Hello sir.. you advised me on this last year and I got married to my Belgian spouse around November last year. She went back and got everything in order and I’ll love to start my application this month. Sir I’ll so much appreciate it if you can advise me on how to apply under directive 2004/ex/58.
Thank you very much

pansophist:


It would be hard, but visiting her is easy.

But If you will like to visit her, I can advise you on how to get a visa under "directive 2004/ec/58", without paying anything, except for Uber when you go to submit and pick your visa after two weeks,

but that's only if you guys are truly married or for those that have other kinds of relationship with Europeans (eg parents and kids).

Hello. I’d love to ask a question regarding this. I got married to a Belgian citizen late last year and I’ll love to start the whole paper process but I’m unsure of the best route to start the whole thing. Please I’ll appreciate if you can shine more light on this on how to start. Thanks

optimusprime2:


This situation is tricky and wholly depends on your academic funding source... but most importantly try to understand that Belgium is not like the US, UK and the likes when it comes to dependent spouses on a study permit. Your spouse is also to be given a long stay D visa, which means he/she has to apply wholly for a long stay alongside your own application... basically everything (apart from academic enrolment) that you submit, he/she has to submit too.

Now the tricky part as I mentioned earlier, lies on "Funding". Tricky in the sense that; your spouse should not give an isolated form of funding, it has to be connected to you-Because you are the one who is going for studies not your spouse. Based on that, your spouse shouldn't submit an isolated Annex32 or blocked account without it being connected to you.

If you are on a Flemish scholarship, then it's almost not possible to attach a dependent based on agreements/undertakings "You" sign that pertains to you as the sole benefactor of a scholarship.

(If done together)
If you use an annex 32, asides the fact that a lot of Authenticated and legalised paperwork has to be provided to support the application, please note that the financial requirements for the guarantor become double the value, i.e 800Euros/month x 2.
However that's only one side of the coin, even if the financials are met, it might be permitted but not guaranteed- if your spouse does not justify a credible reason why he/she needs to accompany you (remember you submit your enrolment letter for the Annex 32, your spouse also needs to submit a written letter alongside marriage
Documents requesting to accompany you)

(If done together)
Most likely, a blocked account (about 20,000Euros if I am not mistaken) is more advised in this instance as the paperwork required would not be as super-sized as the Annex32. However your spouse would still need a covering letter regardless.

In my opinion I advise your spouse to also apply for an academic program and tag along with you, as since the requirements for the visa application will be almost the same thing for both of you, why not go for a value added option for your spouse?

Okay sir. We actually got married months ago and she just left for Belgium. I’ve legalized our marriage certificate already at the embassy last week . I waited till she went back before I come back to this thread. I will so much appreciate if you can explain further on this

pansophist:


It would be hard, but visiting her is easy.

But If you will like to visit her, I can advise you on how to get a visa under "directive 2004/ec/58", without paying anything, except for Uber when you go to submit and pick your visa after two weeks,

but that's only if you guys are truly married or for those that have other kinds of relationship with Europeans (eg parents and kids).

It would be hard, but visiting her is easy.

But If you will like to visit her, I can advise you on how to get a visa under "directive 2004/ec/58", without paying anything, except for Uber when you go to submit and pick your visa after two weeks,

but that's only if you guys are truly married or for those that have other kinds of relationship with Europeans (eg parents and kids). [/quote]

not yet
just finalizing some stuffs but we will very soon

cooooooks:
Have you spoken with your Belgian spouse?

thank you very much bro
i will surely hit you up and update you once i am about to start.
i appreciate

pansophist:


You can turn it to a permanent stay if she applies for you in Belgium as her partner. Or in another eu country such as the Netherlands, which is more easier

thanks for this and i truly appreciate.
but please is there a way the visit visa can be eventually turned to a permanent stay and the maximum duration of the visit visa?
and finally would it be advisable to wait and apply for the D visa per adventure the visit visa can not be turned to a permanent one.
Thanks boss

pansophist:


It would be hard, but visiting her is easy.

But If you will like to visit her, I can advise you on how to get a visa under "directive 2004/ec/58", without paying anything, except for Uber when you go to submit and pick your visa after two weeks,

but that's only if you guys are truly married or for those that have other kinds of relationship with Europeans (eg parents and kids).

I am moving to Belgium. And I wanna apply due to the fact that we are legally married.

pansophist:


Do you want to go visit her, or you want to move to Belgium ?

Ok sir
i wanna ask if her monthly income of around 1500 after tax wont be an obstacle when im about to start applying and the fact that she just got healed from a brain tumor and the hospital she worked at as a nurse pays her the said 1500 monthly.

pansophist:


Why not ask your question directly? It's too ambiguous to answer.

boss i will need your help on this. i got married to a belgian couple of weeks ago. please is there any steps you know that one can do to ensure it all goes smoothly

pansophist:
The biggest misconception about Japa is the idea that you must spend millions. It is not. You can have millions to show on your bank statement, but you don't have to spend millions. It may just happen that you only have to spend on the application fee, depending on the category you applied for.

For example, if you are a family member of a European citizen, then you don't have to show your bank statement, submit proof of flight, or hotel, or that you are coming back to Naija, and the application fee is free. You are literally just going to collect a visa without stress. In fact on the Schengen visa application form, it is written there that EU family members should not fill in that area. And the visa must be issued within two weeks at the latest.

And guess what? the embassy cannot deny you. It's against the law. They can deny it in exceptional circumstances such as you have ebola that can infect the public or a serial killer with the hobby of blowing up stations and airports. Even if you have been banned from entering Europe, your status as a child, spouse, or parent of an EU citizen redeems you and invalidates the ban.

If you have any family with an EU passport, you are a lucky child. Just go and ask the embassy for your visa.

But if you do not have an EU relative, then go through school. Don't go as a visitor, you will suffer eh? As a student, you just buy time for yourself like two years or more (depending on degree length, so you can know your way around, and find a legal route to make your stay permanent.

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