@noetic, have u not found the answer from Olabowale, Babs, Lagosboy and co,anyway if u say is false, then would u kindly answer to my question , why the hausa/arabic call GOD ALLAH,if he's not the ALLAH of the bible,also to let u know nothing whatsoever will make me leave ISLAM,will always remain a MUSLIM,till JESUS comes.

Is Mohammed the last prophet from the Biblical God ?

answer: Is he a prophet from God talk less of the last prophet ?
who dash monkey banana?

it's like asking if osisi one of the daughters of allah? (al uzat and them other 2 wooden babes)

Is Mohammed the last prophet from the Biblical God ?

answer: Is he a prophet from God talk less of the last prophet ?
who dash monkey banana?

He could not be a prophet to you coz you don't belief in him.

it's like asking if osisi one of the daughters of allah? (al uzat and them other 2 wooden babes)

Allah does not have children and will not have one.

@littleleb
He could not be a prophet to you coz you don't belief in him.

and do you really believe in JESUS?

Abdullah means slave of God, ofcuz he was an idolater meaning by then referin to slave of god i.e d idol

Afta d emergence of islam, d idol worshippers realized their is only 1 God which is Allah, hence he bcame slave of ALLAH

So you are trying to say,a name known or used for a diety or god can be ascribed to GOD, since abdullahi was a slave, them islam should have started before muhammad. or what point are you trying to prove.

Pre Islam:Abdullah slave of god (idol), after realizing d true God when Islam came it became slave of Almighty GOD

Note: we aren't saying Abdullah was a muslim, laa, what we re saying is 'd meaning of Abdullah changed from pagan view

Just like that, a pagan god became a true God, so pre-islam, he was an Idol, and post-Islam a God, good, they are finally revieling the truth, a pagan god became God just in a twinkle of an eye. he became the almighty just as muhammad proclaimed him so. hmmmmmmm, good you are telling the truth.

I must confess its like this is my first time on this thread and the insults and abuses on the first 3 pages is just unfortunate to be in a religous thread. My observation has been religious bias kills peoples intellect and intelligence.

Otherwise how on earth would we be arguing over the name of God. Before Christianity came to Yoruba land and the religion was paganism, Eledumare was reserved for God, After Christianity God is still called Eledumare without any misunderstanding of who they were referring to.

There is a misconception here and I will try to explain perhaps some bros or sis might have explained it before. The pagan arabs in Arabia believed in Allah (God) they did believe in him but the reasons they were called pagans was that they worshipped him through lesser deities e. Lat, Uzza, alah and other idols. These was they same situation in Yoruba land the yorubas believed in the paramount supreme being of Eledumare but worshipped him through shango, Orunmilla, osun and co. My evidence in Q39 v 3 “ …those who take protectors besides Him say “ we worship them (idols) only that they may bring us near to Allah”. Verily Allah will judge between them concerning what they differ…”

Another verse is Q29 v 61 And if you were to ask them ; “who created the heavens and the earth and subjected the moon ?” They will sure reply “Allah”. How then are they deviating (as pagans and disbelievers).

The normal and natural thinking of human inclines to the acknowledgement of a supreme being somewhere but what differentiates us is the concept of worship of this true Supreme Being.

The pagans of makkah weren’t pagans because they did not believe in Allah; they did believe and they weren’t atheist . They were pagans because they did not reject the false idols and false systems.

Allah says in the quran 2 v256  “ La ikraha fi deen…………, wa mon yakfuru bi taghut wa yuminu billah…”

“There is no cumplusion in religion ………………, whoever rejects the taghut(idols , false systems etc) and believes in Allah…, ” The condition is to first reject the idols then believe in Allah which the pagans did not comply hence them being disbelievers.

The notion that Allah muslims call is the Allah the pagans called when the bear Abdullah is correct because the pagans believed the creation of the earth was by Allah and they accepted him but worshiped him thru idols and that is the kufr.

The allegation of the Christians here concerning this name is baseless as I have explained it above and gave an example of Christianity calling God eledumare in Yoruba land and Eledumare predates Christianity in Yoruba land. This issue of language and name is so trivial and that is why I said religious bias kill peoples intellect and intelligence.

And God knows best

[b]I hate this thread with passion[/b]Babs(Muslim) vs David and co(xtians).I just marvel at the way Nigerians take religion as if its a Do or Die affair.The west that introduced the xtainity religion to us dont even go to church.Some white guys in my place of work made the same comment about Nigerian they v worked with(xtians anyway),that they pretend a lot and they are too religious,and it doesnt stop us from cheating and commiting all sort of attrocities.
@ David
I am really dissapointed in you cos u dnt even know what u are worshiping,i am not here to argue but to beg u to make more research and go out(Travel),wen you travel and meet people you will really learn a lot and u discover that there are many places where they v not even heard xtianity b4 and places where Islam has not touched.ARE THEY ENTERING HELL FIRE?
I have been to so many countries and this kind of Views about other religions make me hate Nigeria and Nigerians.
I guess this thread should be removed cos it make me Sick.

todak:

@littleleb
He could not be a prophet to you coz you don't belief in him.

and do you really believe in JESUS?

