lexy2014: It's not a question of right or wrong. Whether it is right or wrong doesn't concern me as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights.
Which "abundance of evidence" are you referring to? So shettima shaking women is now the "abundance of evidence"?
This why I asked you if you have been living in Guatamala or Dominican republic. Not shaking the opposite sex iis a doctrine in Islam. The fact that you saw shettima, buhari or Atiku doing it doesn't change the fact that it is a doctrine hence one of the screenshots I shared with u except u didn't read it. Shaking the opposite sex in Islam is Haram and it is well known. You the only one who doesn't seem to know.
You talking about Shettima and am talking from my own personal experience. And I saw someone also share with u his own personal experience. My question is have u ever experienced a Muslim of the opposite gender who doesn't shake hands? I don't think so.
For the Obasanjo case, it is very simple and only corroborates one of d screenshots I shared and the YouTube video. Since you haven't experienced it, you might not understand how awkward it is to initiate a handshake with a lady and then your hand is left hanging in d air because shaking you is Haram.
This i believe has been Obasanjos experience hence him being shy shaking Muslim women.
As a president, he can only initiate handshakes. What if he initiated a handshake in public with a Muslim woman only for her to refuse? Isn't it better to avoid the embarrassment based on part experience?
I also don't initiate handshakes with Muslim women based on my own experiences. I just stand, say hi and keep my hands to myself. Respect their space and save myself the embarrassment
Kai! All of this for something that is very simple. Let me remind of what you posted. You quoted me and posted this.
You didn't say, "I thought Muslim men shouldn't shake women", you didn't say, "Some Muslim men don't shake women", you said, "I thought Muslim men don't shake women"?
Many Muslim men do shake women and there is an abundance of evidence that they do and those pictures that I have been posting are evidence that many Muslim men do shake women.
Kukutenla: I'm referring to you. Your stinking attempt to link Obi's take on insecurity with IPOB in his region. He has a much right as anyone else to speak on any matter that catches his fancy whether it's occurring in his region or not. What you should be concerned about is what the govt's response is.
OK, it is quite clear that you should not be taken seriously. First you made claims that I said things that I did not say and now you are coming up with this garbage. ARE YOU HALLUCINATING?? Can you show me where I said all these things?? WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT HE HAS NO RIGHT TO COMMENT ON WHATEVER??
Didn't I post his comments?? Would I have done so if I thought he had no right to comment??
In fact, you shouldn't be taken seriously. I thought you made a mistake, that's why I responded, but now I can see that you do not deserve a response.
I hope you find a cure for whatever is bothering you.
Kukutenla: I don't get your point. Over 25 people were killed between Plateau and Benue in the last two weeks. You mean he should not say anything about that because of IPOB propaganda? You guys should at least be smart with your tackles
Are you referring to me or someone else? What point?
gidgiddy: If what this one has to say does nit include Biafra or IPOB, he wont be seen on Nairaland
This one has started lying early in the morning again. A lie that has been exposed many times. Anybody that checks my profile can see that I post about many things including Ipob and I will continue to do so.
He only appears when it is time to defend terrorists and he cannot pretend because anybody that checks his profile will see that I am right.
Well then it's obviously wrong. You can say some Muslims do not shake hands with women, but there is abundant evidence that many Muslims shake hands with women (Kashim Shettima has been doing so since he was a governor).
By the way, this has nothing to do with Dominican Republic or Guatemala. We are in Nigeria and so is Kashim Shettima.
Olusegun Obasanjo visited Kaduna. Governor El-Rufai introduced him to the deputy governor. He did not shake her hand. Then Governor El-Rufai insisted, "Shake her now!" and Obasanjo shook her hand.
naptu2: Aha! This is a video that illustrates what I wrote last year. President Olusegun Obasanjo almost never shakes hands with a northern woman. That was his exact attitude when he was president. I noticed it, but nobody complained about it.
So why were so many people complaining about President Buhari even though Buhari was not half as fanatical about it as Obasanjo. President Buhari shook hands with northern women, but Obasanjo never did it unless (as is the case in this video) he is forced to do it.
President Obasanjo visited Kaduna in 2019 and he did not shake hands with the deputy governor until he was told to do so.
(I'm going to quote my old post about this subject).
naptu2: Much ado about handshakes (this is another old post that has been on my mind for years).
My British cousins were recently arguing over the question of who Boris Johnson shook hands with and who he didn’t shake hands with and that reminded me of an old post that I wanted to make but couldn’t because of lack of time.
