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| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by JJYOU: 5:07pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
your dream hope is good. as someone said you have to think of security. too many space/ columns anyone can hide at the back. i would like to see what you do with the inside too. seun please help this to front page larez:we must begin to think outside the box. well done brother. i hope the media guys do this justice too |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by topup: 11:40pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
Thanks for your response, I have learnt quite a bit from it, if you are Nigerian, I would just like to just give you a pat on the back for making progress  Architecture is constantly changing and evolving and we must keep pushing it, I myself really admire American design, but I just guess I have an urge to desire to see Nigerian architecture, that we can be proud of. That reflects the environment, the materials, climate etc. . Now, this can be done through making alterations on existing successful houses or the hard way, through research and trial and error. I guess I am craving for something that is truly original, not just original to the location, but original on a global scale. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 6:24am On Jan 18, 2009 |
Sisi Jinx: JJYOU: Thanks Bro. I feel you on the security issue, but my take about resolving the issue of security does not lie in turning homes into prisons. Strong Perimeter security supported with cameras and electronic surveillance systems will be my response. Most people who can afford this lifestyle can afford to pay for the employment of security folks to handle the issue. This in a way forces them to put some of their money into employment.  1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 6:29am On Jan 18, 2009 |
topup: I am definitely a Nigerian and recently embraced that factor strongly. About your craving, Let me know when you need a home designed and your parameters, then I will give you the 'wow' factor that you seek. I am glad that we are in agreement though.  |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Nobody: 6:31am On Jan 18, 2009 |
larez:Does the house have a garage? I don't like it's architecture. But it'd def sell sha |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by staglo(f): 1:11pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
Just remember to add BIG Irons behinde the doors and windows. My Sis is an Architect and works for an Archi firm on the Island, she might be able to give you more insight on what designs clients . In my opinion , they are good designs, but the Naija factor needs to be added in yo ur designs to reach a wider market. Now, if you can design a 3 bed bungalow, making it larger than life and at very resonable cost compared to the average cost of building similar properties then you are on to a great start. If you need more info on my Sis, please send me a private message |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by anonimi: 1:57pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
larez: offtopic: i think you need one of those genuine APC surge arresters 13A extensions also - what brand of generator are you using? - you may need someone to check the genertors AVR (automatic voltage regulator) finally, I'd recommend that you buy mercury stabilizers and mercury/APC UPS. most stabilizers in nigeria re imitation products. as long as you buy a genuine mercury stabilizer, you should be okay, as it comes with an integral over/undervoltage cut off. connect the stabilizer first, then the ups, then the APC surge arrester extension. larez: most nigerians will not agree with you on that for the following reasons: nigerian police have a non existent repsonse time - we are all on our own if the armed robbers come knocking the employess of most of these 'security outfits' are sorry to say graduates who have not been able to get jobs. there is a great risk of them supplying your info to robbers cameras etal run on power , which is epileptic of course, the fortress construction thing is in its own way, futile. armed robbers(known in the US as home invaders) can actually inform you ahead of time that 'they are coming' and that you should 'prepare the ground for them' larez: i don't know how much paper our celebrities have - i think your niche market is CEOs and erm. . . politicians( no harm in getting some our money back. . )1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by ZUBY77(m): 6:56pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
well, i must tell you the likes of bill gates and warren buffets don't live in Nigeria. Any one who have enough money to buy this kind of house in Nigeria will definitely by the house outside Nigeria, atleast for now. Dont count on it selling this art in Nigeria for now. I know we have a lot of rich people there but the issue is whether they feel secured enough to live in this kind of castle if located in Lagos, my advice, design something less castelic |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 7:59pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
ZUBY77: My Man, there are only about 2 homes posted that you may begin to describe as that. Have you been around Ikoyi (Dolphin Estate), Lekki, and Banana Island? Have you seen Lots being advertised for 500 Million Naira plus right here in this forum? I am amazed at the type of money being thrown around in Nigeria. There is a Rolls Royce Phantom being advertised here for 1/2 Million Dollars. In the most Expensive Areas of Atlanta Georgia, you rarely see a lot over 3 Million Dollars. I don't know where it comes from but there is a lotta cash out there, and if they have class and want class, I'll show them how to get CLASS in their livestyle |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Goshen360(m): 9:34pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
The designs are so lovely and nice to behold, i guess they will sell in nigeria. Dont be discouraged by what people say, pls go ahead with your objectives. There is enough market for good and nice concept of ideas such as you have. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 3:10am On Jan 19, 2009 |
