In the Bible 2 Corinthians 6:14 says:


"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?"   (KJV)


"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"  (NIV)


"Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness?"   (LB)


uneven yoked covers areas of marriage and business and friendships.


- Hence a christian who goes into business partnership with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him.
- Hence a christian who goes into a friendship with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him.
- Hence a christian who goes into a marriage with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him.

Tudór:

If a christian should wan't to adhere strictly to the archaic instructions in the bible, he'd definately end up living under a rock.
In other words, the bible is outdated and isn't releavant in the 21st century.

Tudór:

If a christian should wan't to adhere strictly to the archaic instructions in the bible, he'd definately end up living under a rock.
In other words, the bible is outdated and isn't releavant in the 21st century.

oyb:


the above came from a debate on a muslim marrying a christian

attached is an interpretation by no2atheism

based on the above, by my own interpretation, the faith of christians across the world is in serious danger

how can a christian be an employee of a company run/founded by atheists/muslims - examples abound

so , how does one reconcile the mandate "Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord" with living in the modern world ?

Now the above is me associating with the world. If I were to say I wanted to marry or start a business with etc one of my non-christian friends - that would be 'yoking' myself to them - this is what the bible forbids.

I treat my co-workers with respect and compassion, we talk and have lunch and collab on projects together. My previous boss is gay - we still call each other every now and then just to say hi. Infact he was instrumental in helping reach where I am today.

"Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness?

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?"   (KJV)


"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"  (NIV)


"Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness?"   (LB)

- Hence a christian who goes into business partnership with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him.
- Hence a christian who goes into a friendship with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him.
- Hence a christian who goes into a marriage with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him

Its easy. As easy as the difference between the words "YOKED" and "ASSOCIATE". I love my friends who are not christian, I occasionally spend time with them, I treat my co-workers with respect and compassion, we talk and have lunch and collab on projects together. My previous boss is gay - we still call each other every now and then just to say hi. Infact he was instrumental in helping reach where I am today.

oyb:

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (KJV)


"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (NIV)


"Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness?" (LB)

three different translations , wonder why christians are taking chances on the correct interpretation?

oyb:

three different translations , wonder why christians are taking chances on the correct interpretation?

oyb:

even here you lot are contradicting yourselves as usual

this is what no2atheism said

and this is what jesoul said

This passage gives utterance to a Divine exhortation for those belonging to Christ to hold aloof from[b] all intimate associations with the Ungodly[/b]. It expressly forbids them entering into alliances with the unconverted. It definitely prohibits the children of God walking arm-in-arm with worldlings. It is an admonition applying to every phase and department of our lives—religious, domestic social, commercial. And never, perhaps, was there a time when it more needed pressing on Christians than now. The days in which we are living are marked by the spirit of compromise. On every side we behold unholy mixtures, ungodly alliances, unequal yokes. Many professing Christians appear to be trying how near to the world they may walk and yet go to Heaven.

"For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?" How explicit and emphatic are the terms used there! No excuse whatever is there for failing to understand the terms of this exhortation, and the reason with which it is supported. "Fellowship, communion, concord, part, agreement" are so plain they require no interpreter. All unions, alliances, partnerships, entanglements, with unbelievers are expressly forbidden to the Christian. It is impossible to find within the whole range of Holy Scripture plainer language on any subject than we have here. "Righteousness, unrighteousness; light, darkness; Christ, Belial"—what have they in common? What bond is there between them?

Because . . . those who interpreted the bible are not infallible robots. Each man interpretes as he sees fit. The beauty of the bible is in one striking fact - in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses let a matter be established. Confused about whether 2 Cor 6:14 expressly commanded the christian NOT to work in a company that has an atheist boss?

oyb:

oh my gawd -

enter the contradictions

i posted this, but the spambot hit it , you can check my profile or just go here and see what CHRISTIANS sorry 'christians' have to say

http://thirdmill.org/newfiles/aw_pink/aw_pink.Separation.html

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers; for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? (2 Cor. 6:14-18)

that is the most relevant excerpt

oyb:

i no fit talk

do you realise what you are saying

Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

even admonishes us to PRAY for KINGS and those in authority over us! It didnt say oh just pray for your christian masters and ignore the rest.

Each man interpretes as he sees fit.

This passage gives utterance to a Divine exhortation for those belonging to Christ to hold aloof from all intimate associations with the Ungodly. It expressly forbids them entering into alliances with the unconverted. It definitely prohibits the children of God walking arm-in-arm with worldlings. It is an admonition applying to every phase and department of our lives—religious, domestic social, commercial. And never, perhaps, was there a time when it more needed pressing on Christians than now. The days in which we are living are marked by the spirit of compromise. On every side we behold unholy mixtures, ungodly alliances, unequal yokes. Many professing Christians appear to be trying how near to the world they may walk and yet go to Heaven.

oyb:

offtopic -

good to know that the germans who gassed the jews were fearing god when they followed instruction to the letter

oyb:

offtopic -

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oyb:

oh my gawd - oya, will you pray for yaradua

do you see how ridiculous you sound in your efforts

would you have prayed for herod? or pharoah? or hitler? or the russian government? if you were working in the middle east, would you pray for king fahd?

oyb:

davidylan, please tell me truthfully, did you ever pray for any of those nasty muslim rulers who you are always blaming for the state of nigeria?

oyb:

stop these duplicituos arguments

this is what you said:

so don't give me any 'translation' B.S.

