Make no mistake in interpreting my post as an attack on Chris Oyakhilome it is not, rather it is a true description of the man so many people adore but fail to realise the phoney acts he puts up. Christ embassy is all about Chris Oyakhilome and not jesus christ like he falsely claims and I would explain why shortly.

No man has the power to judge his fellow man but as christians we are required to test the spirits, instruct the ignorant about faith and warn other christians of the antics of preachers who disguise their love for worldly riches with aura of religious authority.

For a start Chris oyakhilome founded christ embassy as a campus fellowship in Ambrose Alli University, while I do not know how he ran things down there (although his followers are always at his beck and call) I can talk about things down here in lagos when in 1998 some so called christ embassy envangelists offered free VCD players for people to join their campus fellowship in unilag my cousin was among those who fell for the bait but has since retraced his steps.

For me to call a so-called man of God a phoney I must either be telling the truth or lying. If I am telling the truth (which is what I am doing)  my conscience will be at ease plus my God would find no fault in it.

If I am lying (which is not what I am doing) I will incur the wrath of God for slandering his faithful servant. Once again make no mistake, I am not calumnising the man but merely stating facts about him.

For any person to be phoney, he must be false or unreal especially with the use of words. I must say Chris Oyakhilome knows just how to use words to suit his lifestyle or illustrate half-truths that suit his purpose. Listening to Chris oyakhilome is very refreshing because of his logical approach to explaining lessons of life but the effect of his message is exactly what contradicts his inspiring messages. The effect is plainly outlandish, sentimental and superficial just as it is with heresies and propaganda both of which are instruments of phoneys.

Listening to him speak on his atmosphere for faith programme on super screen today the 17th of August, where he quoted a verse from Habakkuk (1:5) out of context  (in other to dissuade viewers from believing publications reported against his church in South Africa with the man on the wheel chair story) I just knew it that this man's televangelism is about himself and his reputation. The verse he quoted relative to the whole chapter did not show any relevance to his message nor did it justify his efforts to mislead his viewers. Chris Oyakhilome is thus preaching a false message since it is erroneous, misleading and manipulative. This style is typical in many of his messages I rest my case at this point but be warned the man is a phoney.

Na today!

Abi oh!


Been there done that. . . .


You for use this thread.

A_K_O:

Abi oh!


Been there done that. . . .


You for use this thread.

Likewise dear;;

My point simply is that there are already plenty plenty threads like this; for people like paulipopo that feel the need to criticise Mr.Christopher in public. Been there done that in the sense that hes really not saying anything new.

Hissessss n logs off. . .

donnie,
u dont have to hiss and log off.you know why?because i think there is something in your head thats doesnt want to hear the truth.Truth like this are always bitter and its better you get to know this before it gets too late for you.
For me Oyakhilome has never been in my list of favourite.Its nauseating for me to see a so called man of God doing jerry curl.What kind of annointing will he be passing through?, even the name sounds funny!!!!!!, the appearance looks so artificial and funny that i can't even differentiate him and his wife from night club pals.When he dies,his body would attract more termites, lots of make-ups on the container body when more emphasis ought to be placed on the innerman .The spirit and the body are inversely proportional,they can't be directly.As one is dying ,the other is living .As one is weakening,the other is strengthening.And its not possile to satisfy both at the same time.Lets face fact-That which is difficult for us to do are the pre-requisites into being accepted by God.We all have to be tried and tested to inherit the kingdom of God .The finest of golds spent longer time passing through fire.The first class students are the ones that gave it everything it takes to succeed.So it is in the Kingdom of God.
Lets face reality.Oyakhilome is fond of setting bait for new converts .Why that?They can even go the extent of settign up ladies for unsuspecting victims He does that and they currently do that in the campuses.I experienced this when i was in my 100L.One fat and ugly looking was mandated to be coming after me and making sure i come to their services. I learned fast what God was telling me and before anybody could knew i was off their grip.They are there to promote what we call witchcraft in the house of God(thats even if their church can be termed house of God)

A_K_O:

Likewise dear;;

My point simply is that there are already plenty plenty threads like this; for people like paulipopo that feel the need to criticise Mr.Christopher in public. Been there done that in the sense that hes really not saying anything new.

