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The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 3:45pm On Jul 08, 2008
There can be no doubt that the incredible realities of the gospel Jesus brought to mankind are the same treasures humanity has desperately searched for throughout its existence. Scripture absolutely confirms that this great gospel is that humans were created in the image of God, to become gods, with all the characteristics of God and full conversion into that divine race. The highest goal to which a human can aspire is to become an immortal, wise, all-powerful being with complete dedication to a perfect universal force. This is believed to be the ultimate and true destiny of humanity. We also believe this is the gospel defined in the Greek as "a good message" that Jesus preached, and every word in the Bible leads to. What better "good message" could he bring? While the church will no doubt scream blasphemy and heresy from the rooftops, the biblical realty stands firm in its most important and relevant declaration to the entirety of humanity, the greatest message ever to fall on human ears:

Mankind has been on a quest for immortality, unconditional love, absolute truth, perfect wisdom, total freedom, ultimate power, an answer to why the human race is on Earth, and the true destiny of humanity throughout its history. Long hidden by a pious, fear motivating, very narrow, and often contradictory presentation of scripture by "Christian" theology is the fact that all these human treasures are in the Bible. They are not only clearly defined concepts, they are to be inherited by humans, literally guaranteed by the actions of an amazing entity from an incredible race of immortal, universally powerful beings.
     The Bible encourages the search for truth, as well as promising reward for its discovery, not the least of which is the epitome of freedom from the physical world. It discourages the pursuit of earthly wealth and power, but strongly encourages that mankind seek treasure of a higher value. The modern church gives no clear guidance as to the true nature of these higher rewards, except a very vague possibility of future residence in a very ethereal place called "heaven". The orthodox concept is vague because the word ‘heaven’ simply means the sky in the Bible, and the church prefaces entry to this "heaven" with enough exclusion clauses to deter all but the most pious and virtuous. The Bible, on the other hand, is not so vague on the promises it offers, or the true destiny of mankind it clearly presents.
     The truth revealed by an intense scriptural quest about who and what the divine beings of the Bible are, is amazing in its own right, while their long-hidden relationship to their highest creation, humanity is almost beyond human perception. It can be easily found in scripture that the major deception, in the "greatest deception", is the ethos of the pulpit effectively concealing the greatest destiny mankind could ever imagine. This long concealed destiny is the "gospel", the incredibly "good news" Jesus, and the Apostles after him, proclaimed to mankind, and the ultimate truth every word in the Bible points toward.
     The highest goal to which a human can aspire is to become an immortal, wise, loving, and all-powerful being with complete dedication to a perfect universal force. This, we believe, is the ultimate and true destiny of humanity. What better "good message" could Jesus bring to humanity?

The Gospel of the Royalty

     The word "gospel" appears almost 100 times in the New Testament. The word is translated from two similar Greek words, both meaning good news or message. In context, it is referred to as the gospel of Jesus, God, and the kingdom. It is called the everlasting, and the glorious gospel, the gospel of grace and peace, and is associated with mystery and faith. The Bible declares it will be proclaimed, or published to the entire world several times, and Jesus equated it with his own importance.
     The kingdom of God is the promise of Jesus to humanity and appears in New Testament scripture almost 150 times. The word kingdom is taken from the Greek word 'basileia', pronounced bas-il-i'-ah; properly, royalty, and is not a place as portrayed from the orthodox pulpit. The concept of a kingdom, long thought to be synonymous with the place called "heaven", is actually sovereignty, a universal ascendancy, referring to the position of the highest order of beings in existence, the Elohiym, the Gods.
     The earthly actions Jesus, the son of God, and head of this universally royal family, will allow the incredible conversion of humans from a physical state, to full eternal inheritance. That inheritance will bring mankind into the majestic family of the Elohiym. The promise of inclusion into this imperial family of the most powerful race of beings in the universe is the only true path of entry into the "kingdom" of the Gods. This is the gospel, the good message Jesus died for, and announced to humanity. This is not only the greatest news ever heard by any human being, but it is the true destiny mankind has been pursuing for millennia.

