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Hairyrapunzel:
[s]See someone that wakes up daily wishing people (non jws) will be killed so he will live forever on earth calling it genuine happiness. Smh

See someone that is very knowledgeable wishing people like me get killed because we have refused to:

1. pay allegiance to the publishing company called watchtower organisation,

2. unquestionably obey gb (8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organisational direction)

3 accept that these men are the only channel of communication between God and man today

All these because these men (gb) say so.


I love ignorance then. I can't be this foolish.

Last last you will die waiting for your jehovah to come slaughter us. You will still end up dying disappointed just like your founding fathers.

Na cycle. Cycle of imaginary event[/s]

Done with you for tonight, continue to use your gibberish template/script to massage your bruised ego. Mr Atheist.

Hairyrapunzel:
Pained ke? When you are the person that will die disappointed that your jehovah didn’t kill me so that you will inherit my properties and live forever on earth. Last last you will still die while waiting for your all loving jehovah to slaughter non jws.


It’s like you guys just think about destruction of non jws daily.

You must have anxiety disorder and depression waking up to the fact that we are still on earth.
Take heart you hear?

Me saying no jehovah will kill anyone is now tantamount to HATE?

You that says your jehovah will murder/kill/destroy/slaughter non jws because they didn’t unquestionably obey gb and accept them as the only channel of communication between God and man today so jws can live forever on earth is now equivalent to Love right?

I no fit laugh this night

No, laugh na, as you if you can afford to make a genuine one.

Genuine happiness is not easy to find, but exist among people who worship the true God, being an atheist takes you far from it. Continue to roll in your ignorance and live your life.
Don't expect me to think of you and what becomes of you later in life. You are not that important to me.

freshboi88:
So the righteous that have died where r they ?

You want to pretend that you don't know the answer a JW will give. Pls shift, no time for you here

Hairyrapunzel:
Kpele since your jehovah doesn’t need any one to validates the way he will rid the world of wicked people that means your teaching that your jehovah will slaughter/murder/kill/destroy/ commit genocide against wicked/worldly/pagans/evil/unrighteous people aka non jws because they did not unquestionably obey the governing body (8 old imperfect, uninspired, fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction) and accept that they are the only channel of communication between God and man today so jws can inherit earth and properties of non jws is A BIG FAT LIE DOMICILED ONLY INSIDE YOUR HEAD AND WATCHTOWER MAGAZINES.

Your distorted thought of The truth and reality on this platform is inconsequential to us so quit trying to deny it. It is no use trying to imagine a situation that will never happen.

Your founding fathers preached the same thing and they died disappointed. You will still die disappointed because it will never happen.

ITS A CYCLE. CYCLE OF AN IMAGINARY EVENT.
#truth

Eyah, you must be really pained o. No need trying to respond again to your kind. I know your antecedents on this platform as your previous posts reveal.
Just go and rest for today and stop trying to do what you can't do.
Satan who is the original instigator of this hate has failed and is stilling failing woefully, talkless of you. No hope.

justli:
I worship in a small church not too far from my street.

I worship there because I like the pastor's understanding of the word of God and he has been a good spiritual guide.

Now I see, sha don't come back here later to tell us how you left your small church, formed yours or refused to attend church again because you probed and your pastor deviates from the Bible or disappoints you.


The concept of belonging to a global brotherhood like that of Jehovah's Witnesses that you can trust with your life and be convinced that these are the people who are doing God's will on earth, will be difficult for you grasp at this stage unless you get to associate with them someday. Wonder why it is so difficult for ex Jws to join another Church if they decide to leave? They rather stay at home and become whatever they choose to be because no place can compare to what they just lost, a very painful experience for them.
Jehovah's Witnesses has a rich history and a precious spiritual heritage not shared by others religious groups I know. Satan knows this and he will do whatever he can to tarnish the image of this "unique" group but he can''t. Look at this thread for example and see the attention got, compare it to other religious thread today. People are fascinated by this group and want to comment about them positively or otherwise as if their lives depends on doing that.

You keep asking me to probe JW for untruths, for what motive? so I can disassociate? yet no one can give a good alternative to Jehovah's Organization or can you? Unless you want to lie to yourself. Others keep trying and failing.Yet every passing day, I see convincing evidence on why I should continue to keep my JW identity.

No one will force you to become a JW, They are not begging for members. They are only eager to show you the way God approves and help you to cultivate that relationship with God, the way he wants it to be, anything negative comment you make or read here does not stop the organization in anyway because it is backed by the most powerful force in the universe, God's holy spirit.

justli:
Yes. I grew up in an Orthodox Church. But once it was time for me to understand my faith and not what I was taught as a kid, I probed it with prayers

God revealed the truth to me

If one seeks knowledge, he is rich in mercy he will help us find the truth.

