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Is Achebe not used by northern politicians to cause disunity in the south? Why raise the dead issue now?

I cannot follow Muhammad because:

Sura 46:9 says:

''Say: I am no new thing among the messangers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner''.

In the above statement, Muhammad himself admitted in a clear term that he did not know what will be done to him and his followers. It means he was not sure of his own salvation and that of all other muslims. This is unfortunate. If the blind leads the blind they will fall into a pit. Those muslims who do not want to fall into pit of hell fire should better rethink and reverse knowing fully well there is no second chance after death. How logical is it to follow a person who does not know his own fate?

Questions:

Would a true prophet of God say ''he did not know what God will do to him?

Would God have truely chosen a person and would still not be sure of his own fate?

Since he was not sure of his own salvation, what moral or spiritual justification did he have to warn others?

Again, Sura 48:1-2

''Lo! We have given thee (O Muhammad) a signal of victory'',

That Allah MAY forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, and MAY perfect His favour unto thee, and MAY guide thee on a right path,

Here, the Quran says Allah ''may'' forgive (not have forgiven) Muhammad's past and future sins. Everything about his prophehood is under ''may'' (not certain).

What should come first, a call to prophethood or forgiveness of sin? The fact that he was yet to be forgiven his sins disqualified him to be a prophet. The true and holy God would not commit His work into the hand of an unforgiven sinner. A sinner warning a sinner? It is not done.


''Lo! We have given thee (O Muhammad) a sign of victory''
......a sign of victory. This shows there had been much plea or struggle to get his sins forgiven, yet it was still a sign of victory, not a victory. If he was so dear or close to Allah as muslims believe, why did it take so much efforts to get him forgiven?

I choose to follow Jesus because:

John 10:9

Jesus said ''I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and and find pasture.

The above is a statement from the One who is generally accepted as faultess, sinless and holy. It is a statement certain and worthy to be followed.

John 14;6

Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Nobody can get to God through any other prophet.

Hebrew 12:2

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.........

Finisher of our faith means Jesus had completed everything about our faith, we need no other prophet.

Islam is a religion of peace. If you say it is not, I WILL KILL YOU.

I do appreciate the grievances you expressed in your post against my thread ''The Origin of Muslims God''.

I did not intend to cause hate or hurt to my muslim friends. I thought I have the right to express my opinion about Islam just as muslims too do about Christianity on this website.

You will agree with me that so many things have been said against the Bible and Jesus on Nairaland and there was no threat to cause ''WAR''.

The Bible says we should not offend or get offended for our offerings to be acceptable to God.

Please don't be offended. God bless you. Thanks.

F00028: eastern languages like Arabic and Hebrew have two types of plurals: plural of numbers and plural of respect.

so, a proclamation beginning with "we" doesn't mean it is made by more than one person.

Who was respecting who? The angel respecting himself by saying ''we''?

Even God does not respect Himself and say ''we''.

I beg to disagree. Any more explations acceptable?

Each time the angel Gabriel brings message to Muhammad, he uses the word ''We''. I am sure you know ''we'' is used for more than one person.

Question: What make up the ''we''? Allah plus the angel? If it is Allah plus the angel, it means the angel was equating himself with Allah.

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let US make man in OUR image....

Here, God was talking to the Trinity before He proceeded to create man as narrated in verse 27.

Thank you.

Muslims have defended or sought to defend in such cases....

What is Boko Aram defending or seeking to defend?

Muslim have defended or sought to defend in such cases....

What is Boko Aram defending or seeking to defend?

I discover that in the islam section, they select only their own people to reply to threads.

Why are they afraid of other people's comment? They said they have banned me in their section and when I post in Xtian section, it stays there for some time and transfered later to islam section where comments are not allowed.

The muslims or the moderator in this section respond to thread rightly or wrongly and disallow people to react to it.

If I have truely been banned, how do my threads find their ways to the section?

It is cowardice to talk and run away. It is also an act of wickedness to conceal the truth from the people for them to be destroyed.

