUU takes the time to explain the reasons for their agitation. ASUU does not insult members of the public.

3) Attempts to gain sympathy by talking about poor pay, etc will not succeed. Most Nigerian civil servants are poorly paid. They'll simply ask, "what makes you different?"


This is a democracy and in a democracy a good way to win your case is to get public opinion on your side. The NMA has certainly not done a good job in this regard. If they show love to the people, the people will love them back. How do you show love?

1) Go on strike, but allow some doctors to continue handling emergency cases. Use this as a publicity tool to show the people that, although you are suffering, you still care about them.

2) Expand your agitation. Yes, you want higher salaries, but that's not all you are agitating for. We want a universal medical insurance scheme, that'll raise money for the health sector and make it easier to handle emergency cases. We want better equipments, etc. This will convince the public that you are not just thinking about yourself, but you have their interests at heart.


3) Conduct research (ASUU is very good at this). You want higher salaries, but the government is complaining that your salaries gulp 60% of recurrent expenditure. Demonstrate, with facts and figures, that the government can afford the increase and that it has no excuse.

4) NMA has allowed the government to give it the reputation of a very troublesome organisation. To avoid this, the NMA should have insisted on getting everything it wanted at a go. Repeat strikes make you look troublesome. The NMA should also meet with trade unions/associations of other health workers and sort out the problem of disparity in salaries.

5) Hold regular press conferences, so that the public will hear your side of the story.


Lastly, the issue of salaries of political office holders has been discussed many times. A simple search on nairaland will reveal many threads dedicated to this topic.
naptu2: The Telegraph

A doctors’ strike would betray their patients.

By Sarah Wollaston

Last Updated: 9:36PM BST 15/05/2012

The BMA is being unrealistic in opposing reasonable increases in pension contributions.

This week, the British Medical Association is trying to persuade doctors to vote in favour of strike action – the first such action since 1975. In doing so, the BMA proves yet again how out of touch it has become with the interests of patients and doctors alike.

When I joined the BMA after qualifying as a doctor in 1986, I was unaware that it was a union. I had assumed that it was a professional organisation supporting standards and education. And like most doctors, I joined mainly for a free copy of the weekly British Medical Journal, which at that time was the only way to find out what jobs were available.

Now, in a “Pension Ballot Special”, a BMA newsletter tells members that the association has no choice but to vote on industrial action for a “fairer” approach. It splashes on the 14.5 per cent that, crucially, only the highest-paid doctors will have to contribute towards their pensions. It claims, misleadingly, that no patients would be harmed by industrial action.

The BMA tries to persuade GPs that they could open for their usual hours during industrial action but not carry out any pre-booked or routine appointments, or issue any repeat prescriptions. Likewise, hospital colleagues are invited to turn up and make decisions about what is or is not an emergency. The results would not only be farcical but dangerous: doctors would find themselves facing an exasperated and irritated public. If that sounds unreasonable, well, the BMA industrial relations officer will be on hand to give guidance. He or she can expect to be very busy. The public is unlikely to have much sympathy.

Thirty years ago it was different. Doctors were relatively overworked and underpaid, but their vocation and professionalism commanded public respect. Then, thanks to a spectacularly mishandled negotiation by Labour in the 1990s, the much-needed investment in the health services went towards large pay rises, hand in hand with a reduced service to the public. GPs ditched out-of-hours work and Saturday surgeries because ministers misjudged the relative value of payments to doctors for these services. In other words, they failed to ensure that patients’ needs were paramount.

Labour also waved through the European Working Time Directive, which undermined continuity of care and, if anything, worsened working conditions and training for junior doctors. Assuming that all consultants were on the golf course or seeing private patients, the Government insisted that they should be paid only for the time they spent on NHS work. It should have come as no surprise that it ended up paying even more because of unpaid time that consultants were previously giving to the service for free.

A decade later, doctors are well paid and few GPs work Saturdays or nights; their out-of-hours work has largely been delegated to others and continuity of care has been eroded. The public are simply not going to feel sorry for striking doctors who earn more than £100,000 per year, sometimes for a four-day week.

To put the issue into perspective, doctors earning more than £120,000 pay 8.4 per cent of that into their pension pot. This would eventually rise to 14.4 per cent, but for those on a salary of £45,000, contributions would rise to just 9.3 per cent, an extra 1.4 per cent after tax relief. To get an equivalent pension in the private sector would require about a third of the same salaries – and doctors are living about 10 years longer than they did in the 1970s.

The rest of the country has woken up to the reality of pension costs – and we may soon witness what happens to a country like Greece, which has failed to do so. No government wants to pick a fight over public sector pensions, but to ignore demographic and financial realities would dump the burden on the next generation. Why should our children pick up the tab?