Capris!! And where is Mukina9 when we need her?  she probably tailgating me to see what she can merged, moved or delete for me.  Guess what? she is going to miss me when I go on vacation.  Even Seun the Admin is going to miss me too.  wannna bet?

I thought Chris went to Uniben?

infighting my pastor is better than yours and my sect is the sect that knows the ultimate truth and practices the real christianity etc, the only time christains come together is when people say there is no god else all you guys do the world over is tear, castigate and bring each other down. pastors are fighting pastors the world over, different sects are denoucing each other every where you go,na wuna sabi sha.

I am particularly worried about the way things are going in the body of Christ( The Church). People are majoring on the minors and negleting the reality of Christianity. Certainly some of the so called pastors that are fake are just capitalising on the gullibilty of christians who are running after the remnants of the bread under the table ignoring the real bread of life. If a pastor is doing what is not real and people cry foul of it they will soon be out of market but in case we embrace them we will certainly face the consequences. People wont easily fall for the bait if they know what a church should be and what they truly want.
A pastor must preach what he does( the Word) and do what he preaches. If this is not the case, I must say here that Jesus of Nazareth will not hesitate to spew them out of His mouth.

@ Poster

First of alll I have a Question for you.
Have you met Chris Oyahilome one on one?
You know you cant pass judgement on sum1 u hardly know or havent talked with one on one.
So i strongly disagree with you.

Then secondly

@ poetikalz
Your Judgement is sentimental.
You are saying he is not what he is becos u dont like him personally and the reason you gave dosent make sense.
Because he is on Jerry curls.that doesnt make sense in anyway.

Now to every1.

Let me tell u guys sumthing.

Before you pass judgement just think of this things.
1. Have you done as much as pastor chris has done?like impacting Nigerian youths with the right mind set?
2. Have you held meeting(s) where thousands and millions of people attended? I mean they came from all part of the world to meet you in a place(bush) just because they think you have something unique.
3. How many people have u influenced I dont mean family members?

Guys lets use our heads. Sum of us are just sentimental and have personal beefs with this Pastor Chris I wonder why?
If u have a problem with him settle it and stop trying to sell the ideas to others.
I'm sure If U were on earth during the time Jesus was on earth you wouldnt have believed him.

His name is Christian not Christopher.

@poster, you did not tell us exactly what he preached that was heretical. If he quoted scripture out of context once, is that enough reason to call him a phoney? (people make mistakes)

someone is judging him based on jerry curls. Jerry curls do not make or mar christian relationships with God. God looks at what we cannot see.

On the whole, I am not an apostle of Chris Oyahkilome but if you must criticise, you should make it objective. I really do not like this message of signs and wonders being preached these days.

We had 2 days of christian meetings here recently and because we had someone who had a gift of dream interpretation, lots of people attended on the first evening. The service was a normal teaching service where we had great exposition and practical points from the guest speaker.
Guess what? The next evening, the hall was not filled - simply because there were no visible miracles. It was shocking. Christianity is about the word of God and not just about signs because signs can be deceitful as we know that satan also has signs and wonders.

That is why Nigeria is the way it is despite churches in almost every 2/3 houses. The word of God does not seem to have a place in the hearts of Nigerians. They only go to church for miracles and to seek material wealth. Millions of christians on Sunday but none on Monday when they back to to work. They are only interested in their pockets during the week.

Bluesteps:

@ Poster

First of alll I have a Question for you.
Have you met Chris Oyahilome one on one?
You know you can't pass judgement on someone u hardly know or havent talked with one on one.
So i strongly disagree with you.

No I have not done all that. But for someone who knows his left from his right you can't tell me my left is my right and vice versa without me knowing you are either trying to fool me or just don't know what you are saying.

dudu-bobo:

@poster, you did not tell us exactly what he preached that was heretical. If he quoted scripture out of context once, is that enough reason to call him a phoney? (people make mistakes)

To be a phoney implies being False, unreal, ignorant of what you profess, unnatural. It would amount to misguided enthusiasm for the truth if I have to outline every mistake oyakhilome makes but the bottom line is a message misconstrued for spiritual or doctrinal reasons is heresy which is exactly what he preached last sunday to millions of viewers.