All references to translation taken from the Strong's concordance bible
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by mnwankwo(m): 3:53pm On Jul 08, 2008
The highest goal to which a human can aspire is to become an immortal, wise, loving, and all-powerful being with complete dedication to a perfect universal force. This, we believe, is the ultimate and true destiny of humanity. What better "good message" could Jesus bring to humanity?

What are you saying with this your message. Are you saying that the highest goal of man is to be God or like God. Explain what you mean by "perfect universal force". Thanks

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Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 4:47pm On Jul 08, 2008
@m_nwanko
Genesis 1:26-27:
26 Then God said, “Let us make human beings[a] in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”
27 So God created human beings[b] in his own image.
In the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them
Genesis 2:16-17:
16 But the Lord God warned him, “You may freely eat the fruit of every tree in the garden—17 except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat its fruit, you are sure to die.”
Genesis 3:5:
5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil.”
Genesis 3:22:
22 Then the Lord God said, “Look, the human beings[a] have become like us, knowing both good and evil. What if they reach out, take fruit from the tree of life, and eat it? Then they will live forever!”
Psalm 82:6:
6 I say, ‘You are gods;
you are all children of the Most High.


I have posted the above bible passages to establish the fact that God created man to be a god, for whatever reason this incredible truth is hardly ever mentioned on the pulpit. The reference to a universal force was going a bit deeper, the force meaning hosts of heaven. Human beings would become a part of them
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by mnwankwo(m): 4:53pm On Jul 08, 2008
KunleOshob:

@m_nwanko
Genesis 1:26-27:
26 Then God said, “Let us make human beings[a] in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”
27 So God created human beings[b] in his own image.
In the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them
Genesis 2:16-17:
16 But the Lord God warned him, “You may freely eat the fruit of every tree in the garden—17 except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat its fruit, you are sure to die.”
Genesis 3:5:
5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil.”
Genesis 3:22:
22 Then the Lord God said, “Look, the human beings[a] have become like us, knowing both good and evil. What if they reach out, take fruit from the tree of life, and eat it? Then they will live forever!”
Psalm 82:6:
6 I say, ‘You are gods;
you are all children of the Most High.


I have posted the above bible passages to establish the fact that God created man to be a god, for whatever reason this incredible truth is hardly ever mentioned on the pulpit. The reference to a universal force was going a bit deeper, the force meaning hosts of heaven. Human beings would become a part of them

Thanks for the reference. What is the image of God. Is an image of God also God. You have not yet explained the universal force. You can go as deep as you are capable of as that will enable me to understand your position. Thanks
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 5:34pm On Jul 08, 2008
Image of God, Likeness of God (genesis 1:26) : this was explained in one of the verses i quotes genesis 3 :22 to be precise. it stated that man had become like God beco he now had knowledge. If you read the verse again, it implies that if man is allowed to live forever he ould become a god. God not only created man in his image he created man to be like him. And the implications of this verse are infinite. However in his infinite wisdom God decided to limit Man's godlike abilities and that is why he was not allowed to eat from the tree of knowlege. However after he had eaten from this tree, his godlike potential had been unveiled to limit this God decided to limits man's life thereby sending him out of the garden of eden so he would not have access to the tree of life and live forever like God (genesis 3:22)

I explained the term universal force earlier, i related it to the "host of heaven" of which human beings would eventually become a part of. these are the supernatural beings refered to as angels in the bible.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by mnwankwo(m): 5:48pm On Jul 08, 2008
KunleOshob:

Image of God, Likeness of God (genesis 1:26) : this was explained in one of the verses i quotes genesis 3 :22 to be precise. it stated that man had become like God beco he now had knowledge. If you read the verse again, it implies that if man is allowed to live forever he ould become a god. God not only created man in his image he created man to be like him. And the implications of this verse are infinite. However in his infinite wisdom God decided to limit Man's godlike abilities and that is why he was not allowed to eat from the tree of knowlege. However after he had eaten from this tree, his godlike potential had been unveiled to limit this God decided to limits man's life thereby sending him out of the garden of eden so he would not have access to the tree of life and live forever like God (genesis 3:22)

I explained the term universal force earlier, i related it to the "host of heaven" of which human beings would eventually become a part of. these are the supernatural beings refered to as angels in the bible.