A person without skeleton in his cupboard would not be afraid of being searched. Ki Olorun sanu yin o (may God have mercy on you.)

hadbak: If ur SMART enuf 2 BELIEVE d Quran authentifying d bible(i.e d unadulterated) as faultless, don't u think ur DULL enuf not 2 think d GLORIOUS Quran is TRUE? The one n similar massage all prophets of all tym preaches is worship d ONLY one n true GOD Who begeth not nor He is begotten n deys none lyk Him. n d particular prophet at d tym is d messanger. u xtians neva agreed God is one(trinity), He neva had a Son n mother.infact u cal jesus god among odas..well dts u peoples DESTINY!!!

I am quoting the Quran because that is what you muslims believe in. If the Quran that has a satanic source could still testify of Jesus as faultless, it means Jesus is so glaringly perfect that even Satan cannot dispute it.

The way you muslims talk and act shows the type of spirit that lives inside you - satanic spirit. We are talking about issue and you are abusing my person using the word ''dull''. Do you want to start war here? It is not your fault, it is satanic spirit behind islam.

hadbak: u sounded provoked bcus dey banned u, dts y ur ranting, I see. Ur quoting d Quran(whc came after d bible) dt confirms d authenticity of d bible n yet u said dey was no nid for islam? If u dnt hav a prejudizd mind dnt u think d Quran came 2 tell u dat ur bible was from God until u xtians went astray, manipulated it 2 suits ur selves? Let me break it down... Whn jesus(pbuh) was alife he NEVA claimd God in three persons,son of God, celebratd his birthdays on every Dec 25th,crucification,asked his followers 2 worship him, calls himslf GOd or mary as mother of god(waliyaazubillah) amonge odas. All Tis are aditions n subtractions made by u xtians which NULIFIED its authenticity hence d NOBLE quran came 2 guide mankind unto d staraight path. D bible has a lot of errors n contracdictions which made it clear it has been tampard bman. Xtians scholars has confirmed d fact that d bible its not reliable. No b me talk am, na ur xtian brodas confirm am demslfs.. Go hug transformar!!!

NO PROVOCATION AT ALL

I am not provoked for being banned from muslim section. I know the Devil will not be happy with his secrets being exposed.

Unfortunately, what should have been an eye-opener for you is seen as criticising ur religion. O ma se o. (it is a pity). What do I gain from criticism? To get an award? It is my prayer that God in His mercy will open ur spiritual eyes.

I will not wish you death as you say I should go and die on transformer. I do not have the spirit of Islam, I have the Spirit of Christ.

As for the authenticity of the Bible, have you not read:

Sura 2:62 that says Christians shall have reward with their Lord? If the Bible is not authentic why did the Quran say Christians will have reward?

I know there are other verses of the Quran that state otherwise and that is one of the confusions brought by Islam because you cannot be saying ''yes and no'' at the same time. There are so many ''yes and no'' in the Quran which I will post later, not for criticism but to expose the truth. No matter how clever the Devil is, he is not ominiscience, he is bound to make mistakes.

I will also expose in my post later why the muslims think the Bible has been tampered with.

Sweetnecta: @Nextpart: As to "faultless son", it has nothing to do with his delivery of message or how those who receive it will keep it after him. It is not clearly saying either, though you may wanna read your own meaning to it. You will have to read other verses below it to know what was said about the son just announced. Verses 20 and 21 will let you know that he will be a fatherless child, hence a miracle because at that time you would not have fatherless babies like right now when people go to sper.m banks to borrow enough for usage. You will also see that he was a command from God, a decree, like all of us, a sign to his people who always think they know everything, even the Thought of God. You see that they failed about creation of baby without father, as they asked Mary, even that baby can be made to talk from childhood. He was also a mercy for his people as he stated in the Bibles that he is sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Lost sheep needs someone with mercy to find his way to guidance otherwise satan will devour him as wolf will devour a real cattle.

To claim faultless of message on Jesus is correct since each messenger [as] delivered his message from faultlessly. Jesus is not the only one who delivered his message faultlessly. We see Moses boldly confronting Pharaoh in his court even so much so that when he showed the snake sign from his staff the first time, Pharaoh was as a human being was scared and about to take to his heels. Not every messenger [as] dealing with his own people so that he can be mild or meek like Jesus was. I will get to why faultless delivery of message is not in itself sufficient for a future faultless message to come after it. After all Moses delivered his message faultlessly so much so that evil tyrannical pharaoh perished for not being a follower of Moses and this message. So were the idol worshipers of yahweh idol in form of golden calf.