Hi Paulipopo,
  I have carefully read your post against the man of God, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. We have all heard and seen people even so called men of God come up with several accusations which didn't stand the test of time. Pastor Chris is not Jesus Christ and has never being taken as Christ.  Look I'm not suprised! The problem is Religion and it's politics that have gripped the minds of people even so called anointed men of God leaving beside the LOVE walk with Jesus and their fellow men including non Christians which is the anchor thing. It doesn't matter what anybody claim to be; Pastor, Holy, Anointed, Prophet, Called or whatever, name it! God can use a stone or anything to demonstrate His Glory and Power.

Very Very important to take note of  the following eternal truth; be you a Bishop, Most Reverend Dr., Prophet, Pastor or whatever remember minus Him you're empty not even your wisdom or your so called holiness will guanrantee your eternity with Jesus if LOVE is not found in you as He sees the heart of everyone.  I love Jesus! His way is different from the religious minds of people. He gave several striking examples of how the Kingdom of God is like. Many did great wonders, signs and miracles in His Name thinking that it was a result of how powerful, holy and prayerful they were but before Jesus it was a suprise package the never even thought of. He said to them I came naked and hungry and you  never cared.

In fact it was amazing and sad seeing that they lost it for lack of the demonstration of our Godly Love not Religion,    Another one was the man Jesus told to sell everything he had and share them to the poor and follow him. Boy, very interesting! At the end we all knew where his heart was fixed and centered on despite his acurate claims to have kept the ten commandments and ordiances of Religion. What a life!!! He missed it!

Paulipopo, if you walk in Love, pray for Pastor Chris! If the words of Jesus are not alive and active in my present days, i bet you i would have dropped it long ago. We are in the days of His Power. If you're a believer, you've the miracle working ability in you now! Any preaching of God's Word without God confirming the integrity of His Word is pure Religion and Man's wisdom which is void of power.

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@hubreality
Spoken like a true christian, keep it up. What you have just posted reflects the spirit of true christianity. However the spirit is missing in most of our churches these days, it is also missing amongst our preachers and least of all believers and that is why today christianity is divided against itself. GOD help us. Christianity that is not demonstrated by true love for God and our fellow human beings is definitely not christianity

@ poster

witout any offense
how are u sure u know ur left from ur right?
If am to take ur case up i would defintely find issues with it just as u finding issues wit sum1 else.
what u consider as left might be sum1 else right.
if u dont like P.chris cos of his hair or message.
take out sum time listen to his message and study the man.
I bet if u dont fall in luv wit him then u truly dont know ur left from ur right.
I'm sure P.chris has been people like u or even worse yet he is growin and moving forward.

@dudu boy
You are wrong. go study your bible
Jesus performed miracles.
signs and wonders to say the least.
everywhere he preached there were huge records of signs and wonders.
even when the purpose of the meeting was just to preach. signs, miracles and wonders were performed
so i wonder where u got tht info from

I wonder why sum men of God would have a meeting withour miracles
its not scriptural

Chei yawa don gas again this time na for fine boy head. You know I always wondered if that guy dey use juju take hold that whole church together, I mean I was passing by a christ embassy fellowship and the place was bubbling as usual and just as I was about to say men this pastor dey move this guys oh I got to the front and behold they were watching atmosphere for miracles.
I cut cap for the guy abeg he too much lol. You can imagine in 100 years time people might not really know the strong hold he has on the youth today, just as we cannot begin to phantom the hold Emperor Constantine had on early christians when the first council of nicea was assembled to determine the divinity of Jesus, IMAGINE!
*hisses very loudly*
Abeg poster no vex but man no need to be rocket scientist to know.

@ poster.

Whats your point?