President Buhari swore in new ministers a few months after he was inaugurated and some people noticed that he did not shake hands with some of the female ministers and they decided that he did not shake the female ministers’ hands because he was a religious extremist. They held this up as evidence that Buhari was going to “Islamise Nigeria” and declare Sharia law across the country.
I knew that their position was total nonsense because I knew that Buhari had shaken hands with women in the past, but more importantly, I knew why he didn’t shake hands with the female ministers (I’ve been there before).
I’m shocked that nobody has stated the real reason that he did not shake hands with the female ministers.
My experience.
A lot of people in positions of authority came to my house when I was a kid and I shook hands with all of them. Of course I also bowed to them, but I shook hands with all of them. I also shook hands with the elderly people that came to my house, including my grandmother.
However, there were certain encounters that stuck in my mind. I remember a time that a new official was appointed to a certain position. My neighbour’s family was very influential in the institution that the official had just been appointed to head and so he paid a courtesy visit to their house and I was in their house on that day. They introduced me to him as **** son. He looked happy to see me, but something happened that stuck in my mind. I extended my hand for a handshake and there was a momentary look of surprise on his face. It lasted for less than half a second, but I noticed it. He said, “You want to shake the ****” (he mentioned his new title) and then he shook my hand.
There was another encounter that I remember. It was kind of a family event. I got to a certain house and the woman of the house was greeting everybody at the door. I bowed and shook hands with her as I greeted her. I could see a look of absolute shock on her face as I shook hands with her. Much later, my sister whispered to me, “Did you see how shocked she looked when you shook hands with her”?
You see, in Yoruba culture, it is quite unusual for a much younger person to shake hands with a much older person. The younger person is expected to prostrate, stoop, bow, kneel or curtsey. The younger person will only shake the older person’s hand if the older person extends his hand for a handshake.
Similarly, it is unusual for a person in a much lower position in an organisation to shake hands with someone in a much higher positions/someone in a position of authority except if the person in a higher position extends his hand for a handshake.
Many Muslim women do not shake hands with men that are not related to them. This can be awkward for a man who extends his hand to shake a woman. Therefore, many men do not extend their hands for a handshake except the woman extends her hand first.
Think about it the way that you would think about a hug. Would you hug a woman that you’ve just met for the first time? Would you hug a woman that you’ve just met for the first time if she extends her hands for a hug? You would probably respect the woman’s space and only hug her if she extends her hands for a hug, right?
Read this https://medium.com/@hana.jafar09/why-you-should-ask-before-hugging-someone-7825f503ac06
Obasanjo
I was shocked when there was a furore about whether President Buhari shook hands with women, because President Olusegun Obasanjo had observed this practice in a very extreme manner and yet nobody complained.
I noticed that President Olusegun Obasanjo never shook hands with women who wore hijabs, even when the women extended their hands for a handshake. I noticed this for the first time during a national honours award ceremony. An honouree extended her hand for a handshake, but President Obasanjo clasped both of his hands together in front of his chest, instead of shaking hands with her. I later noticed that he did this to any woman that either wore a hijab or was from the far north, even if the woman was Christian and even if the woman extended her hand for a handshake. Yet nobody complained.
Buhari New ministers were inaugurated in 2015 and an incident during the inauguration ceremony led to the ridiculous claim that President Buhari does not shake hands with women.
The protocol was that, after being sworn in, the minister would sign the register and then shake hands with President Buhari while smiling for the camera. It was Kemi Adeosun’s turn to shake hands with Buhari. Being a Yoruba woman, she waited for President Buhari, who is older and in a higher position of authority, to extend his hand for a handshake. President Buhari, being a northern muslim, waited for Kemi Adeosun, who is a woman, to extend her hand for a handshake. Therefore, because neither of them extended their hand first, there was no handshake.
People picked up on this and said that President Buhari does not shake hands with women and then it became a self-fulfilling prophesy. Other women, because they had heard that Buhari did not shake hands with women, did not extend their hands for a handshake when they met him and therefore, the rumours that Buhari did not shake hands with women continued.
Some people said that "Buhari's refusal to shake hands with women was proof that he was a religious extremist, a bigot and that he wanted to Islamise Nigeria".
I knew that this was just complete nonsense. How did I know? The musician, Onyeka Onwenu was a supporter of President Goodluck Jonathan and he appointed her to head an agency (I’ve forgotten the name of the agency). The members of the board of the agency went to meet and congratulate President Buhari soon after he was sworn in. This was before ministers were inaugurated. President Buhari shook hands with Onyeka Onwenu at that event.
Besides, I had seen Buhari shake hands with women when he was a military head of state in the mid-1980s.