Even though I liked the church I grew up in, I have to see clearly that a lot of the church's traditions were not biblical.

It was hard, but one message stood out: we don't owe allegiance to men and their traditions we should only be guided by the word of God.
And if you are wise you have to be able to discern a false religion.

Interesting, so where do you worship now?

justli:
Like I said before, you're afraid to probe your faith. Why? Because you don't want to open the cane of worm. Jw is a cult group, shrouded in secrecy.
They dismember you as soon as you begin to ask questions.
But I wouldn't blame you, the brain washing is deep.

Just like the guy I was engaging up there,
Even having shown him where Jesus was telling the people to feel his flesh.

Even when Jesus was telling them that spirits don't have flesh and bones, meaning he is here with them not as a spirit, the brainwashed mofo is still asking me what then did Jesus sacrificed.

He wants me to tell him that the sacrifice was the cleansing blood of Jesus.

Have you finished probing your own religion? or there is no need to, because their can of worms are clearly visible, open for all to see. No detective work need.

Uncle, As a Witness of Jehovah, I am beyond convinced that Jehovah's Witnesses practice true worship and they are the only christian group doing Jehovah's will today.

If you have a problem with that, kindly attend to it yourself since you have also resolved within yourself not to open your eyes to see the truth while you still can.

Hairyrapunzel:
So you believe your jehovah will come kill/slaughter/destroy/murder/commit the greatest genocide against non jws/pagans/wicked/worldly/evil/unrighteous people because they chose not to unquestionably obey 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organisation and reside in new York as the only channel of communication between God and man today?
So that you people will inherit earth and their properties abi?

Well, sorry to tell you that the only place it will ever happen is inside your head and your watchtower magazines.

You will end up waiting just like your founding fathers and die of disappointment like they did

Pele Hairyrapunzel, I guess you are an atheist because of how you expressed your thoughts above. Sounds very familiar. If you are religious then you need a lot of cane.
The Almighty God, Jehovah does not need you to validate the way he chooses to rid the earth of wicked people, you can take that up with him.
While you accuse him of an impending genocide, he is busy organizing the salvation of millions of people around the earth to survive and live forever while warning the wicked including you to change, so you don't experience that divine judgement. He did it before and would do it again finally for all time.
Your distorted thought of our loving heavenly father on this platform is inconsequential to his divine plan so quit trying to deny it. It is no use trying to fight a powerful unseen being like Jehovah.

tete7000:
If I follow your logic, nothing awaits me after death, I simply go out of existence, so you already contradict yourself. There is no punishment no pain. So tell me why should I bother following Jehovah witnessing when I know the worst punishment is that I go out of existence. No hell, no pain, no sorrow. Why do I need to stop enjoying my sins and repent self? To what end and for what purpose? I don't need your new heaven on earth.

Simple, If you willfully continue to practice sin, you end up the same way Adam and Eve did, they died, return to the dust, and they have no hope of returning to life to enjoy it forever in a paradise.

Think about that prospect. Everlasting life is a gift that God promises to obedient humans.

Wicked people will never enjoy that privilege after they die. Let them "enjoy" their sin for the few years they live whereas their their eternal future is not guaranteed.

The thought that all wicked people must suffer pain in hell fire while "living forever alive" is not based on the Bible.

Check how God has executed judgement on the wicked since the death of Adam and Eve, think about how he ended wicked people. Did he put them somewhere to suffer pain continuously while they still live?

You say you don't need the new heaven and new earth , okay, I wonder where you will stay after coming back to life after death, God will see no reason to bring you back to life in that case.

tete7000:
When you die, you will know who is confused between the two of us. Till then, I keep my finger crossed. I have met many of your people offline, I always trash their arguments and send them running. If you are interested meet me in person.

Have you also you thought of what likely awaits you after death? Don't you also think it will be terrible if you eventually discovered that you have believed a lie when it becomes too late and this group that you attacked and seems to be hated by many people, were saying the truth all along?
May that not be your lot. Humble yourselves and learn the truth from Jehovah's Witnesses, no time again.

I have met many of your people offline, I always trash their arguments and send them running.

