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Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by davidif: 11:46am On Jul 27, 2008
Here in the USA, Asian students dominate hands down from the Caltech's to the MIT's. In MIT, iI even heard that Americans are only 18% of the graduate students. This guys seem to be breathtaking, in fact, the ones that come to the USA are the ones that couldn't get into the elite colleges back home like Indian Institute of Technology or Beijing University.

They have an amazing school system (especially Singapore) so i wonder why is it that Nigerian students go to Ghana, south Africa, England, or some 3rd or 4th tier school in USA for college rather than study in Asia (some of their universities speak English) where they don't pay quite as much. Also, for those that didn't know, Israeli engineers are probably the best in the world, yes, even better than the Japanese.

My fellow Naija people, what do you think?

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by davidif: 11:47am On Jul 27, 2008
The only reason why Asian schools might not be ranked higher than the Harvard's and the MIT's is because they might not have billions of dollars to spend on doing abstract research on the Black hole or the Kuiper's belt but make no mistake about it, the best students in the MIT's, the Harvard's, Berkeley's and the Caltech's, at least 81% of them are asian in some estimates. As for those of you who think they did rather study in naija or Ghana if they can't get a visa to yanki or England, you are just wasting your time because Asian universities are waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the ones in Ghana and at home so throw away your ignorance and try to broaden your horizon. 


So for anybody who might consider studying in Asia here are a list of excellent schools in Asia that speak English and are cheap.

National University of Singapore (NUS)  http://www.nus.edu.sg/
University of Hong Kong  http://www.hku.hk/
King Abdullah University of Science and Technology (KAUST)  http://www.kaust.edu.sa/
Indian Institute of Technology (there are several of them) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology
Abu Dhabi University  http://www.adu.ac.ae/
Hong Kong University of Science & Technology  http://www.ust.hk/eng/index.htm
Hebrew University  http://www.huji.ac.il/huji/eng/index_e.htm
Technion Israel institute of Technology  http://www.technion.ac.il/
Weizmann institute of Science  http://www.weizmann.ac.il/
Tel Aviv University  http://www.tau.ac.il/
Ben Gurion University  http://web.bgu.ac.il/home
Indian institute of science  http://www.iisc.ernet.in/
National Taiwan University  http://www.ntu.edu.tw/eng2007/
Delhi University http://www.du.ac.in/

here are some other english speaking schools in malaysia

INTI College
http://www.intimal.edu.my/Academicnew/te,
Stamford college
http://www.stamford.edu.my/
Sunway University College
http://www.sunway.edu.my/
Nilai International University College
http://www.nilai.edu.my/
Taylor's University College Malaysia
http://www.taylors.edu.my/
Hope those links help you.


So my brothers if una no dey fear and una think say una sabi book, make una try compete with this students if them no go spank una.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by davidif: 1:27pm On Jul 28, 2008
I also forgot that there universities are cheaper in some cases as compared to schools in the west.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by davidif: 7:54am On Aug 01, 2008
yeah, there are other resources on the web, if you want to find out more.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by deor03(m): 8:08am On Aug 01, 2008
@ poster

Just wondering why you are so passionate about "Asian" schools

Also, you need to realise the reason why most Nigerians want to school in the UK and US. Especially if you have plans of going back home to work.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by toluxa1(m): 2:37pm On Aug 03, 2008
yeah
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by seun001(m): 8:57am On Aug 04, 2008
well,i can personally speak for sunway university college.they had the best students for acca.the 1st,2nd and 3rd place was taken by them and numerous awards for asian countries.i also think olodo plenty for uk schools that y we naijas dey always dust them for dia.oya all u efikos carry go dia.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Viante(f): 2:09pm On Aug 04, 2008
The thing is only three things made me decide not to apply

one, My family said its too far

two, they do not speak english

three, my course is hard to come by

Apart from these i would definitely love to go there
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by mekk(m): 2:31pm On Aug 04, 2008
Viante:

The thing is only three things made me decide not to apply

one, My family said its too far

two, they do not speak english

three, my course is hard to come by

Apart from these i would definitely love to go there


shocked its too far? oh common give me a break!
farther than the US and others? definitely not.

And like the poster rightly mentioned a good
chunk of them speak English cuz they were
former British colony,
so buddy,make up your mind.you ill be
glad you did, grin grin grin
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Viante(f): 2:35pm On Aug 04, 2008
No be me talk am ooh.lol

Seriously the schools i checked only one in japan had my course

but You have to be able to speak japanese undecided undecided cry

i dont think i want to go to india and the likes undecided
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by vicade(m): 2:40pm On Aug 04, 2008
I school in the UK and the best students in my department are japanese. Those guys are just something else. Incredible to say the least.

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Viante(f): 2:47pm On Aug 04, 2008
Really, wetin den dey give these Asian people chop??

they r usually so focused and intelligent!!

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by mekk(m): 2:48pm On Aug 04, 2008
Asian students are one of the finest when
it comes to knowledge but  a lot of
people dont know that.please don't try mess with
them when it comes to academics they seems to
know it all.
you dont contest that my dear.the poster
sure did a very nice work by posting this thread.
we Nigerians and perhaps africans
are usually inclined to think of the
US and some others UNI'S in europe if going to Abroad
comes to mind and not considering asian
universities as an option.

well, methink ignorance is often the
snag here. so when one doesn't know they
simply doesn't know.thats it I guess,

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by femi4love(m): 2:56pm On Aug 04, 2008
In my days at the Uni here, the Asians and a few Nigerians were top of my class. I think the Asians are well blessed in the areas of sciences. The guys in my class were "Programming" genius. Studying Computer Science with them in the same class actually made it more challenging.