I hope doctors will follow at least one aspect of the BMA’s advice: “Whatever your views, it’s vital you vote.”

I’m often asked what the difference is between being a GP and an MP. One wag put it like this: “About £40,000 a year.” I would add that, as an MP, I now pay 13.75 per cent towards my pension, and work evenings and many Saturdays. Of course, one of the main differences is the way people feel about you. I hadn’t realised how much people respected doctors until I entered Parliament. That support matters, and a vote for strike action over pensions is a sure way to lose it.

Perhaps every doctor should ask a friend in the private sector how much pension they will receive, and how much they must contribute. They might be in for a shock. The BMA have made the wrong call; this is an unnecessary strike that would not be victimless. I sincerely hope that doctors will vote to put their patients first.

Dr Sarah Wollaston is Conservative MP for Totnes and a former GP

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9267399/A-doctors-strike-would-betray-their-patients.html
Politics › Re: Lawmakers Reject Jonathan’s Cassava Bread by naptu2: 8:14am On May 24, 2012
Nigerians consume a lot of flour products (bread, cakes, etc). The wheat/flour is imported. The government realised that Nigeria loses a lot of money due to importation of wheat/flour.

During the Babangida administration the government tried to encourage growing of wheat in Plateau state (wheat grows in colder climates. The climate in Plateau state is suitable for wheat cultivation). However, the project eventually failed because they could not cultivate enough wheat to meet demand for wheat in Nigeria.


It was discovered that Nigeria is the largest producer of cassava in the world, but we don't make much money from cassava. The Obasanjo Administration decided to encourage the sale/use of cassava as a means of increasing non-oil revenue. The ministry of agriculture came up with a lot of cassava products (including animal feed and cassava bread). The administration liked the idea of cassava bread and mandated that flour millers and bakers use a percentage of cassava in their products. Many people kicked against the idea and some suggested that the administration adopted that policy because President Obasanjo intended to go into cassava cultivation via his Obasanjo farms.


My view: I don't believe that the government should force anyone to make/eat cassava bread. Doing this would most likely negatively affect quality.

What the government should do is (1) Provide incentives to local producers of flour (whether with cassava flour or Plateau wheat flour). These incentives could be in the form of tax breaks, grants, etc.

2) Encourage research into the production of cassava bread. If it's cheaper and of a better quality, people would naturally prefer it and it could subsequently be exported. I don't believe forcing people is the answer.

3) Import tax on imported flour.
Politics › Re: Lawmakers Reject Jonathan’s Cassava Bread by naptu2: 6:55am On May 24, 2012
This idea of mandating bakers to produce cassava bread was developed by the Obasanjo administration when it was discovered that Nigeria is the largest producer of cassava in the world, but we don't make much money from it. The idea was part of something called the "cassava master plan".
Politics › Re: IG: Constables To Earn N50000 by naptu2: 4:12pm On May 23, 2012
Good move. Other measures, such a psychological evaluation (after death of colleague, or after killing someone) and shorter shifts need to be implemented.
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Politics › Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by naptu2: 8:28am On May 23, 2012
Politics › Re: Goodluck Jonathan Features On Vogue Magazine Italia by naptu2: 5:08am On May 23, 2012
That's near the entrance to the council chambers at Aso Rock. This is where the president usually takes photographs with visiting dignitaries.
Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 8:29pm On May 22, 2012
texazzpete: Please learn to read your post before you post it. The MP cannot dredge up sympathy for doctors to strike when they earn more than 100000 pounds per year

Do I need to tell you how much 100000 pounds in Nigerian money is? Do you think any medical doctor earning half of that in Nigeria will have cause to grumble?

Let the UK Government slash doctors salaries to 30000 pounds per year and see how the doctors will take it.
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Teachers in Lagos earn the same salary as their counterparts in the UK. Accountants in Lagos earn the same salary as accountants in the UK. A loaf of bread costs the same in the UK and Nigeria.
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The Telegraph

A doctors’ strike would betray their patients.

By Sarah Wollaston

Last Updated: 9:36PM BST 15/05/2012

The BMA is being unrealistic in opposing reasonable increases in pension contributions.

This week, the British Medical Association is trying to persuade doctors to vote in favour of strike action – the first such action since 1975. In doing so, the BMA proves yet again how out of touch it has become with the interests of patients and doctors alike.

When I joined the BMA after qualifying as a doctor in 1986, I was unaware that it was a union. I had assumed that it was a professional organisation supporting standards and education. And like most doctors, I joined mainly for a free copy of the weekly British Medical Journal, which at that time was the only way to find out what jobs were available.

Now, in a “Pension Ballot Special”, a BMA newsletter tells members that the association has no choice but to vote on industrial action for a “fairer” approach. It splashes on the 14.5 per cent that, crucially, only the highest-paid doctors will have to contribute towards their pensions. It claims, misleadingly, that no patients would be harmed by industrial action.