As a Muslim, I really belief in Jesus as servant and prophet of God. Islam gives so much respect for Jesus and his mother. Even in the Quran, there is a chapter named after his mother; Maryam.

littleb:

As a Muslim, I really belief in Jesus as servant and prophet of God. Islam gives so much respect for Jesus and his mother. Even in the Quran, there is a chapter named after his mother; Maryam.

these guys can be so laughable in their simplistic stupidity.

May Allah guide u idiot amin, selfish interest of yours !

Abuzola:

May Allah guide u idiot amin, selfish interest of yours !

Selfish? About what? Because we wont share Jesus "the prophet" with you?

don't confuse urself, who is jesus ? son of god or prophet or god ? i bet u can't answer this

Abuzola:

don't confuse urself, who is jesus ? son of god or prophet or god ? i bet u can't answer this

Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

why can i not answer the question? Besides the one or two clearly plagiarized comments on Jesus in the quran . . . do you know HIM?

Davidlyan, the best thing is for you to accept ISLAM before its too late,i know u hate this but its gospel truth,As Salam Alekum as jesus said.

Incredible, mary therefore is the wife of god ?

Abuzola:

Incredible, mary therefore is the wife of god ?

I'm not sure you understood the verse at all. Read it again.

It says jesus is d son of god, so i ask and mary is the wife of god to make a couple bear a child

I was right ! i bet u couldn't answer it. hurray

Abuzola:

It says jesus is d son of god, so i ask and mary is the wife of god to make a couple bear a child

Very stupid question . . .

The bible also says i am a son of God . . . was my mother married to God?
the bible repeatedly refers to Christ as the "son of David" . . . was David (who died 2000yrs before Christ was born) also His biological father?

The bible uses symbols that you dont understand . . . better not to make a fool of yourself like your imaams and mohammad ultimately did.

Abuzola:

I was right ! i bet u couldn't answer it. hurray

I'm at work . . . you obviously dont expect me to drop all i'm doing to respond to an islamobot do you?

@Davidylan

Selfish? About what? Because we wont share Jesus "the prophet" with you?

Was Jesus a christian?

Did he bring any religion?

What faith did he practice?

Thank God ! now u admit he is a son of god verbally and not genuinely, then u must be beating about the bush

Simple question but hard to answer, was he a prophet or a god or son of god and u said he was a son verbally, wow

'For GOD so luv the world that he gave his only begotten son , ' so which son is that if there are many sons of god

So the unexplainable aspects of the Bible are now regarded as, 'symbols you don't understand'.

where did Jesus Christ say he was going to inspire those who wrote the Bible to write symbols people wouldn't understand?

fellis:

So the unexplainable aspects of the Bible are now regarded as, 'symbols you don't understand'.

where did Jesus Christ say he was going to inspire those who wrote the Bible to write symbols people wouldn't understand?

They are not unexplainable . . . however as a muslim you are already programmed NEVER to understand them. That is the typical muslim mindset. I explained quite clearly with TWO analogies . . . that the bible says "son of . . ." does not translate to being a literal biological son of the person.

One example - Christ is also refered to as "son of man" in the bible . . . which man? Are all men His biological fathers? The bible calls Christ the "son of David" . . . but David died 2000 yrs before Christ was born so how could David have been his biological father. Christians are refered to in the bible as "sons of God" . . . are we biologically His children? Did God marry our mothers?

The Pharisees refered to the old prophets as "our fathers" . . . was Abraham the biological father to the pharisees?

That is the explanation . . . when Christ is called the "Son of the Living God" Peter was not saying He was the biological Son of God. Those are pretty easy to understand symbolisms that the Jews used in those days.

Of course you all understand the above usage but strangely CAN'T understand the symbolism in "Son of God"?

The problem in the bible is not that you cant understand . . . the average christian understands that Christ is not the husband to Mary and impregnated her to bring forth Christ. That "confusion" only reigns in the camp of the typical islamobot. Afterall how else can he rubbish christianity if he doesnt use such red herrings?

babs787:

@Davidylan


Was Jesus a christian?

Did he bring any religion?

What faith did he practice?

How many times have you asked these EXACT SAME QUESTIONS and been given answers?

Abuzola:

Thank God ! now u admit he is a son of god verbally and not genuinely, then u must be beating about the bush

In the context it was used. But of course i dont expect you to understand it . . . you desperately dont wish to.

Abuzola:

Simple question but hard to answer, was he a prophet or a god or son of god and u said he was a son verbally, wow

Just the same way He is also the "Son of David" even though David died 2000yrs before He was born. But of course i dont expect you to understand.

Abuzola:

'For GOD so luv the world that he gave his only begotten son , ' so which son is that if there are many sons of god

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Is God our biological earthly Father?

fools.