The rising insecurity in the country leading to mindless bloodletting, particularly in the North Central zone of the country, and the continued disruption of business and social activities in the South East are all becoming very worrisome.
The violent attacks in the North Central states of Benue and Plateau lately took a new twist with high records of kidnapping, arson, and loss of human lives. According to the 1st Quarter Mass Atrocities Casualty Tracking Report, over 1230 Nigerians were killed,79 of them security operatives, with over 600 abductions in the first quarter of this year alone.
With what has been happening in the North Central and Zamfara state lately the figure as of today will be mind-boggling even far more than the deaths recorded in Russia/Ukraine ongoing carnage. It’s unacceptable that hundreds of innocent lives will continue to be wasted in Nigeria needlessly through communal clashes, bandits, and kidnapping activities. The situation in the Mangu Local Government Area of Plateau states has raised a lot of anxiety because of the number of lives and properties lost with very little resistance from security operatives.
Also disturbing is the continued disruption of business and social activities in the South East region over the Sit-at-Home directive purported to be coming from the Indigenous Peoples of Biafra, IPOB, when the body has publicly denied issuing such directive. What is going on in the South East therefore is essentially a criminal activity that must be nipped in the bud, with all hands being on deck, security agencies, and the people alike.
The South East Governors are to be commended for their renewed efforts at curbing this menace but there is a need to be more strategic and intelligence-driven in our approach to reducing the suffering of innocent people.
Security agencies should take necessary and quick steps to arrest the ugly incidents because the country cannot just be spilling the blood of innocent citizens. We as a people through our various governments should up our value for human lives in the way and manner we respond to issues that touch lives. The implications of an insecure environment for development are far-reaching because no investor will consider going to an area where their resources will not be safe and secured.
Therefore, I will like to urge critical stakeholders in these areas, traditional, Christian, and Muslim leaders to continue pushing for peace among their people in the way and manner they conduct themselves.
The various governments at all levels should also take deliberate steps to address the issue of poverty and youth unemployment because the provision of stomach infrastructure is the surer way to tackle insecurity.
Also, urgent steps should be taken consciously and intentionally to ameliorate the hardship of the people. -PO
President Bola Ahmed Tinubu receives in Audience, the state governors of the class of 1999 led by the chairman of the class and former governor of Edo State , Sir Lucky Igbinedion , the secretary and Former Governor of Ekiti State , H.E Niyi Adebayo and 15 others.
President Bola Ahmed Tinubu and the Secretary to the Government of the Federation, H.E George Akume were also members of the 1999 class of Executive Governors.
1999 Governors who attended include
Sir Lucky Igbinedion (Edo) Chief Niyi Adebayo (Ekiti) Orji Uzor Kalu (Abia) Obong Victor Attah (Akwa Ibom) Adamu Muazu ( Bauchi) Donald Duke (Cross River) James Ibori (Delta) Sam Egwu (Ebonyi) Chimaroke Nnamani (Enugu) Ibrahim Saminu Turaki ( Jigawa) Adamu Aliero (Kebbi State) Olusegun Osoba (Ogun) Bisi Akande ( Osun ) Joshua Dariye (Plateau) Attahiru Bafarawa (Sokoto) Ahmad Sani Yerima (Zamfara) Rev Jolly Nyame (Taraba State )
President Bola Ahmed Tinubu receives in Audience, the state governors of the class of 1999 led by the chairman of the class and former governor of Edo State , Sir Lucky Igbinedion , the secretary and Former Governor of Ekiti State , H.E Niyi Adebayo and 15 others. pic.twitter.com/NMvGcal98F
President Bola Tinubu is currently meeting with “The class of 1999 governors” at the presidential villa, Abuja.
The former governors in attendance include James Ibori ( Delta state); Donald Duke (Cross River); Niyi Adebayo (Ekiti); Lucky Igbinedion(Edo); Orji Uzor Kalu( Abia ) and Sam Egwu (Ebonyi).
Others are Chimaroke Nnamani (Enugu); Ibrahim Saminu Turaki (Jigawa); Adamu Muazu (Bauchi); Obong Victor Attah (Akwa Ibom)’ Olusegun Osoba (Ogun); Bisi Akande (Osun); Ahmad Yerima (Zamfara); Jolly Nyame (Taraba); Attahiru Bafarawa (Sokoto) and Joshua Dariye (Plateau).
At the time of reporting, the agenda of the meeting was not known.
In 1999, Tinubu and the former governors in the meeting were elected when Nigeria returned to democracy from military rule.
Tinubu was the governor of Lagos from 1999 to 2007.
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