The BMA tries to persuade GPs that they could open for their usual hours during industrial action but not carry out any pre-booked or routine appointments, or issue any repeat prescriptions. Likewise, hospital colleagues are invited to turn up and make decisions about what is or is not an emergency. The results would not only be farcical but dangerous: doctors would find themselves facing an exasperated and irritated public. If that sounds unreasonable, well, the BMA industrial relations officer will be on hand to give guidance. He or she can expect to be very busy. The public is unlikely to have much sympathy.

Thirty years ago it was different. Doctors were relatively overworked and underpaid, but their vocation and professionalism commanded public respect. Then, thanks to a spectacularly mishandled negotiation by Labour in the 1990s, the much-needed investment in the health services went towards large pay rises, hand in hand with a reduced service to the public. GPs ditched out-of-hours work and Saturday surgeries because ministers misjudged the relative value of payments to doctors for these services. In other words, they failed to ensure that patients’ needs were paramount.

Labour also waved through the European Working Time Directive, which undermined continuity of care and, if anything, worsened working conditions and training for junior doctors. Assuming that all consultants were on the golf course or seeing private patients, the Government insisted that they should be paid only for the time they spent on NHS work. It should have come as no surprise that it ended up paying even more because of unpaid time that consultants were previously giving to the service for free.

A decade later, doctors are well paid and few GPs work Saturdays or nights; their out-of-hours work has largely been delegated to others and continuity of care has been eroded. The public are simply not going to feel sorry for striking doctors who earn more than £100,000 per year, sometimes for a four-day week.

To put the issue into perspective, doctors earning more than £120,000 pay 8.4 per cent of that into their pension pot. This would eventually rise to 14.4 per cent, but for those on a salary of £45,000, contributions would rise to just 9.3 per cent, an extra 1.4 per cent after tax relief. To get an equivalent pension in the private sector would require about a third of the same salaries – and doctors are living about 10 years longer than they did in the 1970s.

The rest of the country has woken up to the reality of pension costs – and we may soon witness what happens to a country like Greece, which has failed to do so. No government wants to pick a fight over public sector pensions, but to ignore demographic and financial realities would dump the burden on the next generation. Why should our children pick up the tab?

I hope doctors will follow at least one aspect of the BMA’s advice: “Whatever your views, it’s vital you vote.”

I’m often asked what the difference is between being a GP and an MP. One wag put it like this: “About £40,000 a year.” I would add that, as an MP, I now pay 13.75 per cent towards my pension, and work evenings and many Saturdays. Of course, one of the main differences is the way people feel about you. I hadn’t realised how much people respected doctors until I entered Parliament. That support matters, and a vote for strike action over pensions is a sure way to lose it.

Perhaps every doctor should ask a friend in the private sector how much pension they will receive, and how much they must contribute. They might be in for a shock. The BMA have made the wrong call; this is an unnecessary strike that would not be victimless. I sincerely hope that doctors will vote to put their patients first.

Dr Sarah Wollaston is Conservative MP for Totnes and a former GP

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9267399/A-doctors-strike-would-betray-their-patients.html
Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 1:39pm On May 22, 2012
The Telegraph

A doctors’ strike would betray their patients.

By Sarah Wollaston

Last Updated: 9:36PM BST 15/05/2012

The BMA is being unrealistic in opposing reasonable increases in pension contributions.

This week, the British Medical Association is trying to persuade doctors to vote in favour of strike action – the first such action since 1975. In doing so, the BMA proves yet again how out of touch it has become with the interests of patients and doctors alike.

When I joined the BMA after qualifying as a doctor in 1986, I was unaware that it was a union. I had assumed that it was a professional organisation supporting standards and education. And like most doctors, I joined mainly for a free copy of the weekly British Medical Journal, which at that time was the only way to find out what jobs were available.

Now, in a “Pension Ballot Special”, a BMA newsletter tells members that the association has no choice but to vote on industrial action for a “fairer” approach. It splashes on the 14.5 per cent that, crucially, only the highest-paid doctors will have to contribute towards their pensions. It claims, misleadingly, that no patients would be harmed by industrial action.

The BMA tries to persuade GPs that they could open for their usual hours during industrial action but not carry out any pre-booked or routine appointments, or issue any repeat prescriptions. Likewise, hospital colleagues are invited to turn up and make decisions about what is or is not an emergency. The results would not only be farcical but dangerous: doctors would find themselves facing an exasperated and irritated public. If that sounds unreasonable, well, the BMA industrial relations officer will be on hand to give guidance. He or she can expect to be very busy. The public is unlikely to have much sympathy.