Thanks for explaining further. However I dispute the assertion that man can become like God. Man is merely a creature of God and even when he returns to heaven, he reamins a human being completely dependent on God for his existence. Thus God can exist without man but a "perfect man" cannot exist without God. Man remains a creature even when he has developed all the abilities God gave him. He is not part of the creator.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 6:14pm On Jul 08, 2008
I know this concept of Man being like God would be very difficult to comprehend and almost immpossible to understand, but it is true the bible mentioned it several times even Jesus christ himself mentioned it (John 10:34-36:34 Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures[a] that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’ 35 And you know that the Scriptures cannot be altered. So if those people who received God’s message [b]were called ‘gods,’ 36 why do you call it blasphemy when I say, ‘I am the Son of God’? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world.)

the church just never does so we are not aware. But man realizing his ultimate destiny of being like God is the true destiny of man and the gospel of Christ to us. The concept of man being like God is very scriptural i think you just need to explore that concept further to fully understand it and i am sorry it would be impossible to explain it to you , you just have to realise it. As i said earlier some things are very deep.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by mnwankwo(m): 6:18pm On Jul 08, 2008
That something is mentioned in the bible does not in itself constitute the truth or lack of it. All the same it is your own view and you are entitled to it. Thanks
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by PastorAIO: 8:09am On Jul 09, 2008
Is it about just Royalty or Rather a Royal Priesthood?

also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basileia
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 5:33pm On Jul 14, 2008
m_nwankwo:

That something is mentioned in the bible does not in itself constitute the truth or lack of it. All the same it is your own view and you are entitled to it. Thanks
Sorry o i thought i was dialoging with a christian.

@ All
There are several questions begging for answers and several answers hiddefn in the bible, i wonder why the church keeps quite on several of this truths.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by naomijt(f): 5:48pm On Jul 14, 2008
Wait a min!! I don't get you, are you saying that we will be like God someday?
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by naomijt(f): 5:51pm On Jul 14, 2008
I think there is something called Hermeneutics - the art or science of interpreting scriptures. What you did is to quote scriptures out of context.

Kindly interprete scriptures with scriptures.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 6:10pm On Jul 14, 2008
If you think i quoted the scriptures out f context, why don't you qoute  the referenced scriptures in there proper context or get someone who as a better understanding to quote it. The scriptures i quoted were written in plain englsh and not parables that are subject to interpretation. The bible is very clear on the concept of Man being create to be like God, our churches would rather just ignore that statement.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by PastorAIO: 2:39pm On Jul 15, 2008
m_nwankwo:
Thus God can exist without man but a "perfect man" cannot exist without God.

What is a Creator without a creation?
m_nwankwo:

That something is mentioned in the bible does not in itself constitute the truth or lack of it. All the same it is your own view and you are entitled to it. Thanks

That something is mentioned in any book at all does not in itself constitute the truth or lack of it. I generally find that when people reject one authority, it is merely to replace it with another authority that hardly has a better foundation, in fact often a far worse foundation.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by mnwankwo(m): 2:50pm On Jul 15, 2008
Pastor AIO:

What is a Creator without a creation?
That something is mentioned in any book at all does not in itself constitute the truth or lack of it. I generally find that when people reject one authority, it is merely to replace it with another authority that hardly has a better foundation, in fact often a far worse foundation.

Do you dispute that God is still the creator even when he has not created man. What exactly do you mean by replacing one authority with another. Be specific. Thanks
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by PastorAIO: 3:10pm On Jul 15, 2008
m_nwankwo:

Do you dispute that God is still the creator even when he has not created man. What exactly do you mean by replacing one authority with another. Be specific. Thanks

Friend, I never specified the creation of Man. I said what is a creator without a CREATION. To be a creator you have to have a creation.

And as regards Authority I rely on one and one only and that is the spirit given to me to guide me in all things, indeed the very one promised. It has been my observation that many reject one text as an authority for whatever reasons and then uphold another text. Text can never be for me an authority. With the authority that I have I can read Winnie the Pooh and get guidance and edification. I can feel a raindrop on my forehead and get a revelation from that. Mosulems will reject the bible and carry koraan put for top head. What is the justification that koraan has that bible doesn't have, I don't know. You, I presume from reading some of your post, reject bible and carry Grail book put for head. Ultimately what occurs is that you do not think for yourself but rather turn to this authority for ready made answers.
Spiritual things are spiritual things. Earthly things are earthly things. If you try to present Spiritual things in eArthly terms you will falter, you will miss road, you will fail. God cannot be defined, delimited, or confined into our various theories and concepts. If you put fresh wine in your crusty old skins it will be burst asunder and you will be left with neither wine nor skin.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by mnwankwo(m): 3:34pm On Jul 15, 2008
Pastor AIO:

Friend, I never specified the creation of Man. I said what is a creator without a CREATION. To be a creator you have to have a creation.