oyb: On the APC stuff, thanks for your advice. I get tired of the fake stuff being touted around in Nigeria from China. In the U.S we have strip surge protectors that guarantee the equipment that you connect to them. Meaning they will replace your equipment if their gadget fails. In regards to the fortress talk, I think there are subdivisions like VGC that go the Perimeter security route successfully. If robbers make it in then so be it. Remember, each home can access a series of cameras and can see what is going on anyways right from the gate. I still think Nigerian laws should allow us all to be armed, instead of just the robbers. This will have a great deterrence factor. Finally, I looked back at your rendering of the Gas project. Geeze man, that should consume a whole lot of granite. I'd like us to talk, so please contact me. I am working on pushing a granite mine. Holla at a Brotha. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 3:15am On Jan 19, 2009 |
goshen360: Thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate it. Cheers. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by JazzFreak(m): 11:59am On Jan 19, 2009 |
Sincerely Larez, am astound at the brilliance displayed. I think the designs will fly with our Executives & Legislators in various houses of assembly. First, they are widely travelled. Two, they've have Wish you luck. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Elgaxton(m): 12:33pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
They 'll all sell in Nigeria, just show the designs to the right people, pple here like somtn different u know |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Egie: 2:38pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
Nice, Nice, ! Will cost a fortune though to develop such structures in the areas mentioned when you consider the price of land in these areas. This in turn will translate directly to the cost of the finished product. Prices of the average structure of these types in Lekki will start from N250m, and in Ikoyi from N500m. The ones with plenty of grounds in Ikoyi will be in the vicinity of N1b. Take a look at property magazines and you'll understand what I'm talking about. I'm a builder / civil engineer, and I speak to you from practical experience. A 4 or 5 bedroom detached house built on 500 sq.m in Lekki will attract about N150m and will sell faster. Your designs will however need to be adapted to suit our climate - no fireplace needed here! Cheers! |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by fadconsult(m): 4:44pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
my guy, why u dey try do advert 4 nairaland is against Nigerian Institue Architect code of conduct,be warned |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Seun(m): 4:50pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
No wonder the architects are fading into obscurity. How can you run any business without advertising? 1 Like |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by MrCrackles(m): 4:51pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
Seun: Chei! |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 5:22pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
fadconsult: Here comes bad belle. I was wondering when I was going to see that. Please identify the advert. In anycase, I am neither a part of nor I am currently interested in your Institute or their rules. My focus in Nigeria is in building/developing. I am sure that you will gladly take my drawings and get all the approvals necessary for me to build. I'll rather stay out of your politics. Abi you no go take contract if I give you? Oh, by the way, even while I am in Nigeria, I still design projects for my clients in the USA |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Pennywise(m): 6:41pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
American houses I have noticed are uniquely different for their obsession with basement and attics.Not a bad idea to introduce same to Nigerian built houses.Why are our architects not thinking along that line. B.T.W truly great designs you have there larez |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 7:38pm On Jan 19, 2009 |
Pennywise: You have brought up a very interesting point, and I will try my best to justify the reasoning. For the case of Lagos, the land is pretty much flat. Putting a basement on such land will be forcing it and not working with it's natural flow. A basement Lot typically has to be a sloping one, which then gets cut into and the basement built up to receive the First Floor (Ground floor in Nigeria). In the case of Abuja and Calabar, where the terrain slopes in many areas, it is understandable to avoid basements in low-cost housing. But I find it difficult to justify not putting a basement and taking advantage of the usable space. Some may try to justify this issue with the extra cost that will be incurred in strengthening the foundation and walls that will carry the first floor. Now, of course there are some other issues such as properly draining the footings and walls. Waterproofing will also be needed for damp-proofing the retaining walls. But this is relatively simple technology that has not been adapted and accepted in Nigeria. I personally believe that it will be worth the space gained, and in-fact will reduce the cooling costs of the home. These are questions that we should be asking, and I am glad that you have asked. I will like to hear others on this issue as well. Another issue that surprises me is why we still use the old soak-away type of sewers that require sewage trucks pumping them out. I can understand in Lagos where the water table is low, and the sandy soils will not work for percolation. But in areas like Calabar, I am sure that Septic fields are possible. A reason why they may not be probable will be because of the sizes of the Lots. Why seem to adhere strictly to this idea of plots which are basically 60'X100". This will not allow enough space for a septic field behind the house, because it requires so much linear footage of discharge lines per bathrooms or expected usage. But there are systems such as the 'Infiltrator' and 'Sand filter' that require a lot less footage (Approximately 1/3 of the standard requirement). these systems are sealed and hardly require servicing. However, Sanitary Napkins or Diapers cannot be flushed down toilets in these systems. This will lead to blockage. Let's start asking why and why not? P.S. I am including a transparency of one of my designs to show how we wood frame homes in most parts of the USA rather than concrete masonry unit (CMUs), which we use in tropical areas such as South Florida. Our process is somewhat different as well because we have different types of CMUs that allows us to form beams and headers in the stacks.