Jesus as I have said above said that he was sent only to the house of the Israel, indeed the lost among the sheep. Anything outside this scope is a lie on Jesus. I will not lie on him. I hope you will not.


The statement that no one to correct anyone who says he follows Jesus and his message is false by this very verse from Jesus himself We can plainly understand that someone else who is to come after Jesus will give full and complete truth, something that Jesus didn't do before he left and that the same someone else will remind the disciples because the had forgotten so quickly or correct people who have erred by reminding them of the truth when error has become fashionable.

Jesus [as] was exactly this to the jews after Moses [as] left what Muhammad [sa] is to the world after Jesus left. Each prophet [as] from God is corrector of human community when he arrives.

It is untrue that other prophets b4 Jesus were faultless. Moses killed an Egyptian, Elijah called down fire to kill, Elisha called out bears that killed children etc, etc. Because of the imperfections of all the prophets, Jesus had to come with his faultless message.

Muhammed that was born with flesh and blood, who committed various atrocities, sinful like any other sinners was not in a position to change the message of a faultless Jesus whom the Quran called '' the Word and Spirit of God.

LagosShia: Going by your logic based on the Quran, there would have also being no need to send Jesus (as) because the Quran also refer to prophets preceeding Jesus (as) as "faultless,holy,pure," etc.

Also no one here is faulting the message of Jesus (as).the claim here is his message was distorted with your pagan beliefs like trinity,crucifixion,sonship,easter,christmas,etc

Please get your facts straight.

Where is it written that prophets b4 Jesus were faultless? Moses killed an Egyptian, Elijah called down fire that killed people, Elisha called out a bear that killed children, etc etc. No prophet b4 Jesus was perfect or faultless and that was why Jesus had to come.

hadbak: Indeed jesus(pbuh) is a faultless son of mary n his massages were faultless just as oda messagers(noah,moses etc)before him.. As time elapses, his massages was misinterpreted tru INOVATIONs n people went astray from d truth with d help of satan. Tis is d PRIME reason y God sent prophet mohammad(pbuh) 2 corect tis misunderstandings. Its not about d faultless massage or faultless messanger buh about how d people went astray dat warranted prohet mohammad's(pbuh) coming. No confusn

You said as time elapses his message was misinterpreted thru INNOVATION and people went astray...!.......

Your view is not right becos the Quran came thru Muhammed and the Quran confirms that the Bible is authentic and those who follow it shall not fear nor grieve. This means that as at the time of Muhammed the Bible was faultless and there was no need for Islam.

Sura 5:69:

''Lo! those who believe and those who are Jews and Sabaeans and Christians - whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doth right, there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

Since the message of Jesus for people before and in Muhammed's time was good enough for salvation to mankind, I hereby submit there was no need for Islam.

Islam is an introduction of the Devil to cause confusion and violence in the world. Practically speaking, is Islam not causing violence? This is the Devil's achievement.

Thank God for He is still in the business of saving muslims from the claw of Satan, an expert deceiver.

Sura 19:19:

''He said: I am only a messanger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son''

The above was a message from the angel to virgin Mary. The faultless son is Jesus.

If Jesus was faultless, his message was faultless. Since his message was faultless, there was no need for another message or messanger to change it. You don't correct what is correct.

A confusion was created by sending Prophet Muhammad to change a faultless, perfect message from a faultless man.

Who is behind this confusion? God or Satan? I am sure it is Satan as God is not an author of confusion.

Sura 19:19:

''He said: I am only a messanger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son''.

The above was a message from the angel to virgin Mary. The faultless son is Jesus.

If Jesus was faultless, his message was faultless. Since his message was faultless, there was no need for another message or messanger to change it. You don't correct what is correct.

A confusion was created by sending Prophet Muhammad to change a faultless, perfect message from a faultless man.

Who could be behind this confusion? God or Satan? I am sure it could not be God because His is not an author of confusion.

John chapter 14:
Verse 16 says:

''And I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever''

Verse 17:

Even the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but you know him: for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Questions:

''.....whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not'' (verse 17) Did people not see Mohammed?

''.....for he dwelleth (lives) with you '' Mohammed was not yet born at that time, so how could he have dwelt (lived) with them.

Again Mohammed could not be described as a Comforter in the bible because he did not comfort anybody, instead he was killing those who disbelieved
him. Even the Quran did not describe him as Comforter.