Thirty years ago it was different. Doctors were relatively overworked and underpaid, but their vocation and professionalism commanded public respect. Then, thanks to a spectacularly mishandled negotiation by Labour in the 1990s, the much-needed investment in the health services went towards large pay rises, hand in hand with a reduced service to the public. GPs ditched out-of-hours work and Saturday surgeries because ministers misjudged the relative value of payments to doctors for these services. In other words, they failed to ensure that patients’ needs were paramount.

Labour also waved through the European Working Time Directive, which undermined continuity of care and, if anything, worsened working conditions and training for junior doctors. Assuming that all consultants were on the golf course or seeing private patients, the Government insisted that they should be paid only for the time they spent on NHS work. It should have come as no surprise that it ended up paying even more because of unpaid time that consultants were previously giving to the service for free.

A decade later, doctors are well paid and few GPs work Saturdays or nights; their out-of-hours work has largely been delegated to others and continuity of care has been eroded. The public are simply not going to feel sorry for striking doctors who earn more than £100,000 per year, sometimes for a four-day week.

To put the issue into perspective, doctors earning more than £120,000 pay 8.4 per cent of that into their pension pot. This would eventually rise to 14.4 per cent, but for those on a salary of £45,000, contributions would rise to just 9.3 per cent, an extra 1.4 per cent after tax relief. To get an equivalent pension in the private sector would require about a third of the same salaries – and doctors are living about 10 years longer than they did in the 1970s.

The rest of the country has woken up to the reality of pension costs – and we may soon witness what happens to a country like Greece, which has failed to do so. No government wants to pick a fight over public sector pensions, but to ignore demographic and financial realities would dump the burden on the next generation. Why should our children pick up the tab?

I hope doctors will follow at least one aspect of the BMA’s advice: “Whatever your views, it’s vital you vote.”

I’m often asked what the difference is between being a GP and an MP. One wag put it like this: “About £40,000 a year.” I would add that, as an MP, I now pay 13.75 per cent towards my pension, and work evenings and many Saturdays. Of course, one of the main differences is the way people feel about you. I hadn’t realised how much people respected doctors until I entered Parliament. That support matters, and a vote for strike action over pensions is a sure way to lose it.

Perhaps every doctor should ask a friend in the private sector how much pension they will receive, and how much they must contribute. They might be in for a shock. The BMA have made the wrong call; this is an unnecessary strike that would not be victimless. I sincerely hope that doctors will vote to put their patients first.

Dr Sarah Wollaston is Conservative MP for Totnes and a former GP

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9267399/A-doctors-strike-would-betray-their-patients.html
Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 1:36pm On May 22, 2012
allycat: Please google doctors strike and see that doctors in the Uk are voting wether or not to go on industrial action.
Thanks very much for that. Now let's compare and see what I mean by strike with love.
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Health › Re: Sacked Lagos State Doctors Lobby To Be Reinstated by naptu2: 11:28am On May 22, 2012
Anytime someone talks about doctor's salary they are accused of being jealous and are insulted. Yet, during this strike, I've heard doctors talk about salaries of lawyers, judges, senators, governors, etc. Why did they sign up to be doctors? Why didn't they choose to become lawyers, judges and senators?

They should have known the kind of profession they were signing up for.
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Politics › Re: Lagos Doctors Views by naptu2: 2:45pm On May 21, 2012
I agree. I was actually searching for a more recent payslip when I stumbled on that one. The doctors say the state government published fake salaries. However, they've not shown us proof of their claim. Anytime I ask, I get insults in return.
Politics › Re: Man Arrested At Radio House With Grenades & Live Ammo by naptu2: 2:42pm On May 21, 2012
I heard on Rhythm FM (2 o'clock news) that he was caught with 3 tear-gas canisters and ammunition. I also heard that suicide bombers were arrested at police headquarters, Louis Edet House.
Politics › Re: Lagos Doctors Views by naptu2: 2:30pm On May 21, 2012
I'm not countering anything. I posted both stories so that people can hear from both sides of the argument and get a feel of the historical background.

My view is that the strike will collapse sooner or later and I blame the leadership of the NMA for that.

Although I'm happy that it'll put a check on the powers of the unions, but nobody gains from this strike. We all lose.
Celebrities › Re: Timaya Reveals He's A Dad Of A Cute Baby Girl by naptu2: 1:34pm On May 21, 2012
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Skye Bank's Managing Director's Wife Picking Her Nose by naptu2: 12:40pm On May 21, 2012
belabela: Nobody thinks about her in Europe. And her's wasnt as bad a one of the coaches during the world cup in south Africa who picked his nose and ate it. You guys should get a life.
German coach Joaquim Lowe has been seen on a number of occasions picking his nose. The most famous/infamous episode occurred during the world cup, South Africa 2010, when he mined for gold in his nose and ate the contents.

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