@bluesteps
The primary duty of believers on earth is to spred the gospel.
The only miracles that are supposed to ALWAYS follow every preaching/teaching of the word of God is the salvation of souls
When people always seek the miraculous, it only shows that they have no faith in God and that they cant believe God without seeing some physical signs

I did not see anywhere where any apostle organised a service of miracles to perform wonders. They went about teaching the word of God and God confirmed the preaching with miracles. More often than not, miracles happened in the normal course of day to day life. Not when they had a miracle services

Don't know the guy well enough to comment.

u need to get a life, ur sittin here on the comupter tellin us pastor is a phoney, well i for one dont belive it, becuse its a complete lie with no truth in it, sure everyones allowed there own opinion, but really come on, what have u ever done to change the world, my guess nothing. think of how many people got there healing living normal lives, think of people who used to beg for afew coins are now millioners, and U ur still here with ur computer complaining, becuse he is a better person, who cares about the world, next time think about it before u say anything.

@ poetikalz
I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand your beef. Sounds to me like you are angry because they tried to set you up with a fat and ugly girl. Will you feel differently about the church if she was a thin and pretty girl?

baby5:

u need to get a life, your sittin here on the comupter tellin us pastor is a phoney, well i for one don't believe it, becuse its a complete lie with no truth in it, sure everyones allowed there own opinion, but really come on, what have u ever done to change the world, my guess nothing. think of how many people got there healing living normal lives, think of people who used to beg for afew coins are now millioners, and You your still here with your computer complaining, becuse he is a better person, who cares about the world, next time think about it before u say anything.

A reasonable comment does the world alot of good, unfortunately your case is that of a kettle calling a pot black.

Your guess is really wrong I have in my little way contributed to development of the world, but as for you I am not so sure.

If my post is a complete lie at least offer a shread of evidence that i am lying. Please indicate that his messages reflect truth and not the sanctimonious displays you are used to.

paulipopo:

If my post is a complete lie at least offer a shread of evidence that i am lying. Please indicate that his messages reflect truth and not the sanctimonious displays you are used to.

As per doctrine I think Christopher is quite sound.

Its the brand that gets me a bit worried.

I want to think you are a believer who is conversant with the word
of GOD. Remember the scripture teaches that 'Do not judge your fellow
man as the same measure that you have used shall also be used to
judge you in return.Let me also draw your attention to what the Apostles
came to tell Our Lord Jesus Christ, 'Master, those people on the other side
who are not part of us cast out demons in your name' and he replied,
'He that is not against us is surely for us'.
As pastor Chris uses the name of GOD, let him be, for the Bible says that not
everyone that calls me would enter the kingdom.
Let GOD be the judge of that.GOD says my thoughts are not your thots,
man sees outwardly but GOD inwardly!!!

layinka55:

I want to think you are a believer who is conversant with the word
of GOD. Remember the scripture teaches that 'Do not judge your fellow
man as the same measure that you have used shall also be used to
judge you in return.Let me also draw your attention to what the Apostles
came to tell Our Lord Jesus Christ, 'Master, those people on the other side
who are not part of us cast out demons in your name' and he replied,
'He that is not against us is surely for us'.
As pastor Chris uses the name of GOD, let him be, for the Bible says that not
everyone that calls me would enter the kingdom.
Let GOD be the judge of that.GOD says my thoughts are not your thoughts,
man sees outwardly but GOD inwardly!!!

But the bible also says that by their fruits you shall know them. I have not condemned the man have I? so the so called measure with which you judge others does not apply to your argument.

@poster
well anyone can express his or her view but we should be careful about what we say,the issue is not whether pastor or not even to ourselves as christian,but what i have realised is that people that attacks are the ones that their christian life is nothing to write home about because even when you are standing you pray for people to come to the knowledge of God,you wont condemn and if i may ask are you born again? and pls which church do you attend pls is not about church i just want to know.

This guy Pastor Chris should be an influential person.
You don't talk about failures, you only talk about success.
Anyway @ poster, only poor frustrated fellows wrongly criticize the rich. Are you loaded?

@poster.

I know what you mean. There's something fishy about the guy. Chris Okotie makes a lot of noise and all that, but he seems harmless. This Oyakhilome , on the other hand, there's something insidious about him. You know what they say about instinctive reactions to a thing; they are more often than not, proven correct. But I'm not sure I agree with posting what you feel about him in a public forum if you've no solid proof of his wrongdoing.
But I agree the guy is dripping with fish.