Trash arguments offline indeed? We know your kind, always forming busy and uninterested when visited but who would gladly come online to argue and show false scriptural prowness on a jw thread.

tete7000:
I have told you that you are not Christians and your arguments supported it. After Jesus resurrection, he told his disciples in Acts 1:8 to go out and witness to him. If you guys won't do that you cannot claim to be Christians. Your are meant to follow as Christians the footsteps of the apostles but you won't, you place yourself on the same pedastal with Christ claiming to be imitating him while stripping him of his God head. Your beliefs are more related to Judaism, the old religion of the Jews, just that in your confusion you muddled it up with Christ teaching. You are therefore neither practicing Judaism or Christianity. You are of a different bloc, probably confused and trying very hard to spread your confusion across the globe. I feel so sad that many of you and the ones you succeeded to confuse will die and one day wake up from your grave to discover heaven and hell with pains and torments truly exist.... I am not ready to argue further.

No, you should have continued arguing further, I have read your previous posts including this one. Filled with confusion and lack of understanding. I can easily identify you as the usual church goer who thinks he knows the scriptures because he quoted some. You don't even know who the Witnesses are and why they are called christians yet you are waiting to start arguments with them on Nairaland.
The issue of the Trinity and the others you raised have been discussed on this forum countless times. If you need a fruitful discussion, engage Jehovah's Witnesses offline.

Nmezor:
Hmmmm, one church I can Neva attend even when invited. .. weird doctrines

Ok, we have heard you. Kindly pass

1Sharon:
Lool

I've noticed they tend to ignore ppl they find challenging

SMH
In your mind you think he is challenging because he comes online to rant at JWs, just be like him you hear...

1Sharon:
What's stopping you from taking your life?

Have you ever taken medication before?

Worn a seatbelt while driving?

Whosoever tries to save their life will lose it remember?

Aunty, didn't you read the bolded in the quoted response?
When did taking safe medication or wearing a seatbelt become a violation of God's law? Blood Transfusion doesn't fit this category yet you come here to miscontrue what he said, just continue

explosiveskull:
The only Jehovah witness that insults people online, though I've seen those that fight offline. Keep it up. Old Kid.

SMH
You are obviously a pikin, kindly leave my mention and finish the food that you are eating and go to sleep. It helps a lot.

explosiveskull:
Hahahaha! How can someone going to eat ukwa be crying? Not possible. Am happy and I advise you to do same.

Instead ranting online like a baby, go eat your food and sleep.
Adult Kid on Nairaland.

explosiveskull:
You can see am a happy jolly fellow, my jehovah witness girlfriend is always making me happy.
Am just worried about your mental health period.
I just took my bath now, she called me to eat ukwa.

Cry Cry Baby, Come and see your mummy

Who cares about how you choose to live your life or who your girl friend is? Stop disgracing yourself in public, Uncle skull wey don explode

ImaIma1:
I have my reasons.

Okay, Good for you, I also had my reason and I informed you of it.

explosiveskull:
You are bereaved simple and in pains.

Yeah, bereaved because of your dead on arrival post. Kindly shift, let me bereave my bereave in peace.

Sad soul

ImaIma1:
Didn't expect you to answer.

Why did you asked then? At least Maximus69, another JW dignified you with a response. I gave you the reason why I didn't you an answer. address that and make changes. Not everyone here has the time to chase clout.

explosiveskull:
My problem here is proving to you that you are very angry and will soon commit suicide cos am dating a jehovah witness who is sensible more than you, am telling you now that it shouldn't be your business dictating other people's life. Do you think I'll have a problem with my sister if tomorrow she brings a muslim, my love for her won't even shutter for a split second. Don't have a seizure cos of others. Worship your Jehovah while I worship my God, man no go vex. And for the ashamed thing, she will understand and trust my line of action, at least its not like am cheating or hurting her for using her text to prove what true love is as preached by Jesus himself, ooh! I forgot, you guys have no regard for Jesus.

onlookers looking at this stupid post filled with rubbish. If she will even dignifies you with a response then you are fortunate.

achorladey:
[s]Op why don't you include this in your myth and common misconception

In the land of JWS there are two biggest ORGANIZATIONS

1. JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION(WTBTS)*as a registered and made legal under SATAN'S ORGANIZATION.

2. SATAN'S ORGANIZATION( Every other organization in the world you can think of be it RELIGIOUS, COMMERCIAL, POLITICAL, NON GOVERNMENTAL, EDUCATIONAL e.t.c

Something for the Op to think about, Do you agree to the fact that DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY that members of Jehovah's organization work for satan organization?

Do you believe only members of Jehovah's organization will be saved?

*look for that online
[/s]

Kindly help our eyes and stop posting nonsense asking Jamb questions that you have already asked, were given answers yet you still argued blindly.

Maximus69:
There are many of them on Nairaland, once they notice someone asking questions to know about JWs, they will all surface with their endless arguments.

So immediately i find an interested person i will direct them to go and find JWs in the neighbourhood!