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| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by Pennywise(m): 12:07pm On Jan 20, 2009 |
I am simply excited with responses from Larez and other archis on this thread which is becoming sth of a resource material on building designs. May I advise that the thread title be changed to a more conservative 'Contemporary architectural designs relevant to Nigeria'. Not long ago I tried to gain inspiration by looking at building designs (duplices) on the net. Most of the ones I saw (predominantly US realty) just didnt cut it for me.Other archis should not be bashful about showcasing their own ideas on this thread and forum. Peeps who think it would amount to dragging architecture in the mud should wake up. Doctors started (or at least made famous) this no advert policy. But right now you have fertility shop pamphlets every where soliciting IVF. The proffessional body can do well to define what constitutes an advertisement. A lot of these bodies just have a phrase in their constitution that is open to all manners of interpretation. Sharing ideas in a public forum like this, is in no way akin to taking out a slot on radio, TV or the print media.If architects truly want to regulate their practice they can start by ensuring that members remain faithful to their profession and not become building contractors which most of them are in Nigeria. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 2:18pm On Jan 20, 2009 |
Pennywise: Your idea is fantastic. may I suggest that you make it more about 'Building Design and Technologies'. This way we can discuss and write articles about better and more efficient systems Cheers. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by nzeaji(m): 5:31pm On Jan 20, 2009 |
COOL!!!! VEEEERY TIGHT, BUT I HOPE YOU'LL NOT BE PUTTING CHIMNEYS.  |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by seun001(m): 5:49pm On Jan 20, 2009 |
am sure the poster will not come cheap cos he is one hell of a name dropper.but fantastic designs mehn.had already decided julius berger will do for a dream house of my own but i see i need to research more.fantastic and out of this world designs.  |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 7:45pm On Jan 20, 2009 |
seun001: I don't really blame you for your choice of Julius Berger. They are among a very limited few that can put up a decent structure and finishes. But watchout for the team that my group will put together. We should give them a run for their money. You may wish you jumped in early. Thanks for the compliments though. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 7:49pm On Jan 20, 2009 |
nzeaji: Thanks, And no there won't be chimneys, but an Astronomy dome might not be a bad idea. |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by spark411(m): 9:05am On Jan 21, 2009 |
Hey, I have carefully reviewed all your postings and I must say that I am impressed with the level of detail and professionalism that you exhibit when dealing with inquiries. I am also keenly interested in the possibility of investing in real estate endeavors in Nigeria. I am affiliated with a contractor in Nigeria that is also keenly looking for U.S architectural expertise in building Mass Community Homes for the Government. If you are interested we can talk more offline. [url][/url]endefo@gmail.com |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by vodka(f): 10:43am On Jan 21, 2009 |
i think they houses are very wow. yes possible. higher fences and probly in an estate or something also u wanna look at the island specifically lekki if you get some govt to sponser it fine if not then some individuals have the money to finance this that julius berger will build it yes but they are not the only i thin you shd introduce this to the market fast man all the best |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by larez(m): 12:02pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
spark411: Thanks, and your compliments are appreciated. I have done extensive research on more efficient ways for well built mass housing. South Africa seems more progressive in finding solutions to address mass housing in tropical Africa. I am willing to take a look at possibilities. The research has been done and this can be mobilized quickly and efficiently. My email is on the way. Cheers. seun001: Seun, Holla back at a Brotha, and quit being scared of costs (Albeit from name droppings) |
| Re: Will These Home Designs Sell In Nigeria, And Where? by NegroNtns(m): 6:38pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
To all the others who passed comments on this thread, i thank you very much for your encouragement. My background includes designs for many notables in the U.S. As a matter of fact, the home that Lisa (Left-eye) Lopez burnt down was my design that Andre Rison bought. Funny thing was that they were hanging out with me on that fateful night before they got into an argument after I left them at Club 112. A few others that I have designed for include L.A. Reid (president Sony records), Donnell Jones, Babyface, One of the Criss-cross guys, and many other Football and Basket ball stars. (A whole lot of them). I am currently very interested in doing Marine communities in Nigeria such as in the attached pictures. My dream home is the fourth attached one. Thanks for your contributions and keep them coming. In your dreams. I saw your first set of pictures on page 1 and wanted to ask if you lived in Atlanta but choosed to restrain my comments and wait for you to land on the wrong foot. You are posting KB Homes and Southland designs as your origination, I hope you are licensed to use them. There was one other person with them (Andre & Lopes) that night. You said they were hanging out with you that night, name that other individual if you are truthful. Where was the house located and where did you locate the house you built for Kenny Edmonds? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If as you led people to believe and these designs are your originations then you should be able to create a template with "Nigerian Architectural stamp". Can you not? |
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