I still think because of name and our people's attitudes towards paper qualifications, it is advisable to go west. A lot of very brilliant students still come here to study in the top universities from Asia. If you plan to work in the UK, then you stand a better chance if you study here. I've worked with colleagues who came here for their Masters and ended up getting jobs in good companies, including one of my present colleagues who was secured a work permit by my company.

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by naijaking1: 3:06pm On Aug 04, 2008
@POSTER
You answered your own question.
While a few Western students go to Asia to brush up on language, arts, and culture courses from these native countries, the number of Asian students leaving their own countries to go West for empiric science and technological courses remain overwhelming.
Just as you admired Asians in American universities, don't forget that as late as the 1980s, Nigerians were equally promoted and boosted, because many naija people took advantage of the situation at that time.
Today, while no univeristy in naija compares to many of the ones you listed, none of the ones you list compares to 300 or 400 year old Harvard, or Yale, or even the older Oxford and Cambridge, that's why the Asians go there.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Thor(m): 3:09pm On Aug 04, 2008
The truth is that Asians go to study and the majority of Nigerians go on a study visa to get into the UK and disappear angry

The good news is that the home office is getting far better at rejecting false applicants and the police and immigration service are doing a great jobs finding illegal aliens and deporting them smiley smiley smiley
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Toyman(m): 3:10pm On Aug 04, 2008
Asian education is fast inproving now, the mode of teaching is most asian country like Japan and south korea is second to none

If i have opportunity i will love to enrol and study computer science
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by vicade(m): 3:12pm On Aug 04, 2008
the indians are aactually good and some nigerian students are also very smart but only just behind the japanese and indians especially in IT related fields.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Thor(m): 3:14pm On Aug 04, 2008
Africans are no where to be seen in the UK IT sector. The Indians have that well and truly sewn-up shocked shocked
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by mekk(m): 3:15pm On Aug 04, 2008
I wish Nigeria society in general would place very little emphasis on Paper qualifications.
I think with that,maybe, just may be the genius in all of us will come alive.
then you will see that there are no dull minds anywhere.what we have are just
sleepng minds that needs waking up,
Take peace!!!
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by coopedro(m): 3:18pm On Aug 04, 2008
I LOVE MY FATHER LAND.

WHO GO BETTER GO BETTER even IF YOU ASIA OR LONDON.
WE STILL HAVE GENIUS IN NAIJA.

JUST Believe IN YOURSELF.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Viante(f): 3:20pm On Aug 04, 2008
Who send you?

lol

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Thor(m): 3:21pm On Aug 04, 2008
There is genius in all countries, some countries just have a little more than the average cheesy cheesy

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by mekk(m): 3:26pm On Aug 04, 2008
Thor:

There is genius in all countries, some countries just have a little more than the average cheesy cheesy

Very correct!!!!
But where is Nigeria in all of these?
I still think in terms of creativity and
productivity this country(nigeria) is
way, way behind,

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by mekk(m): 3:33pm On Aug 04, 2008
coo_pedro:


JUST Believe IN YOURSELF.

hmmmm, How nice to say one should believe in oneself.
very easy concept to understand but a difficult discipline to
master.

Its easier said than done,

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by vicade(m): 3:39pm On Aug 04, 2008
In my school,if you go to library, too much naija peeps- from morning to night. read book like say there is no tomorrow.They even have a section of the library for themselves. but unfortunately, that is all about it. read. read. read and still come out just above average. I guess it is not by how long but by how well.

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Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by Shaz(f): 3:42pm On Aug 04, 2008
My take - Western Education is the best when it comes to primary and secondary education. . while Asian Education is the best for tertiary levels.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by mekk(m): 4:01pm On Aug 04, 2008
;d ;d
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by iice(f): 4:08pm On Aug 04, 2008
In certain areas yes. The Japs are on another level but yeah the linggo undecided For the most part you have to learn their language or in some countries, basic english for non-speaking english people.

Would that our own schools manage to 'teach'.



vicade:

In my school,if you go to library, too much naija peeps- from morning to night. read book like say there is no tomorrow.They even have a section of the library for themselves. but unfortunately, that is all about it. read. read. read and still come out just above average. I guess it is not by how long but by how well.

Either the student is slow to pick up, or the teacher didn't bother to teach like the teachers we had in secondary school gawd
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by JosBoy4Lif(m): 4:22pm On Aug 04, 2008
vicade:

In my school,if you go to library, too much naija peeps- from morning to night. read book like say there is no tomorrow.They even have a section of the library for themselves. but unfortunately, that is all about it. read. read. read and still come out just above average. I guess it is not by how long but by how well.
It ercks me when I hear statements like this,
I wonder how the asians acquire so much knowledge, that's right read read read

Thor:

There is genius in all countries, some countries just have a little more than the average cheesy cheesy
no asians are the biggest overachievers
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by iice(f): 4:24pm On Aug 04, 2008
Josboy shocked shocked grin grin i've been talking with chai lately.
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education? by vicade(m): 4:43pm On Aug 04, 2008
JosBoy4Lif:

It ercks me when I hear statements like this,
I wonder how the asians acquire so much knowledge, that's right read read read
no asians are the biggest overachievers

My point is that naija peeps are saitsifed in reading reading just to pass. Japanese and indians read read read and become creative. In most naija universities, students read only to pass. I have had a japanese guy in my class challenge a professor on an issue. A typical naija peep will just nod head and accept.

Everyone needs to read but after reading what you do with such knowledge is what matters and that is where nigerians fall short and asians triumph. we read alot but we rarely create/imagine. Afterall, Imagination is greater than knowledge.

we don't imagine. Most Nigerians are just concerned about passing the exams and it is all over. Maybe it has to do with the backgorund of the nigerian educational system .

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