I have made it an habit of checking previous posts of people who engage me negatively on Nairaland. It often reveals the kind of person they truly are online. Saves me a lot of time and stress. btw I have been following your discussions on this platform, really impressed, I hope to meet you someday.

1x2x3:
Stop confusing yourself sir.

The first thing to understand is the JW believe there are multiple Gods. Jesus is A God, but not God Almighty. This verse is actually used to separate Jesus Christ from Jehovah.

At Isaiah 9:6 Jesus Christ is prophetically called ʼEl Gib·bohrʹ, “Mighty God” (not ʼEl Shad·daiʹ [God Almighty], which is applied to Jehovah at Genesis 17:1)."

Jesus Christ is "Mighty God" Jehovah is "God Almighty" Almighty is clearly a higher title than simply Mighty, which could include anybody who is considered Mighty, and a God, as JW consider Jesus.


Do you have more questions?

Kindly stop engaging that moniker, what you are even discussing with him is well known to him, he is just here to chase clout, not learn.
I fear your time and efforts will be wasted trying to reason with such person. We can only give him a chance offline.
Maximus69 would know better.

ImaIma1:
Was the blood transfusion doctrine really reversed by the JW organisation?

You should known the answer to this simple question and many more if you don't do your quoted statement below. Why do think a public forum is the best place to learn from JWs? It never is.

Voltron.

But it's true now. That's how I get them of my doorstep

mitchyy:
Thanks for the update. I'll redirect my energy to others who are willing to discuss maturedly without using demeaning words

I wanted to tell you same, some monickers here don't deserve JW valuable attention anymore.

Thanks Maximus69

mitchyy:
You're welcome bro. Great to meet you

Same here

CAPSLOCKED:
I'M JUST GETTING INVOLVED BECAUSE YOU'VE PULLED ME IN, PLEASE, WHAT IS THE TRUTH AND CONVICTIONS BACKED BY EVIDENCE?


BEFORE I READ YOUR REPLY, I'D LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT I'M ANTI-BELIEFS. IF A BELIEF SYSTEM CANNOT BE PROVEN USEFUL FOR THE GOOD OF ALL HUMANKIND AT ONCE THEN IT IS USELESS, AND MUST BE DISCARDED.

Pilate asked Jesus "What is Truth" -John 18:38.

What did you think he did next, he went out. Pilate wasn't interested in knowing the answer despite having the opportunity to learn it from Jesus himself.

Jehovah's Witnesses are not new to you, you see them in your neighborhood, you meet them online I see you comment repeatedly on their thread, their website jw.org is public. Why don't you harness these avenues to answer the question above instead of trying to start an online argument.

mitchyy:
If you are a JW, then please take it easy. Its not right to criticize other people's religion even if they do. Two wrongs don't make a right. Everyone has the right to believe in whatever they wish

Okay Sis. just pointing out an obvious fact btw.
Thanks for the reminder

CAPSLOCKED:
DOES IT NOT SURPRISE YOU THAT EVERY RELIGION/SECT/CULT/GANG BELIEVE THEY'RE THE TRUTH?

No it don't surprise me, What is more surprising is when these other religious sect/cult/gang/atheists foam in the mouth and have numerous sleepless nights because a particular group known as Jehovah's Witnesses also chose to believe that they have the truth because of their convictions backed by evidence.

xandy84:
It all started during my Baptism period. I finished all my study, ready for it and even told my parents who was not witness then only to be told I was not ready by the family that help with my studies. It hurt cos I can see people I was better than getting baptized and I felt it happen cos my parents was not a witness and gradually, I just keep losing interest. I tried to start going to meeting when I left Naija but could not keep up. The boat has sailed.

That is sad to hear, I guess those that studied with you gave you reasons why you should wait before committing yourself water baptism.

Even if others who you felt you where better than were getting baptized, remember it is not a competition, it never is.

The boat you think haven't sailed, hasn't. There is still time, though now short. You can contact Jehovah's Witnesses again, talk to the elders and arrange a study again, with time you will come to appreciate the organization once more and. Re-convince yourself why you wanted to be baptized as one if Jehovah's Witnesses. It takes time but with Jehovah's help you will do it.
Check out jw.org website first, so you know what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing at this time. You can then pick it up from there.
I wish you the best.

justli:
You may have asked all the other questions. But I doubt you have ask the question "is Jehovah witness a false religion"
And you should'nt do this jw.org.
Be open to truth and see independent thoughts on this

Is Jehovah's Witnesses a false religion?

No

So instead of wasting your time, trying to mislead people. Take your "truth" to your disorganized denominations with conflicting teachings and doctrines caused by their independent thoughts.
Leave JWs with their united thought which unifies them around the world, cause that very fact is one of reasons why they are convinced that they've identified true religion.