going by this all those freaks the Aryans, the KKK and all those other horrors are perfectly in order, since [b]they interprete as they see [/b]fit.
you're the one who said it

all hail, davidylan, the world's only true christian. all who have views different from his anointed views are er 'christians'

oyb:

davidylan and confusion -

I deliberately enlarged those portions just in-case the OP was blind. We are to obey our masters AS UNTO THE LORD. If your master told you to kill someone which is definitely NOT UNTO THE LORD . . . you have the option of quitting.


i will just take your simple example -

is execution via gas chamber unto the lord?

is attacking a sovereign nation unto the lord?

is a sniper unto the lord?

oyb:

since they all involve killing, which according to you is not unto the lord

oyb:

since conventional business practices did not exist then, all this servant master business is bull. you do realise that servant really means slave, don't you? so all your master servant is moot.

oyb:

we are not talking about people who happen to be other's property. we are talking about employees.

oyb:

read the entire link, i only posted two excerpts because the spam bot deleted the rest

i know thousands of churches in nigeria and here who devote tremendous time to praying for government leaders

That again is more dishonest rubbish . . . i made that statement in reaction to[b] your CONSTANT and DELIBERATELY CONFUSIONIST use of 3 translations of the bible at once[/b]. Your aim being to show that neither one agreed in the wordings used.

This was why i said - each translation of the bible is different depending on the era the translation was done and those who did the translating.

Which was why i gave a pertinent example, if i were to do my own translation of the bible now . . . i wouldnt use KJV style of english, would that make the bible a fraud then?

i'm not interested in reading what you brainless trolls just copy and paste from wherever. I would rather read the bible.

so because KJV used the term "servants" you just assumed it was talking about paid servants? Are you not a servant to he who hires you?

oyb:

you did not say, each man translates as he see fit, you said each man interprets as he sees fit

s[b]o what you're really saying is that the bible said a different thing in each era, and that if you translated it, it would say yet something else[/b]  

oyb:

lets follow the bastard child of the incestuous diety in his game

go and read - i referenced it when i discussed how jesus condoned slavery. the word servant/maid is simply used to replace/ polish up slave


see the hypocrite who has no problem with copying and pasting thighing - ps which version

are you really trying to equate 'being a servant' then to working now?

perhaps its because you are in grad school. they do say the grad students are slaves of professors.

there is no way you can refer to an employee, who has health benefits, who is part of a union, who is a skilled worker as a servant.

stop being stupid. there is no way you can reconcile servants from that time with workers today.

oyb:

are you really trying to equate 'being a servant' then to working now?

perhaps its because you are in grad school. they do say the grad students are slaves of professors.

there is no way you can refer to an employee, who has health benefits, who is part of a union, who is a skilled worker as a servant.

stop being stupid. there is no way you can reconcile servants from that time with workers today.

What dishonest and false rubbish. There were no markets then? No vineyards that hired workers? Was the prodigal son not hired to look after a pig farm? Was Paul of Tarsus not a tent maker? Was Matthew not a tax collector? From whom was he collecting taxes? Slaves only?

You read stuff from these delusional folks and you just want to shake your head in wonder.

so because KJV used the term "servants" you just assumed it was talking about paid servants? Are you not a servant to he who hires you?

Luke 15:11-32 (New International Version)

The Parable of the Lost Son
11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.

13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.[a]'

22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'

28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'

31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "

Footnotes:

1. Luke 15:21 Some early manuscripts son. Make me like one of your hired men.

davidylan:

you understand my point very clearly but you pretend not to because its your only leg to stand on at the moment.

I said quite CLEARLY - Which was why i gave a pertinent example, if i were to do my own translation of the bible now . . . i wouldnt use KJV style of english, would that make the bible a fraud then?

what has "style of english" got to do with the central message of the bible?  

Do these folks have to lie so much for allah?

 
New International Version (©1984)
"I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"I know that You can do all things, And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"I know that you can do everything and that your plans are unstoppable.

King James Bible
I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.

American King James Version
I know that you can do every thing, and that no thought can be withheld from you.

American Standard Version
I know that thou canst do all things, And that no purpose of thine can be restrained.

Bible in Basic English
I see that you are able to do every thing, and to give effect to all your designs.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I know that thou canst do all things, and no thought is hid from thee.

Darby Bible Translation
I know that thou canst do everything, and that thou canst be hindered in no thought of thine.

English Revised Version
I know that thou canst do all things, and that no purpose of thine can be restrained.

Webster's Bible Translation
I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withheld from thee.

World English Bible
"I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be restrained.

Young's Literal Translation
Thou hast known that for all things Thou art able, And not withheld from Thee is any device:

oyb:

my my my

Christians are wonderful

davidylan and confusion


i cannot see where the guy is referred to as a servant - perhaps you can help me out?

oyb:

my my my

Christians are wonderful

davidylan and confusion


i cannot see where the guy is referred to as a servant - perhaps you can help me out?

GEW:

you know he knows what you are talking about. that argumentative spirit that troubles most mole people is what you see at work hre.  there is that satanic veil covering all thier eyes that wont let them see truth let alone accept.

look at Job 42:2 for instance in difference translation.  notice how it change the word withholden  to  unstoppable, thwarted, restrained, hindered or withheld. it is one word  that means same thing.  oyb hope you get it?

GEW:

  you can never understand the bible becos you obviously dont have the Spirit of Christ. [size=14pt]to you the letters of the bibl are just words that is why it is confusing you[/size], what is confusing you now is a small matter wait till you get to the weightier matters of scriptures.

may God have mercy on you and remove that religious scale in your eyes in Jesus Christ name. may He give you an understanding heart to know the love of Christ for you and your kind.