And as regards Authority I rely on one and one only and that is the spirit given to me to guide me in all things, indeed the very one promised. It has been my observation that many reject one text as an authority for whatever reasons and then uphold another text. Text can never be for me an authority. With the authority that I have I can read Winnie the Pooh and get guidance and edification. I can feel a raindrop on my forehead and get a revelation from that. Mosulems will reject the bible and carry koraan put for top head. What is the justification that koraan has that bible doesn't have, I don't know. You, I presume from reading some of your post, reject bible and carry Grail book put for head. Ultimately what occurs is that you do not think for yourself but rather turn to this authority for ready made answers.
Spiritual things are spiritual things. Earthly things are earthly things. If you try to present Spiritual things in eArthly terms you will falter, you will miss road, you will fail. God cannot be defined, delimited, or confined into our various theories and concepts. If you put fresh wine in your crusty old skins it will be burst asunder and you will be left with neither wine nor skin.

Hi again Pastor,

I do not agree that to be a creator, you have to have a creation. I would rather say that to be a creator, you have to have the creative ability. Creative ability and creation are not the same. It is when the creative ability is expressed that you have creation. Sure, I turn to the Grail Message for all my answers because I know that it is the Truth. If you think otherwise, read it and refute it. It is that simple. To just label my explanations as human theories is not enough. You should go further to demonstrate that they are human theories. Thanks.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by Palesa(f): 7:45am On Jul 17, 2008
David knew we could not be like God.He says himself "what is man that you are so mindfull of him". The short answer to the question “why did God create us?” is “for His pleasure.” Revelation 4:11 says, “Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created.” Colossians 1:16 reiterates the point: “All things were created by Him and for Him.”

Being made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:27), human beings have the ability to know God—and therefore love Him, worship Him, serve Him, and fellowship with Him. God did not create human beings because He needed them. As God, He needs nothing. In all eternity past, He felt no loneliness, so He was not looking for a “friend.” He loves us, but this is not the same as needing us. If we had never existed, God would still be God—the Unchanging One (Malachi 3:6).

The I AM THAT I AM (Exodus 3:14) was never dissatisfied with His own eternal existence. When He made the universe, He did what pleased Him, and since God is perfect, His action was perfect. “It was very good” (Genesis 1:31).

Also, God did not create “peers” or beings equal to Himself. Logically, He could not do so. If God were to create another being of equal power, intelligence, and perfection, then He would cease to be the One True God for the simple reason that there would be two gods—and that would be an impossibility. “The Lord He is God; there is none else beside Him” (Deuteronomy 4:35). Anything that God creates must of necessity be lesser than He. The thing made can never be greater than the One who made it.

Recognizing the complete sovereignty and holiness of God, we are amazed that He would take man and “crown him with glory and honor” (Psalm 8:5), and that He would condescend to call us “friends” (John 15:14-15).
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by KunleOshob(m): 10:45am On Jul 17, 2008
@palsea
i won't bother to repeat my self or offer further explanations, i believe the scriptures quoted in my first post should suffice. And i really don't expect anybody to come to terms with the submissions in the post (becos it really sounds ridiculous and alien to what we have always been told) but that does not take away the fact that it is true. It would actually take a lot for you to understand the concept and i won't even try to explain it to you. Please note that i am not comparing man to God or saying man is equal. The bible says that man is like God. That is a very heavy statement with deep meaning. The church is quiet on it becos they probably don't understand the statement or they don't want you to feel liberated. As i said earlier i can't even start to eplain fiurther.
Re: The Incredible Gospel Of Jesus Christ (humanity's Greatest Quest) by Nobody: 5:11pm On Dec 22, 2008
Interesting thought provoking topic!

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